Sick and Tired of "G-Rated" Servers

[WonderingSoul]

Firstly, I am not a casual gamer, I am a competitive one. I used to be in top tier leagues and don't kid around. Yeah, I am a nerd.

If I am playing a game that has swearing in it, or let alone already rated Mature, then why the heck are kids playing these games? Or why are these hipocritical-egotistical-Nazi-fun-killers running servers?

The game is rated MATURE. Children shouldn't be near, around, or playing these games. So why are these servers even in existence?

For example: The Edge Gamers DoD:S servers. I was banned because my name was "Mike Hawke." The reason being that "children may be around or watching." Yet another player's name was "Baby Stomper?" What the hell.

"Family Fun?" Yeah, shooting people in the face and desensitizing children to violence is good clean fun.

I know the reserve the right to run the servers how they see fit to keep it "clean fun" but this isn't clean, this is "sterile fun."



End of comepletely unecessary rant

[nd4spdbh2]

i feel you man!

I play all of like 2 first person shooters on a regular basis.... CS 1.6 and BF2. and both there are servers that i have been kick / banned for saying "mature" language. This is one reason why i run my own CS 1.6 server and play in the same BF2 server as i have found one thats not retarded strict.

[Voidn]

Stop being a rational human being, you might upset the herd! Nipples and curse words are of teh devil but blowing peoples faces off all day, in HD, is 100% natural human activity :).

[SuperMiguel]

Firstly, I am not a casual gamer, I am a competitive one. I used to be in top tier leagues and don't kid around. Yeah, I am a nerd.

If I am playing a game that has swearing in it, or let alone already rated Mature, then why the heck are kids playing these games? Or why are these hipocritical-egotistical-Nazi-fun-killers running servers?

The game is rated MATURE. Children shouldn't be near, around, or playing these games. So why are these servers even in existence?

For example: The Edge Gamers DoD:S servers. I was banned because my name was "Mike Hawke." The reason being that "children may be around or watching." Yet another player's name was "Baby Stomper?" What the hell.

"Family Fun?" Yeah, shooting people in the face and desensitizing children to violence is good clean fun.

I know the reserve the right to run the servers how they see fit to keep it "clean fun" but this isn't clean, this is "sterile fun."



End of comepletely unecessary rant

no one really cares about this.. i seem 10 year kids buying +17 games in walmart and no one asked them their age...

[Leviathan41]

The bottom line is they own the servers and they can make and enforce whatever rules they want. If you don't like it, leave the server or run your own server with your own set of rules.

I've never understood why people get so offended when server rules tell them not to swear. People have different values. Some people are okay with animated violence but don't want to hear/read swearing. Some people are okay with swearing, but don't want to see animated violence. If you don't agree with their values, that's fine. They aren't asking you to agree with them, they are only asking you to follow their rules if you want to play on THEIR server.

Just go to a different server if you want to swear, it's not that big of a deal.

[Hardin]

I like the no swearing servers. One time when I was playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2 this kid would say "You've gotta be ****ting me" everytime he was killed, which happened a lot.

[inkfx]

I've never run into that issue. The only problem I encounter is I get banned for "cheating" a lot. CS1.6 is my game of choice. So I don't even get to play that often. lol. I would just scrim but most of my buddies quit playing CS years ago.

[Naked Mole Rat]

it's called escapism. a lot of people who don't like swearing often swear IRL. it's not being hypocritical. people play games to escape the real world and get away from all the b.s., and that includes cussing. or hearing chat spam. or cheater and hackers. etc etc

I love G-rated servers. I'm almost 40, can and have dropped F bombs with the best of them, but prefer not to cuss anymore. and i prefer not to hear it.

video game violence does not equate to real life violence. just like movies, and music, etc etc etc etc

i don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch over kids playing violent video games.

my $.02

The bottom line is they own the servers and they can make and enforce whatever rules they want. If you don't like it, leave the server or run your own server with your own set of rules.

I've never understood why people get so offended when server rules tell them not to swear. People have different values. Some people are okay with animated violence but don't want to hear/read swearing. Some people are okay with swearing, but don't want to see animated violence. If you don't agree with their values, that's fine. They aren't asking you to agree with them, they are only asking you to follow their rules if you want to play on THEIR server.

Just go to a different server if you want to swear, it's not that big of a deal.

+1

[WonderingSoul]

The bottom line is they own the servers and they can make and enforce whatever rules they want. If you don't like it, leave the server or run your own server with your own set of rules.

I've never understood why people get so offended when server rules tell them not to swear. People have different values. Some people are okay with animated violence but don't want to hear/read swearing. Some people are okay with swearing, but don't want to see animated violence. If you don't agree with their values, that's fine. They aren't asking you to agree with them, they are only asking you to follow their rules if you want to play on THEIR server.

Just go to a different server if you want to swear, it's not that big of a deal.

I'm not offended about not being able to swear. I don't have voice enabled in game because of any time you ever tell an admin they are wrong, you're banned. For example, an admin was arguing with me about how cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, rate and cl_interp were illegal commands and thus "cheating." I tried to explain to him it wasn't cheating but when he proceded to tell me that "Making your shots register on people is cheating." I lost it and told he was an idiot, thus, banned.

That's not even what my post is about. It's the point that the game is rated Mature, yet why are we being coddled to the game being G-rated?

Don't like how the game is rated, don't play the game.



video game violence does not equate to real life violence. just like movies, and music, etc etc etc etc

i don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch over kids playing violent video games.


The ignorance spewing from this comment is overwhelming. I get my panties in a bunch because when kid's play violent video games it has a large impact on how their brains develop what is real violence compared to video game violence. They see someone running around with a gun blasting people and not getting hurt, they could very well believe that it is real, that they can get a gun and run around like Mr. Invisible. It is a scientific fact that children exposed to violent video games develop more agressive (not violent) tendencies. I am also all for the positives of video games. Like when video games can be used as tools for rehabilitation in patients who have visual attention problems, including those who have had strokes.

[Leviathan41]

I'm not offended about not being able to swear. I don't have voice enabled in game because of any time you ever tell an admin they are wrong, you're banned. For example, an admin was arguing with me about how cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate, rate and cl_interp were illegal commands and thus "cheating." I tried to explain to him it wasn't cheating but when he proceded to tell me that "Making your shots register on people is cheating." I lost it and told he was an idiot, thus, banned.

That's not even what my post is about. It's the point that the game is rated Mature, yet why are we being coddled to the game being G-rated?

Don't like how the game is rated, don't play the game.
The reason why swearing is not allowed on certain servers is not always that there may be kids playing. As Naked Mole Rat said, some adults don't like to hear/read swearing in their games either. I'm in my mid-20s and I prefer to play on the no-swearing servers.

If you join one of these servers, surely you can express yourself without swearing? If not, there are plenty of other servers for you to play on. Stop complaining about it and just change servers.

[jediobi1]

why would the name "Mike Hawke" get you banned? that dont make sense to me :confused:

[WonderingSoul]

The reason why swearing is not allowed on certain servers is not always that there may be kids playing. As Naked Mole Rat said, some adults don't like to hear/read swearing in their games either. I'm in my mid-20s and I prefer to play on the no-swearing servers.

If you join one of these servers, surely you can express yourself without swearing? If not, there are plenty of other servers for you to play on. Stop complaining about it and just change servers.

I said I don't even use in game voice... Hence, I don't even talk. :bang head

[Leviathan41]

I said I don't even use in game voice... Hence, I don't even talk. :bang head
Then why are you complaining about no-swearing servers if you don't even talk? :bang head

[WonderingSoul]

Then why are you complaining that you can't swear if you don't even talk? :bang head:

Re-read any of my previous posts. :)

It's because these guys complain about everything under the sun that is not G rated, but the game is rated MATURE.

[don'tknow]

It could likely be because they want to keep the server more idiot-free or something, and often it's the kiddies/morons who cuss a lot. Personally don't care about cussing. But, they should start banning the idiots instead of banning anyone who cusses, or uses some 'offensive' name (whoever bans for the name 'Mike Hawke' is an utter idiot).

For example... someone says "dammit" after getting killed. That = no big deal. Then, someone else saying "rofl ur stupid noob aimbotter u suck" should be more grounds for a kick/ban. If the server is run poorly, they would ban the guy who said "dammit" but not ban the idiot who said "rofl ur stupid noob aimbotter u suck" and say that 'he didn't cuss so it's ok'.

I've encountered plenty of braindead server admins so it's nothing unusual.

[Leviathan41]

why would the name "Mike Hawke" get you banned? that dont make sense to me :confused:
Read it fast. "my _ _ _ _"
Re-read any of my previous posts. :)

It's because these guys complain about everything under the sun that is not G rated, but the game is rated MATURE.
So you wanted to use a name that some people would find offensive, and you joined a server that wouldn't let you use it, and that's a reason to complain? Once again, it's THEIR server and THEIR rules, if you don't like it, find a different server. It has nothing to do with what the game is rated. There are many people who are old enough to play M-rated games who don't want to hear/read swearing or hear/read offensive names. It's as simple as that, if you don't like their rules, go play somewhere else. In my opinion, you really have no right to complain.

[SteveLord]

It really is the dumbest thing on T and M rated games. But is is their server. I've seen a CoD4 one that didnt allow you to jump+shoot. Someone asked about jumping and throwing nades and the admin actually had to break for a minute to confirm that rule.

BF2 is the only mass server game I play, and I play in my clan's....which does have such rules, but I do all the swearing on teamspeak. No point in typing or talking much in a 64player server.

[shadin]

I agree, M rated games having G rated servers is stupid. But unfortunately, stupid people are allowed to run servers. As has been said, nothing to do about it but move along or host your own. Welcome to ReligionLand, where extremely graphic gratuitous violence in large doses is A-OK, as long as nobody says a naughty word.

[Hardin]

Being an adult doesn't mean that you should swear all the time. I don't like swearing and I never swear, but I wont criticize people for doing it.

[moocow]

I agree, M rated games having G rated servers is stupid. But unfortunately, stupid people are allowed to run servers. As has been said, nothing to do about it but move along or host your own. Welcome to ReligionLand, where extremely graphic gratuitous violence in large doses is A-OK, as long as nobody says a naughty word.

+1
And this is the reason why I hardly ever pub. I cant do the whole "my server, my rules" thing.

[Captain Newbie]

Firstly, I am not a casual gamer, I am a competitive one. I used to be in top tier leagues and don't kid around. Yeah, I am a nerd.

If I am playing a game that has swearing in it, or let alone already rated Mature, then why the heck are kids playing these games? Or why are these hipocritical-egotistical-Nazi-fun-killers running servers?

The game is rated MATURE. Children shouldn't be near, around, or playing these games. So why are these servers even in existence?

For example: The Edge Gamers DoD:S servers. I was banned because my name was "Mike Hawke." The reason being that "children may be around or watching." Yet another player's name was "Baby Stomper?" What the hell.

"Family Fun?" Yeah, shooting people in the face and desensitizing children to violence is good clean fun.

I know the reserve the right to run the servers how they see fit to keep it "clean fun" but this isn't clean, this is "sterile fun."


One:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/macasfaj/thanks_for_the_info.jpg

Two:

Their server, their rules. While it's arbitrary and unbelievably stupid, it's still theirs, so you're left with no choice but to GTFO.

[Voidn]

Maybe next time you should use the nick "Heywood Jablome" :)

//I just couldn't resist.

[Naked Mole Rat]

The ignorance spewing from this comment is overwhelming. I get my panties in a bunch because when kid's play violent video games it has a large impact on how their brains develop what is real violence compared to video game violence. They see someone running around with a gun blasting people and not getting hurt, they could very well believe that it is real, that they can get a gun and run around like Mr. Invisible. It is a scientific fact that children exposed to violent video games develop more agressive (not violent) tendencies. I am also all for the positives of video games. Like when video games can be used as tools for rehabilitation in patients who have visual attention problems, including those who have had strokes.

OK smart guy. Show me the "scientific fact" that children exposed to violent video games develop more aggressive tendencies.

Then right after the fact hihglight where it states what kind of upbringing the child has. Is the child living with a single parent? Is the child living in an urban city? Is the child inherently aggressive anyway due to genetics, autism, or perhaps the mother drinking during pregnancy? Is the child abused verbally or physically by his/her parents? Does the kid hunt with his mom/dad and is the kid exposed to weapons? Is the child picked on in school? Does the child take medication? Does the child not get enough proper attention/love/parenting? etc etc etc etc blah blah blah

Second, a video game is no different than say, a toy gun, toy army soldiers, etc etc etc blah blah blah.

Video games are bad for kids, period. Violent or not.

Finally, if a kid is playing a video game that is rated M, who's fault is that?

No. Sorry. Again, video games, espeically violent ones, do not equate to real life violence.

If you want to get your panties in a bunch, talk about how kids play video games and don't read. Or watch tv, period.

The only ignorance here is in your words, not mine. So easy to blame kids and video games at face value without looking at the whole picture.

[Naked Mole Rat]

Being an adult doesn't mean that you should swear all the time. I don't like swearing and I never swear, but I wont criticize people for doing it.

Exactly. Kids have so much to prove that they can swear, can drink and get drunk in public, get high (i'm so sick of all the pot references in names, wow, how cute ANOTHER Route420 name)

Lack of maturity is what this all boils down to. Can't handle someone else having say.

It's like wearing a large white t-shirt, baggy jeans, hat on backwards and getting ****ed off because they won't hire you as a professional employee or won't let you into their 5 Star Restaurant.

[Shiggity]

I'm feelin ya OP, I'm feelin ya.

WoW - WOTLK is a 10 year old fest.

[Dapman02]

I personally like the lack of swearing in my servers
I am religious and play m-rated games. There's nothing wrong with it in my eyes because it's I play for the "sport" not for the "omg, I totally shot you in the face and I see you brains on the wall". Cursing ruins a server for me. In todays world people are so used to cursing freely and it gets old. It's nice to be able to jump on a server and not have to worry about somebody dropping a bunch of f-bombs on the server. The occasional curse doesn't bother me, but I know people who it as a a replacement for "uh", and that is just annoying.

IMHO, it shows a persons intelligence.

[Captain Newbie]

IMHO, it shows a persons intelligence.

Cursing and swearing can be artful, intelligent, and articulate...hang around with some A&P mechanics sometime, or sailors for that matter, and you will have your vocabulary enhanced and pick up a colorful selection of epithets for when you stub your toe. The problem is that most gametards can't swear intelligently, artfully, or articulately. They are unable to string together anything more articulate than "**** you, *************." :(

Now, swearing to particularly describe someone's genetic makeup, family history, and likely future employment prospects is different than generic gametard swearing.

Not having a problem with violence, but having a problem with foul language, does blow my mind. Ditto for not having a problem with violence, but having a problem with sex. Hrm.

And in before apostrophe-s... ;)

[SteveLord]

IMHO, it shows a persons intelligence.

I guess the military only recruits these kinds of swearing idiots right?

[Dapman02]

I guess the military only recruits these kinds of swearing idiots right?

I don't necessarily call them idiots, I meant that's how they appear to me, but I don't judge people for their words, just there actions.

I REALLY don't want this to grow into a flame war, I treat people who curse regularly the same way I treat someone who doesn't, but I still feel more comfortable being around people who don't. I feel a subject as touchy as this, can't be discussed on a forum (by me), because I find it hard to describe the feeling, no matter what I say it won't sound right.

[Tsnowflake]

So easy to blame kids and video games at face value without looking at the whole picture.

+1

Concluding that violent video games make violent kids is the same as concluding that since rich people go to the opera, the opera must make people rich.

You need to look at all the factors in the kids life, especially the home environment and parents. Rarely, if ever, is there a normal kid with a normal home life who plays a violent game and then goes ballistic.

Violent kids are simply more drawn to violent video games. Now don't get me wrong I do think there should be some age restrictions, I surely wouldn't want my kids playing GTAIV at age 6.

[xilix]

They see someone running around with a gun blasting people and not getting hurt, they could very well believe that it is real,

:screwy:

This is where YOU as a parent come in and teach your children about what is real and what is not. YOU teach them about what is right and what is wrong. Exposing children to stimuli has NO BEARING WHAT-SO-EVER on their development. This is where people get it wrong. It's how children INTERPRET these stimuli that determines their development. And sorry, but if your kids are interpreting video games as something that can happen in real life, you have FAILED them as a parent.

If you, as a parent, are going to let a video game teach your child about violence, then maybe you should have opted to not procreate.

More-over, it is NOT scientifically proven that video games make children more aggressive. You, sir, have pulled that straight out of your anal cavity. Also, do you have ANY idea how many people here on this very forum grew up playing Doom, Doom 2, Redneck Rampage, Duke Nukem, Rise of the Triad, Quake 1, 2&3, The POSTAL series ect. ect.. the list goes on forever. Most of us have been playing violent video games since we were old enough to physically grab a controller or mouse and start playing, and I'd be willing to bet that hardly any of us have aggression problems. And if one of us did, it'd probably be attributed to something other than a VIDEO GAME WE PLAYED. I mean come on, get a grip on reality.

I'm very passive unless I need to defend myself, you wanna know why? My mother. My mother, taught me real from unreal, right from wrong, disciplined me when I needed it, threw me into Kenpo Karate for 10 years which taught me tons of self discipline... she did her job as a parent, and as a result I'm a good human being with my head screwed on nice and tight. If, on the other hand I went into my school and mowed down a bunch of kids with an AK, then obviously my mother didn't do her job very well.

There is not one single thing more powerful in a child's development, than their parent(s). There is NOTHING MORE ANNOYING than someone who thinks violent video games have a bearing on child development. It drives me up a wall and it's akin to people in congress trying to pin murders on Ozzy Osborn because of his music. :bang head:bang head:bang head:bang head

[Venomos1996]

I guess the military only recruits these kinds of swearing idiots right?


Hmmmmm.... I guess I need not come to these forums... or at least this part as I might be construed as a swearing idiot ... :screwy:

Anywayz... LOL.... I do hear ya OP ... I work in a maintenance minded carrer field (read my quote in my sig) And it's just the way some people are... If I cuss a little then well ok... I definitely do not talk like that around my kids other than threaten to whoop their a** if they screw up... Not that I ever do.. LOL... I'd never let my 10 yr old play anything remotely even close to CS or anything FPS like that. I'm not sheltering him either, he knows gun safety and knows exactly what a .45 can do to a watermelon and he actually might get a BB gun if he shows me he can handle it.

But I digress ... If the game is Mature, then why are there kids playing it? I totally agree that parents are the most influence on their children but you can't watch them 24/7 either. As a parent of 3 kids, I would not let them play violent games or at least out of their age range. I have had talks with my stepson about his wrestling moves on his sister. He just tells me 'I do it at my Dads, he lets me'. See what I mean.. Sometimes the couldn't-care-less parent is to blame. It just baffles me that parents sometimes have no clue about thier own children but are the first to start spouting about how bad of a parent you are though...:(

[Captain Newbie]

Hmmmmm.... I guess I need not come to these forums... or at least this part as I might be construed as a swearing idiot ... :screwy:

Anywayz... LOL.... I do hear ya OP ... I work in a maintenance minded carrer field (read my quote in my sig) And it's just the way some people are... If I cuss a little then well ok... I definitely do not talk like that around my kids other than threaten to whoop their a** if they screw up... Not that I ever do..
Related...IYAOYAS :burn:

LOL... I'd never let my 10 yr old play anything remotely even close to CS or anything FPS like that. I'm not sheltering him either, he knows gun safety and knows exactly what a .45 can do to a watermelon and he actually might get a BB gun if he shows me he can handle it.
Congratulations. You are a GOOD parent. Every time I hear the media go "Aiee!" about computer/video games, I want to shout "WHERE ARE THE PARENTS THANKS?"

[Venomos1996]

Related...IYAOYAS :burn:

SWEET... Navy?


Congratulations. You are a GOOD parent. Every time I hear the media go "Aiee!" about computer/video games, I want to shout "WHERE ARE THE PARENTS THANKS?"

I hear that... OMG.... I actually had a lady come up to me a few months back when I swatted my 7 year old on the butt for trying to grab every candy bar she could at the store AFTER I told her several times NO.. she had candy at the house anyway... The lady was like 'I think I need to turn you in for child abuse' and whips out the cell.... I was like WTF??? Then I told her go ahead... bring the cops on in... She then proceeded to tell me I was a horrible parent and that my kids should be taken away from an abusive parent like me... Then my wife rolled up with the loaf of bread and was like' what is going on here?' ... I told her and she whipped around and immediately unloaded on this poor woman.. OMG... Everyone for 3 aisles was like holy crap... They all were coming to the ends of the aisle to see what was happening.. to make a long story short.. the lady admitted she had no kids and my wife then asked how can you judge either of us? What experience do you have parenting... Needless to say the cops weren't too pleased to be called out on something like that and they did tell her if she pulled something like that again she might be headed to sit in the cell for making a false report..

I mean come on... Where did this lady come from? This is why I never understood why people are freakin out... I just gave her a little pop on the butt to get her attention and to reinforce the NO that I told her repeatedly before... WOW....
She was prolly one of those that was all about violence in video games and in with Hillary Clinton about explict lyrics in songs too... OH WELL ... :bang head

[WonderingSoul]

For the second and third time. I never said anything about making kids violent, but aggressive. Worlds of difference.

And honestly this thread is turning into a polital battle about video game violence when it was just a stupid rant about idiot moderators to begin with.

So much for sharing thoughts anymore, then to just get blasted. To be fair, I did my share of blasting.

Oh well, enjoy your games guys :beer:

[jaymz9350]

no one really cares about this.. i seem 10 year kids buying +17 games in walmart and no one asked them their age...

I need to find that wal-mart, I"m 29 and get carded for canned air and spray paint :bang head

[Captain Newbie]

I need to find that wal-mart, I"m 29 and get carded for canned air and spray paint :bang head

In California, and at Target, I (22 and looking like I'm 26 or 27, or so I'm told) was carded and they recorded my date of birth while buying Halo 2, I think it was. Don't remember.

[Niku-Sama]

For the second and third time. I never said anything about making kids violent, but aggressive. Worlds of difference.

And honestly this thread is turning into a polital battle about video game violence when it was just a stupid rant about idiot moderators to begin with.

So much for sharing thoughts anymore, then to just get blasted. To be fair, I did my share of blasting.

Oh well, enjoy your games guys :beer:

its ok, its some thing some people never seem to grasp, even when there were violent nintendo/atari games.

any way what game are you having the problems in?

and frankly this g-rated server **** is something new, i never ever saw any g rated servers in any games untill about the time COD4 came out. i am not saying it was the cause of it but it was arround that time frame.

i would ban people for cheating and for being stupid. also when some one pipes up and they sound like some 10 year old kid they are just gone. they could be some MJ type of person with a squeaky voice but its better safe than sorry in that situation

[Neural Net]

It's as if people have never heard of CS Rage... People that get offended or emotionally traumatized by a bit over swearing over the internet need to harden up. Some people use these games as a way to vent their frustrations, others use the gym, others play sport. It's better than drinking or taking drugs in my book. Telling people to watch their language in a mature rated game is ever so slightly ridiculous, it's bordering on absurd, especially if it's not targeted. Just look at the "Underground" section on Xbox Live, kind of says it all.

I've donned my flameproof suit. :burn:

[Hardin]

its ok, its some thing some people never seem to grasp, even when there were violent nintendo/atari games.

any way what game are you having the problems in?

and frankly this g-rated server **** is something new, i never ever saw any g rated servers in any games untill about the time COD4 came out. i am not saying it was the cause of it but it was arround that time frame.

i would ban people for cheating and for being stupid. also when some one pipes up and they sound like some 10 year old kid they are just gone. they could be some MJ type of person with a squeaky voice but its better safe than sorry in that situation

Nah I saw them years before on CS Source.