Radeon 8500 overclocking results!!!

[Pinky]

Starting to have this friendly debate with a member about whether certain types of the Radeon 8500 are overclocking higher than others...

Please post the following info:

Manufacturer (ATI, Powercolor, etc if known)

Default core/memory
Overclocked core/memory

3dmark2001 at default
3dMark2001 overclocked

**If you're using any mods/tweaks (including any voltage increases) to the card's hardware, please note that too...**

Thanks! This will be added to our forum's database for future reference just by replying here ;)

[o770]

is it any relevant if the cards not manufactered by ati?

[Pinky]

Originally posted by oTTO
is it any relevant if the cards not manufactered by ati?

Good point, I'll add that to the requirements. Thanks otto :)

[Maximus Nickus]

I doubt it matters just make sure you mention it.

[Silversinksam]

Pinky, Maybe you will find this thread interesting:

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51887



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[Pinky]

Originally posted by Silversinksam
Pinky, Maybe you will find this thread interesting:

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51887

yeah, some of that is useful, but this was more to get the default 230 or 250 or 275 speeds and how how each one typically overclocks... so far zero posts with results :(

[Silversinksam]

this was more to get the default 230 or 250 or 275 speeds and how how each one typically overclocks... so far zero posts with results

Theres at least a bakers dozen that have the questions you seek:)

Ill have to start a new database and get you the default info.....but anything for you Pinky


OEM-Walter
4ns Hynix
Bios version: 1.009
Part number: 113-85704-103
Bios date: 2001/10/4


Retail -Zman
285/275
Bios version is - 1.009
Bios Part Number - 113-85701-102
Bios Date- 2001/09/19


OEM -Irreligious(with Bios Flash)
275/275
Bios version is - 1.009
Bios Part Number - 113-85701-102
Bios Date- 2001/09/19


Retail -JFalcon
285/285 (stock cooling)
Bios version is - 1.009
Bios Part Number - 113-85701-102
Bios Date- 2001/09/19


Retail -MaxKool
310/310
Bios version: 1.09
Bios Part # : 113-85701-102
Bios Date: 2001/09/19


Retail -pxc
300/300
BIOS Version 1.009
BIOS Part Number 113-85701-102
BIOS Date 2001/09/19



Retail -Tinker-box
Bios Version 1.009
Bios Part Number 113-85701-102
Bios Date 2001/09/19



OEM - Mav
270/263
ASIC-Typ R200
ASIC ID 514c
BIOS 1.009
NR. 114-85704-103
Date 2001/10/04


Retail -Skrill
305/285
Bios Version: 1.009
Bios Part #: 113-85701-102
Bios Date: 2001/09/19



Retail card-leanderj
290/297
Bios Version: 1.009
Bios Part #: 113-85702-102
Bios Date: 2001/09/19


Retail - euan
Bios V: 1.009
Bios Part #: 113-85702-102
Date:2001/09/19


OEM - xgodxicex
ASIC Type - R200
ASIC ID - 514c
250/250 (default)
BIOS Version - 1.009
BIOS Part Number - 113-85703-103
BIOS Date - 2001/10/04


retail -Orgy
292/292
Bios Version: 1.009
Bios Part #: 113-85701-102
Bios Date: 2001/09/19


Retail 8500 -Homer Simpson
305/305
Bios version: 1.009
Bios part number: 113-85702-102
Bios date: 2001/09/19


Retail Radeon 8500 -Pressure
Bios version: 1.009
Bios part number: 113-85702-102
Bios date: 2001/09/19


Mine (OEM )-Silversink
310/300
The Bios version is 1.009
Bios Part Number 113-85703-103
Bios Date 2001/10/04:p
249.5/249.5 3.6ns Default

[Pinky]

OK, need to clarify a bit, and yes you are being very helpful!! Are the OEMs 230 or 250 models... suspect there may be overall performance and overlcocking differences between the 2...

[Silversinksam]

I wrote This (http://www.overclockers.com/tips757/) for you Pinky, and you know why?

Its cause the world love's Pinky's Linkys (http://www.aoafiles.com/)

:burn:



PS I wrote this in another thread-

"The 8500 OEM card is made by 20+ OEM manufactures and to the best of my knowledge come in these speeds:

220/220 4ns mem
230/230 4ns
249.5/249.5 4ns
249.5/249.5 3.6ns
230/250 with some with 4ns some with 3.6ns

Some boards have crippled resistors for the GPU and VMem while other OEM's are simply Retail 8500's with an Oem bios."


:)

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[Pinky]

Sam you ARE the best, that explained eveything :)

[TranceBear]

Manufacturer=ATI OEM
Default core/memory=250/250
Overclocked core/memory=285/285

3dmark2001 at default=6920
3dMark2001 overclocked=7451

Memory=3.6n

These are with my 1 ghz Athlon

[TranceBear]

Manufacturer=ATI OEM
Default core/memory=250/250
Overclocked core/memory=285/285

3dmark2001 at default=7725
3dMark2001 overclocked=9025

Memory=3.6n

These are with my XP2000+ Athlon

[TranceBear]

No mods of any kind as of yet on both scores.

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by TranceBear
No mods of any kind as of yet on both scores.

Trancebear,

Just curious about if your Core and Memory get 'Hot' or do they stay relativly warm like mine under load.

...Reason I ask is that some 8500's get really hot and some don't/ I'm working on this riddle.


ps Pinky, my pleasure bro.

[ken257]

I think it would also be very usefull to collect info on what the memory speed is on the OEM cards. The last 2 numbers on the memory chips are the speed. Retail cards like my 8500 end en 36 so the memory is 3.6
If we can find what OEM cards have the best memory that could help in what to buy.

Here the info on my Retail 8500
Bios version is: 7.004
Bios Part Number: 113-85701-103
Bios Date: 2001/11/07
275/275 factory default, haven't OCed it yet.
Getting around 7500 in 3DMark 2001 with a KT7A-R
1.3TBird @ 1.5gig 150X10
384 meg Mushkin rev3 All memory settings at Max

[miarhpe]

Hi, I bought a "refurbished" card from newegg for $139, here is the info I can contribute.

Made by ATI in China, 3.6 hynix ram
default- 230/230 3dmark2001 7456

overclocked using Powerstrip, no mods- 250/250 3dmark- 7816 (picking up some artifacts) I did not try to up the core more at that time although I'm sure I could have.

overclocked after voltage mod 306/249 3dmark-8300-8400?(not really sure as I had my cpu overclocked on that test also, my actual score was 8477).

after voltage and bios flash 310/297 3dmark 8734

voltage increased using pencil as per instructions at http://www.xcl-clan.com/articles.php3?id=29 Here are my voltage measurements: before 1.62core 3.49mem, after 1.78core and 3.67memory.

After the voltage mod, I still could not get the memory over 250, so, because I had read somewhere of someone with the same problem fixing it with a bios flash,I decided to risk it. I used the flash program from the same site as the article above, and flashed my bios to Hoek's "improved retail 275/275" bios.

It worked!!! Now, like the guy whose post I had read also reported, i can not run it at slower than 250 memory speeds without display problems. I guess the bios somehow controls the memory speed?

Sorry Silversinksam, I forgot to collect my original bios info, but here is my new.
bios version 1.009
part #113-85701-102
date 9/19/01

Oh yes, I'm running an athlon xp1600+ stock on soyo Dragon+ with 256megs pc2100

[miarhpe]

Also forgot to mention, I only have stock cooling, I'm running Windows XP Pro Corp. using the Alternate Driver - 6.13.10.3286 from ATI, I have not taken the time yet to try other drivers, any tips?