Need to chill...

[its4i9]

I got a 1.4 tbird running @1.2 right now because of the excessive amount of heat in my machine,and i cant figure out how to get rid of it...
In my VIA hardware monitor the CPU temp @ idle reads 53c,
and gets well over 60c on a full load. (and this is @1.2ghz)And I am almost certain that my heatsink is seated properly-
I have an intake fan at the bottom of my case(in a pci slot)and a fan blowing out at the top of my case(power supply). I have reaplied heatsink compound(the sh***y radioshack brand) and tried rearanging fans for better circulation, but no luck. I am thinking about purchising another fan to get more circulation in my case, but need something thats quiet because of the noise problem im having already...
*the temp of my system @ 1.2ghz is 44c. (ussually wont go above 50c)
In addition to purchasing another case fan, i am thinking about getting some high quality thermal grease, was wondering if any1 had any good ideas or more suggestions...

thks:beer:

[Bender]

What kind of heatsink and fan do you have? If your looking for some high quality thermal paste try Arctic Silver 3.

[Voodoo Rufus]

Panaflo L1A fans are quiet and move a good amount of air.

Those in socket themistors aren't very accurate for temp readings.

[flounder43]

Running at stock speed should be easy...what are you using for a HSF?

Take the side off of your case and if that doesn't help, your HSF is doing something wrong. Not making good contact with the cpu maybe...

[SteenkyBastage]

hey its4i9, welcome to the forums.

few things...

what type of HSF do you have?
what is your case temp at?
do you have stability problems?

ok, and here's a quick test that might let you tell if you are needing better air circulation in the case (which is likely, if you only have psu and a pci fan).

try taking the side off your case and seeing if this lowers your case and/or cpu temps. if the temps go down much (more than 1 or 2C) you could use better air circulation in the case.

good luck!

[XxDonRamonxX]

i feel you man the same thing happend to me and my 1.4tbird 54Cwith cover off idle 51C with cover on so i baught a diff compound being artic silver 2 and the CAK-2 fan by global win 45C idle with cover off 53C with cover on.The company said they would replace the mobo/processor i baught off them.Could my chip be messed up or is it fine?

[SteenkyBastage]

hola xxdonramonxx, welcome to the forums!

your temps also seem a bit high, especially seeing as how they drop 8C when you take the case off. that probably means that you could benefit from better case circulation.

the reason being (simplified):

a HSF (heatsink and fan combo) works porportionally to the air it uses. without getting into too much detail, a HSF will cool a certain ammount of degrees of heat compared to the ambient temperature. so if your ambient temperature is 40C, even the best HSF's out there wont give all that great results.

ideally, you'd like to see your case temperatures stay about the same as when you take the cover off your case (this means the inside air is staying about as cool as it can possibly be by conventional means).

now, there are several other things to consider, as well. but good case cooling is an important start.

it's also important to note: the in-socket thermal probes that are used to measure temperatures aren't always that accurate, and should be taken as a generalization. if you are seeing temperatures of 53C being reported, but yet your computer is running along just fine, i wouldn't be too awful concerned unless you plan on overclocking.

once you start overclocking, heat can become much more of an issue. but with a stock speed system, you'll notice lockups and other symptoms that would indicate you're too hot. if you aren't experiencing lockups, and dont plan on overclocking, i would say you're most likely not in the "too hot" area for normal use.

hope this helps,

good luck!

[f155mph]

Like everyone else said, what kind of hsf do you have? It you have the one from AMD throw it away. And get yourself an Alpha or MCX-462 if you want to best. If you want something cheaper get the glacier II or SK-6. Also is your case dirty? Cleaning the dust out might help.

[Bender]

If you want something inexpensive yet with great cooling try a SVC Golden Gate (http://svcompucycle.com). For around $20 or less you cant go wrong. You can even chose your fan. I reccomend the 30cfm fan if you don't want a lot of noise.

[its4i9]

Yeah, i got the Hs and fan with my processor...i know the fan is ballbearing(nothing special),and the heatsink is also stock. And to answer the other question, my computer only runs stable @ 1.2ghz with 266fsb...and should be @ 1.4 w/ no problem. I Have the side of the case off, with my system temp @ 40c(ussually a few degrees higher during the daytime). And it goes up 5-10c with all the panels on. The CPU temp also drops about 5c. I think i could definetly bump an easy 5-10c off the system temp with a new case fan(I will look into a 30cfm fan). Another question...Would it be worth getting another hsf and heatsink or should i try and get some better thermal grease(or all of them)?

thanks:beer:

[joatam316]

I had a similar problem and i am in the works of fixing it. I definitly suggest that you should get Artic Silver II or III if you can. I applied some AS II on the bottom of my HSF and on my CPU dye and the temp lowered around 9C. You might also want to try installing a blowhole at the top of you case. This will help expel the hot air that biulds up inside the case. I'm currently making my blowhole.

Hope this helps:)

[its4i9]

yeah, i do notice quite a bit of heat trapped at the top of my case, so it sounds like a good idea to make a blowhole. I will get the arctic silver and the 30cfm fan, but wuz wondering if anyone had a good site to buy from. I know there are lots of advertisements for the stuff, but I would appreciate a highly recommended site.:cool:
*by the way, how many decibles is too loud for a fan? I see alot over 45-50db and was wondering if thats too loud.
thanks again...

[its4i9]

I just put in a case fan i brought home from work(60mm) and it made my sys temp drop 12c!:D My cpu is still overheated, so im gonna go with the arctic silver 3 i think...i just need a link to a site i can buy from in the u.s.




*EDIT: Good news.....I just upped my processor speed in bios to 1.4, and no problems. I ran a torture test for 15 min and didnt get an errors or any warnings. Although my processor is still iddling very high(57c), i think once i apply some arctic silver 3 I will notice a definite drop. thanks for your suggestions:)

[joatam316]

Hey its4i9, from what i have read, Artic Silver III isn't out yet. I have Artic Silver II on my processor. I believe that the diff. between the 2 won't be that much. if you want to get Artic Silver II got to:
http://www.subzeropc.com/store/arcticsilver.htm
I purchased mine there also. Might i suggest that if you buy it, apply on both the CPU dye and the bottom of the heatsink, it makes a better connection like that


:D

[JFettig]

whats the hsf? did you get one that would suit your 1.4?
becaues hsf's have a rating on what they can support, i sugest at least one that would go 1.5+ and dont look at 1600+ or 1700+ because they produce a lot less heat