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deathstar13
01-24-02, 10:42 PM
i just saw it somewhere that this is a good possabilty for using instead of water.
1.transfers heat better than h20
2.isnt conductive
3. will prolong life of pump

sounded weird to me at the time but now i think about it why not?
seems logical
has anyone have any knowledge on this or seen it used in a pump system? "ie-watercooled type system"
ive seen it used as a submersion fluid and is great but just a messy heavy pain i would guess.
someone even said alchohol would work as it transfers heat good also and is not conductive and would solve the problem of viscosity as with mineral oil

just some late night brain busters!

Bender
01-24-02, 11:01 PM
Alchohol is definately not good for heat transfer. I'm not shure about mineral oils heat transfer but I doubt its as good as water. If it were as good as water it would be great for water cooling systems. Mineral oil is expensive but It probably wouldn't be all that bad in the small quantities needed. Does anyone know how well mineral oil transfers heat?

res0r9lm
01-25-02, 12:07 AM
I believe h2o is better. you might be able to make some kind of phase cange system out of pure alcohol I know you can out of 100% ammonia

res0r9lm
01-25-02, 12:08 AM
wouldn't try ammonia though very dangerous. if a leaks can't beathe or see

deathstar13
01-25-02, 12:27 AM
geeez if overclocking isnt bad dangerous enough to my wallet now its gonna affect my smeller and my peepers!
hehee
not that actually considering doing these things at the moment.
gotta get my watercooling rig started in 2 weeks first and get some basic experiance !

res0r9lm
01-25-02, 12:44 AM
my dad does cooling for a living. was screwing around with a gaint unit that he had hanging around from an old job. open a pipe up that ammonia came out and kicked my butt. can't imagine how it would be in a house. game over more than likely

Hoot
01-25-02, 11:26 AM
Since no one answered your question, I did a quick Google search and wound up on a page for Transformer Oils. According to that page and in keeping with what I've read elsewhere, Mineral Oil is only 43% as effective as water for moving heat. There are some better oil choices for heat transfer though. Some come very close to water, but probably cost a lot more than mineral oil.

Hoot

Cluster
01-25-02, 12:32 PM
From what i hear, if you plan on using something to cool the water to sub zero temps, a h20/glycol(antifreeze) mix is the best for viscosity/heat transfer/and freezing point. Although adding a little salt to the water will also dip the freezing point to about -4c

Cheers:beer:

Aesik
01-25-02, 02:17 PM
Adding salt will also add deposits everywhere in your system.

deathstar13
01-25-02, 02:41 PM
i did a search last night my self , just for my own knowledge i guess. and at the moment the best solution for liquid heat transfer is h2o/glycol/water wetter

this is a interesting link i found
http://hypertextbook.com/physics/thermal/conduction/index.shtml
is a table of thermal conductivity of most things even carpet!
just interesting reading. also if u look at 3m they have a web page on florinert. sounds kool as heck but is way expensive from what i hear and isnt worth the $ yet
can u guys give me the best h2o/glycol/water wetter solution ratio for this?

and how about a opionion on this system?http://www.leufkentechnologies.com/waterkits.shtml
im looking at the colorado with a radiator upgrade and the pump upgrade. will be $149 i think this is a steal!
pros- copper block,110v 400gph pump/w resivour.
cons-3/8" tubing
but i dont see that much of a problem.
ive even read about leufken before but it seems i never see or hear much about em anymore?
anyone use there stuff or this system?
id appreciate any help i can get!

res0r9lm
01-25-02, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by deathstar13
i did a search last night my self , just for my own knowledge i guess. and at the moment the best solution for liquid heat transfer is h2o/glycol/water wetter

this is a interesting link i found
http://hypertextbook.com/physics/thermal/conduction/index.shtml
is a table of thermal conductivity of most things even carpet!
just interesting reading. also if u look at 3m they have a web page on florinert. sounds kool as heck but is way expensive from what i hear and isnt worth the $ yet
can u guys give me the best h2o/glycol/water wetter solution ratio for this?

and how about a opionion on this system?http://www.leufkentechnologies.com/waterkits.shtml
im looking at the colorado with a radiator upgrade and the pump upgrade. will be $149 i think this is a steal!
pros- copper block,110v 400gph pump/w resivour.
cons-3/8" tubing
but i dont see that much of a problem.
ive even read about leufken before but it seems i never see or hear much about em anymore?
anyone use there stuff or this system?
id appreciate any help i can get!

h2o+waterwetter has best as long as you are not going below freezing
actually there is a new technolgy that will greatly improve heat transfer called nano liquid what it is microscopic pieces of metal suspend in liquid in this case cu&h2o you would have to add something for anticorrision