Kingmax PC2700, Corsair PC2700 or OCZ PC3000??? [Archive]

herbal'|'

01-25-02, 08:02 AM

I can't speak for Corsair, but I've tried both Kingmax PC2700 and OCZ PC3000. The Kingmax is by far the best ram I've ever owned. It will do 175+ at CL2 with the fastest timings. The OCZ PC3000 wouldn't do over 145 with those settings. The reason the Kingmax is better is because it has true 5ns chips, where as the OCZ has 7.5ns chips. I think the Corsair has 6ns chips, but I'm not sure. IMHO, the Kingmax PC2700 5ns is by far the best overclockable DDR ram to date.

Henry Rollins II

01-26-02, 08:55 AM

For your information: Your memory are set at 350 Mhz, not 175.

regards,
Henry.

herbal'|'

01-26-02, 12:23 PM

For your information: The correct grammar would be, "Your memory IS set at 350MHz, not 175MHz." If you are going to try to correct someone, at least do it right.

Obviously the memory is running at 350MHz, because it is DDR. Some people do not understand this concept and freak out when they see 350MHz. To simplify it so everyone understands, I list it as 175MHz, as do most other people on this forum.

Next time, why don't you supply some real information instead of making stupid comments.

Henry Rollins II

01-26-02, 12:26 PM

Slmhofy

01-26-02, 01:31 PM

I recently purchased a KR7A-R and some OCZ pc2700. I had quite high expectations of the OCZ module because of my previous experience with them. Needless to say that I could hit about 175 with relaxed memory setting and a disapointing 140 or so with highest settings @ 2.85v. Guess I should have waited for some more reviews before jumpimg into this system, oh well.

killersushi

01-26-02, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by herbal'|'
For your information: The correct grammar would be, "Your memory IS set at 350MHz, not 175MHz." If you are going to try to correct someone, at least do it right.

Obviously the memory is running at 350MHz, because it is DDR. Some people do not understand this concept and freak out when they see 350MHz. To simplify it so everyone understands, I list it as 175MHz, as do most other people on this forum.

Next time, why don't you supply some real information instead of making stupid comments.

Well, you're wrong. The frequency the ram is running at is 175Mhz, no doubt about it. DDR meaning it's taking double the data with it in every clock cycle. 266, 300, 333 being but plain pr. It just sells easier.

Let me quote a very true sentence of yourself: If you are going to try to correct someone, at least do it right. ;)

Uh, :eh?: you guys are both wrong? Guess I'm confused now. :beer:

@fede
I don't recommend anything from ocz. Personally, I would go with Corsair PC2700, seen some good results with them. They sure go for a price though.

Jon

01-26-02, 07:54 PM

I say we drop the "who's grammar is right or wrong" bit and get back to what the question was before I send out anymore warnings and have to confiscate this thread.

Keep it civil people.

killersushi

01-26-02, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Jon
I say we drop the "who's grammar is right or wrong" bit and get back to what the question was before I send out anymore warnings and have to confiscate this thread.

Keep it civil people.

Oh I DID get back to the original question, sure hope you noticed Sir :)

Jon

01-26-02, 08:03 PM

I noticed...it just so happens that what isn't necessary is often noticed more. :)

Krusty

01-27-02, 06:28 PM

I've got myself 512mb of corsair pc2400 and it works beautifully. I set it down to cas2, but have not had the chance to take it over 145mhz fsb speed. I'll soon find out how it will do when I put in my water cooling though...

Staz

01-27-02, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by fede78
What memory are better for overclocking on KR7A-RAID?
I need high memory speed at cas 2.
What is better: Kingmax DDR333, Corsair PC2700 CAS2 or OCZ PC3000 ?

I am just going to ignor everyone else and try yo give you an answer best I can.

I don't own any of these so this just comes from my observations on tech sites and forum boards.

The OCZ appears to be crap. Lot of complaints about it not even hitting 150. All complaints similar and probibly a good indicator of the quality of the ram.

The kingmax is a crap shoot. It appear they are useing 5ns chips on some modules and 7.5ns chips on other modules with the same part number. People with the 7.5ns chips complain about how bad this ram sucks and the peopl with 5ns chip come running to the defense of the brand. If you can find a vendor that will garuntee you 5ns chips then these might be your best buy. If the vendor won't garuntee the speed of the chips you may be stuck paying a restocking fee.

As for the corsair it hasn't been out long enuf for alot of feed back. It is rated at cas2 while the other brands are rated at cas2.5 but it is also the most pricey.

hope that helps

Trieber

01-27-02, 07:36 PM

I have heard from friends that run regular systems, and those that run OC'D systems, say Corsair is pretty stable. But then again they can never really get farther OC'ing with it.

As for Kingmax, I haven't heard much about it, but if I get decide to get more RAM, I would place my bit on them and say a few prayers hoping the DDR RAM God sent me some 5 and not 7.5 chips...

LoL, crazy people.

Yodums

01-28-02, 08:33 AM

I'd say that you can't go wrong with either Corsair or Kingmax. Although OCZ has horrible memory, and their color ram looks disgusting :D

Yodums

Anon OC'er

02-18-02, 05:09 PM

I run the PC3000 @ 190FSB No problem. Although I do have to use all the 'relaxed' settings... SO, I'm gona go home and Benchmark with all the turbo settings and see how high I can get. I'll keep ya posted!

EclipseJP

02-19-02, 11:13 PM

I have some corsair 2400 memory. Its decent but wont run very high in turbo. But then again my mobo isnt the best for overclocking due to lack of memory voltage adj. It runs at 300 mhz no problem. But I personally would get some kingmax if I had to do it again.

Lou Natic

02-20-02, 01:55 AM

I have the Corsair 2400 DDR XMS (with the fancy heatspeaders on them). It seems to run quite well using very agressive timings, but I can't seem to get it past 144fsb without crashing XP at loadup. I think it's mostly to do with my Dragon +'s lack of vdimm adjustments also. I've heard in another forum Corsair put out some of their 2400 dimms with differing ram modules of different speeds. Had the nasty effect of causing total file system corruption. I am pretty sure this rare, or we'd have heard alot more about this on other websites.

Considering the price of Corsair compared to Kingmax ($97 compared to $137 on newegg.com), I'd get the Kingmax, especially if you have the chance to buy it at a store and look to see if you're getting the 5ns sticks. It's just way more bang for your buck.

Robert

02-21-02, 05:37 AM

In my system, I can set no more than about 170MHz FSB.

Paul.K

02-21-02, 08:41 AM

I have heard great things about Kingmax and Corsair PC2700 memory modules. However, I would luv to get my hands on some Kingmax but cant find a retailer who actually supplies the stuff, since I live in Ireland. Bummer !!!!

Paul.K

PS Anyone know of a supplier for europe???

NewbiePerson

02-21-02, 11:29 AM

uumm
this dude got 194 with ocz 2-2-2 please not he used a mobo for the pentium so that may have something to do with it
I think it was a gigbyte board
go to amdmb.com under the newest bits and pieces he reviewed kingmax and ocz3000
the kingmax got 184 I think
I would love to see a 3dmark on that

alinosa

02-21-02, 01:10 PM

if you guys ALL go to tweaktown.com and look around you'll find a direct comparison of samsung, crucial,ocz, and kingmax RAM. if you don't feel like going there, suffice to say that only kingmax and ocz could get TO 160 FSB and at every FSB (133, 140, 150, and 160) kingmax walked on the competition. they were using Sisoft Sandra 2001 memory benchmark for the comparisons and 3dmark 2001 to find the highest achieveable FSB's: kingmax=162 ocz=154, crucial=151, and samsung 148. Hope this gives you ALL a heads up as far as ram... i don't know what exact specs for the system they were using for testing are, but if you're that curious you can go there and see...:)

alinosa

Anon OC'er

02-21-02, 01:11 PM

I just got a reply from the guy that did that article... Seems he 'just set it to those settings, and it worked..."

I personally think he's FOS, but maybe he just got lucky. PC3000 wasn't designed to run at CAS2... In fact, sandra reports (I know) it as CAS2.5 up to 183, and CAS2.5 up to 100!!! I couldn't get it to run at CAS2 at 133!?!

Sooo, I wouldn't read this and think you can do 185 MHz with 2-2-2 timing. You might get lucky, but then again, I seem to be one of the lucky ones who can get this stuff up past 166...

Anon OC'er

02-21-02, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by alinosa
if you guys ALL go to tweaktown.com and look around you'll find a direct comparison of samsung, crucial,ocz, and kingmax RAM. if you don't feel like going there, suffice to say that only kingmax and ocz could get TO 160 FSB and at every FSB (133, 140, 150, and 160) kingmax walked on the competition. they were using Sisoft Sandra 2001 memory benchmark for the comparisons and 3dmark 2001 to find the highest achieveable FSB's: kingmax=162 ocz=154, crucial=151, and samsung 148. Hope this gives you ALL a heads up as far as ram... i don't know what exact specs for the system they were using for testing are, but if you're that curious you can go there and see...:)

alinosa

That review was for Kingmax PC2100, and I imagine it was comparing it against other PC2100 from Samsung, OCZ, and crucial.

Ritteri&Bubbles

02-23-02, 03:24 PM

Ive used em all. The Kingmax PC2700 is by far the most reliable and best OCing DDR period. I have hit 200+ mhz on my SiS 645 chipset with it, and it ran flawlessly.

Yodums

02-23-02, 09:20 PM

Also, OCZ doesn't use the same chips in every ram, so your gambling if your going to get a good stick of ram, or a bad one. It may take a few RMA's before you get a good stick.

Arkaine23

03-02-02, 05:39 AM

With OCZ PC2700, cas 2 & max timings at 152 FSB was the best I got, but I'm pretty sure my HDD was holding me back. The crappy WD HDD is dead now, so I'll try to get this memory higher when I install the replacement Maxtor HDD and get set up again. The OCZ is advertized as 6ns, the happy medium between the Kingmax 5ns/7.5ns gamble. I've noticed it seems people just hear a bad reivew and echo it sometimes, as this ram has worked well for me 2083/2134 Sisoft Sandra 2002 memory bench.

On a side note, I got a stick of PC2100 crucial in my girlfriend's computer up to 160 fairly effortlessly. But what do I know? These 2 sticks are the only DDR I've ever used.

Dracula

03-02-02, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by herbal'|'
I can't speak for Corsair, but I've tried both Kingmax PC2700 and OCZ PC3000. The Kingmax is by far the best ram I've ever owned. It will do 175+ at CL2 with the fastest timings. The OCZ PC3000 wouldn't do over 145 with those settings. The reason the Kingmax is better is because it has true 5ns chips, where as the OCZ has 7.5ns chips. I think the Corsair has 6ns chips, but I'm not sure. IMHO, the Kingmax PC2700 5ns is by far the best overclockable DDR ram to date.

U use the Kingmax 2700 at 175 at what vdim?

herbal'|'

03-02-02, 11:01 AM

I have hit 183MHz stable at 2.9v. I could probably go higher if I up the voltage even more.

Dracula

03-02-02, 11:07 AM

I have my crucial at 184 turbo cas 2 4 way 2 6 2 1t :D
I herad that kingmax modules do not like much volt. so...
But crucial does :D

herbal'|'

03-02-02, 11:12 AM

Wow, you got lucky. I have two sticks of Crucial, at max voltage, one will do 164, and the other 173. Crucial makes great ram, but every stick is different. I've had 3 sticks of Kingmax PC2700, all marked -05, all would hit over 175.

Dracula

03-02-02, 11:17 AM

I see u have the 00 bios... with that bios I can run 3dmark at 181 :D with out vdim mod.but if I kick in the vdim mod...I does not get to 184 :(. I run the old 02 bios at :D and vdim 184 fsb settings that I said before... vcore mod (vcore mod does not efect me oc mucht 1650--1670 :()

herbal'|'

03-02-02, 11:22 AM

No, i don't run with the l00, I haven't updated my sig in a while. I run the c18 BIOS, because it gives me much better scores with those settings. It also does not disable 4-way interleave when running with high FSB's. If 4-way is disabled, you can run at a higher MHz, but get much slower performance.