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surfinguru
01-24-02, 06:19 PM
Ok, check sig for current set up as I'm pretty limited on funds. As such, I need to re-use as much equipment as possible.
Anyway to the point, I just got a $150 gift cert from work for good customer service. Bad thing is, the only place I can use it that has puter stuff is BB. (sucks, I know.) So here's my dilema:
Would it be worth it to use the cert for a PIII-1000eb for only $30 outta pocket (I know they're WAY overpriced, but $30 for 1.0 aint bad and if I wait till after the 27th, it might be less.) and get a new mobo like the Abit ST6 off of pricewatch for around $80?
I look forward to everyone's thoughts on this.

*edit*

I know I could get a slotket, but I was considering the ST6 for two reasons, 1) get away from the slot1 form factor and go to the 370, although I've heard rumors that is on its way out now too, and 2) I could upgrade to the newer Celeron/Tualitin chips at some point in the not too distant future. (whew, what a run-on sentence, sorry!:beer: )

Yodums
01-24-02, 06:41 PM
Heres my recommendation:

Abit ST6
1.0a Tualatin

Then sell your rig which will cover the price of the chip or motherboard and you will the rest of the money towards cooling or something.

Yodums

cyberey66
01-24-02, 07:08 PM
Newegg has celeronA 1GHz for $74, if BB has good mobos, I would get that and a mobo from BB. I think the celeronA 1GHz is probally better that the p3 1GHz. Does BB even carry mobos?

-Satan

Yodums
01-24-02, 07:10 PM
The 1.0a Tualatin will definitely mop the floor vs the P3 Coppermine series.

batboy
01-24-02, 07:17 PM
Listen to Yodums....I taught that kid everything he knows...lol. Seriously, if you're getting a new processor to upgrade a P-III 700, then the Tualatin is a good choice (of course you'll need a mobo that supports the Tualatin too). Best Buy sometimes has Asus motherboards, but I don't know what models. But you're also right about Intel trying to phase out the socket 370 by the end of 2002. They want to switch completely over to P-4's eventually. If you're a hardcore gamer, why not get a better vid card from BB and then save up and/or use the income tax refund for a good mobo and CPU.

Yodums
01-24-02, 07:20 PM
You seriously did batboy when I was a newbie here and dazed around here with confusion! :D

Yodums
01-24-02, 07:21 PM
By the way batboy how about teaching me everything you know as your a geolist!!!!

I have a geography exam tomorrow..

surfinguru
01-24-02, 07:28 PM
Well here's the problem, my local BB doesn't carry mobos. Period. As far as processors, they don't have any of the newer Tualitin chips. Only the old celermines. Thus the quandry....

cyberey66
01-24-02, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by batboy
use the income tax refund for a good mobo and CPU.

Ha, my mom said she'll spot me money for a new mobo when she gets the income tax refund, first part ever bought not by me. I just bought a celeron 1GHz coppermine for about $80 and I know I'm going to get a celeronA 1GHz, as soon as I find a job, for the same price I spent on the coppermine. Idk, maybe I can get enough money from my 1GHz on ebay and just pay the dif for a tualatin. Well, anyway, try go for the tualatin if you can, you'll have fun with such an easy OCer.

-Satan

*edit* if you know someone buying something frm BB, try to sell them you're certificate.

batboy
01-24-02, 08:06 PM
Well Yodums, your first lesson is on how to spell geologist...lol.

surfinguru
01-28-02, 07:13 PM
Yodums, thanks for the input. Looks like I'm gonna have to wait at least a few weeks to sort it all out. I do like your suggestion and will more than likely go that route. Thanks again.

Goku008
01-29-02, 04:27 PM
Here is wut u should do, Forget about all that intell crap, and get yourseld a duron 1.2 or better yet an athlon. Its a lot cheaper and faster.:D

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Mr B

BigRed
01-29-02, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Goku008
Here is wut u should do, Forget about all that intell crap, and get yourseld a duron 1.2 or better yet an athlon. Its a lot cheaper and faster.:D
stay out of the intel section if you cant offer any helpful adivce and you are only going to bash.
and quit attaching that image to all your posts, your just slowing down the forums.

anyway time for some helpful comments :)
the best buy near me sells mobo and cpus, i dont know if they have the tutalains but ive seen some 1.1ghz cumine processors there. ask at yoru local best buy if they have a product in another store and they will be more than happy to transfer it to the one near you so you can buy it.

Goku008
01-29-02, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by BigRed

stay out of the intel section if you cant offer any helpful adivce and you are only going to bash.
and quit attaching that image to all your posts, your just slowing down the forums.

anyway time for some helpful comments :)
the best buy near me sells mobo and cpus, i dont know if they have the tutalains but ive seen some 1.1ghz cumine processors there. ask at yoru local best buy if they have a product in another store and they will be more than happy to transfer it to the one near you so you can buy it.

Look here u, I can attach an image if i want to. If your internet is slow its not my problem, And im sorry if i ofended any intel fans.

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Please refrain from attaching that. It really does slow the boards down, esp for those on a dial up connection.

If the internet is slow, sometimes it NOT their problem. Not everyone is fortunate enough to live in an area that offers cable or DSL hookup. Some are stuck with a 56K, or nothing. Have a bit of courtesy, please.

Thanks.

Mr B

BigRed
01-29-02, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Goku008


Look here u, I can attach an image if i want to. If your internet is slow its not my problem, And im sorry if i ofended any intel fans.
i need a mod here to help
shouldnt u only attach a message if its a helpful picture (of hardware, screenshot, etc.)? and it isnt only my problem, you are wasting forum space. that picture takes up room on the forum computer.
and you are slowing the forum down as a whole, not just my computer.

cyberey66
01-29-02, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Goku008
Here is wut u should do, Forget about all that intell crap, and get yourseld a duron 1.2 or better yet an athlon. Its a lot cheaper and faster.:D


an 1.2 duron will not beat a celeron 1.2. Accually, a the celeron 1.2 is almost dead even with the althon XP 1.5, when clocked at the same speed. I'll search for the tests, and I'll edit them in as soon as I find it.

One more thing, please don't post pointless pictures, they have no purpose, and they slow down the page from loading. Oh yea, it's also my fault I have 56k? I guess I should just have the phone company replace my old lines so I can get dsl. Please, if you post pointless posts they will be deleted by mods, and in the long run it is not worth it. Just don't act like a 10 yo, be conciderate. Don't come into the intel forum to flame someone for having intel.

-Satan

surfinguru
01-30-02, 10:54 AM
lol, the guy can't even spell Intel. Sheez, some people.

BigRed, thanks for the suggestion. The closest store to me is about an hour away and trying to get someone on the phone, let alone someone that is knowledgeable is tough at best. I'll check it out though.

Satan, I'd like to see that comparison you mentioned. If not only for my sake, but for this thread trolling AMD clown.

Goku008
01-30-02, 04:04 PM
I would like to see that celeron beating athlon xp:p

Durons compete with p3 processors, celerons barely come close to durons. I have seen all bm on madonion, and i never seen a celeron come close to a duron clocked at same speeds, same goes for sandra benchmarks.:D

saytan
01-30-02, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Goku008
I would like to see that celeron beating athlon xp:p

Durons compete with p3 processors, celerons barely come close to durons. I have seen all bm on madonion, and i never seen a celeron come close to a duron clocked at same speeds, same goes for sandra benchmarks.:D



and if you pulled your head from AMD's bottom for just five seconds you'd know that


1) the new celeron is a p3
2) it will overclock WAY WAY higher than any duron


now why dont you disappear back to your little section ta

cyberey66
01-30-02, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Goku008
I would like to see that celeron beating athlon xp:p

Durons compete with p3 processors, celerons barely come close to durons. I have seen all bm on madonion, and i never seen a celeron come close to a duron clocked at same speeds, same goes for sandra benchmarks.:D

The celerons with the tualatin core have bumped up cache, 256k and the new .13 micron technology with 1.45volts. So they are much better than the fastest P3 out there. Here's the link, for the celeron 1.5 vs XP 1.5. Took me a while to find it, lucky I remembered the review was written by pinky, and found it at aoa. http://www.daocplace.com/reviews/xpvstual/AMDMultMcomparison_700.gif

Can't wait to grab one of these! :D
http://www.daocplace.com/reviews/xpvstual/AMDCPUcomparison_700.gif

if you want me to delete that pic just tell me, don't really know if it will slow up the thread.

BigRed
01-30-02, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by saytan




and if you pulled your head from AMD's bottom for just five seconds you'd know that


1) the new celeron is a p3
2) it will overclock WAY WAY higher than any duron


now why dont you disappear back to your little section ta
yes i agree, stay the hell out of the intel section if all you are going to do is bitch about intel
you dont see me posting in the amd section saying the northwood @ 3ghz smacks around every athlon do u?
now go away.

CrystalMethod
02-02-02, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Goku008
I would like to see that celeron beating athlon xp:p

Durons compete with p3 processors, celerons barely come close to durons. I have seen all bm on madonion, and i never seen a celeron come close to a duron clocked at same speeds, same goes for sandra benchmarks.:D

You want real world bench marks, go buy a copy of MAYA, and see which out of the two will be standing on top at the end of a 10 hour rendering session.

Oh yeah, Goku008? There's only one "L" in Intel... check your sig...

surfinguru
02-03-02, 01:15 PM
Haha, you guys are great! This is why I come to this forum so often. Thanks for the benchies. I think I know which direction I'll be going......:D

takiwa
02-03-02, 04:01 PM
The celerons with the tualatin core have bumped up cache, 256k and the new .13 micron technology with 1.45volts. So they are much better than the fastest P3 out there. Here's the link, for the celeron 1.5 vs XP 1.5. Took me a while to find it, lucky I remembered the review was written by pinky, and found it at aoa. http://www.daocplace.com/reviews/xp...parison_700.gif

a 1.2a @ 1.53? I got a 1.1a @ 1.54, and I'll take on any Athlon out there...:beer: I ain't skeered.....:D

Mr B
02-03-02, 11:53 PM
Easy gentlemen..it's getting a bit "warm" in this thread, if you catch my drift.... (:mad: :mad: )

Thank you.

Mr B

tainice
02-04-02, 01:15 AM
i have to agree with Mr. B on this one, don't take it so serious guys:) i believe Goku only tried to help people out, and in his opinion, amd is the best, and who could blame him for that? but, yeah, stop talking about your duron 1.2 and stuff for it offers "NO' room to oc period, and facts DO speak for themselves. anyway, not good to flame anyone, keep your respect towad others, and don't sunk to the those amd fan boys' level...... :D

CrystalMethod
02-05-02, 08:17 PM
The problem is that I don't belive he is trying to help. All his posts (not just in this thread), are about him, what he has, and how much better it is. I have yet to see him contribute anything useful in the Intel CPU's section.