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Yes you did the multiplier mod and the FSB mod!
Good Job!
Although the time is just a start post it when its nearly done...
*His hands start shaking* I'm darn anxious Hallen!!!
*Takes a breather*
Keep me updated! Darn that thing is looking sweet.
3 hours 5 minutes
Nothing on the TV yet.
How are the temperatures doing on the chip?
Didn't you tell me the 1005 bios added like 8 degrees to the temperature?
Well I think that chip maybe doing 6hours minimum or 7hours maximum!
BTW: Hallen I'm finally at my brothers house :D
Yodums
By the way Hallen brief question:
Your multipliers are set down by the bridges?
And your FSB is being tuned up from the bios? - Probably is just curious.
Yodums
I think we'll come in less than 6. The time we start gaining should be starting soon.
Next picture I'll install MBM505 and check the temperature.
>Your multipliers are set down by the bridges?
Correct except this board has a DIP switch added which the BIOS overides the bridges if the L1 bridges are unlocked. They were unlocked by the pencil trick.
Add one 0.5 mm pencil to your box.
>And your FSB is being tuned up from the bios? - Probably is just curious.
Yes that's an approved Asus factory capability. 100 to 200 I think.
PCI and AGP /4 divisors are the problem so the fsb tops out at about 170 depending on how good all your stuff is. I've seen one person who got 172 I couldn't get that high with my stuff.
Harvey
How does this look for a farm? newegg has a two for the price of one sale on A7M266's.
Ah OK So basically when I get the rig Ill just tune down the fsb and install windows then crank it back up. My components are pretty ok to overclock:
GeForce 2 MX 200
3Com and Dlink Ethernet
SB Live! Sound Card X Gamer
TV Wonder when I need to plug it in and use it from my cousin.
Hmmmm.... Looks sweet.... Although the board has 1fsb increasements doesn't it? - Love that option if it has it.
The farm looks nuts.
I wonder if eventually the penceil lead will fade out or something ..
Yodums
Going to let it run out after this.
Temperature was 54.5C in the BIOS when I rebooted to install MBM.
Had two failed reboots. Panic. Pointed your case fan at the heat sink and it's running like charm.
These Austin T-Birds don't take the abuse that the Dresden's do. Fans are cheap MHz's.
You only get 1.
Is it being cooled with the retail AMD Fan? My temperature should be alot cooler since I got a lapped heatsink, and I'm going to add a table fan right on top of the volcano to suck in sort of a cooler duct.
The motherboard is 35 degrees? Yikes!
Whats the default voltage on this thing? 1.8v not too shabby.
Well enough chit chat I'll let ya test it for tomorrow and then I'll be fiddling with it by the weekend.
Regards,
Yodums
Final results.
Good night to you too.
Hope you have a great time skiing tomorrow (today?).
Harvey
We can't going skiing today, the weather is cold and there's no snow where I can see some grass :D The ski hill is going to be chunks of ice.
By the way that Seti time kicks arse! Your beat my cousins best time which was 5:58 and hes at 1.171 :D
Your cooling it w/ the AMD Retail fan?
Yodums
Sorry about skiing conditions but maybe you can help me out.
I woke up this morning and my A7V133 had rebooted during the night. Temperature was 55.5C and that's not the A7M266 1005 bump.
I'm using Volcano 6Cu without the plus.
Question: How do I lap the 6Cu.
Next question. I bought two sticks of KingMax PC2700 to go on the 8KHA+. Either it stinks or I'm doing something wrong. Do you know anything about the stuff on that board?
OK My next thread will be given some lapping instructions. Epox boards are good no doubt about it, and Kingmax is given a good reputation in the memory forums you should try both the Asus board and the Memory see if they can help you as Placid knows alot about the memory stuff. Did you set the CAS timing down and to turbo or so?
Yodums
Lapping is a pretty long process if done right you should shave off 3-5 degrees more if your not even using Arctic Silver. Although you should only lap the heatsink, dont get the idea to lap the core as many people shave nothing and killed their cores.
Lapping - Sanding down a layer into the alluminum to make a flat contact within the core and to reduce the use of thermal compound by abit.
What you need:
Glass - Size of a laptop keyboard.
Waterproof Sandpaper: 180grit, 200grit, 400grit, 600grit, 800grit, 1000grit, 1500grit and 2000grit.
You must need glass because it is 100% flat and you need to make it flat thus that surface is the best option to lap on. Waterproof sandpaper is needed because your going to be lapping the sandpaper being wet not dry to prevent scratches to the heatsink while the process as you want to take off the big sanding grinds that the manufacture leave as well. - My cousin has Volcano 6cu+ and he didn't do a very good job and he switched from Silicone Thermal Paste to ASII and he noticed 4 degrees within the first day and he had another day to see it drop again as Arctic Silver II settles in 48 hours.
Onto the lapping:
Get a bucket of water clean off the glass if its dirty. Removing the fan from your fan and the clips if its possible. If the clips aren't possible to remove get a small piece of string (I think flossing string and tie them up so they don't come in contact with the sandpaper once your lapping. You don't want your fan to be in there as you'll be wetting the heatsink and sandpaper so often 30secs to prevent heavy scratches in the heatsink.
Tip: This process is pretty long 2 hours or more should be spent if you watch TV then this would be a great time to do it
Now put the glass down with probably a towel down to support it. Then put the sandpaper on the glass from the bucket (Assuming it is wet). Now get the heatsink out of the bucket and put it on the sandpaper now its pretty straight forward from here, push the heatsink back and fourth (Up and down direction). You shouldn't be applying pressure to the heatsink as it can result into you pushing the heatsink into uneven areas. Where the heatsink will move back and fourth by itself and grind itself.
You must wet the heatsink and sandpaper probably every 30seconds. As I said to prevent scratches
Now then the start is very important you don't move to the next grit (Which supposidly is 400grit), until you sand down the first layer completely flat or else it would be useless to move on.
The 180 grit should sand down the first layer in about 1hour. Now the next grits are pretty easy. Using the same method each of the 400 grit and above should take 15mins each. The 1000, 1500 and 2000 should take 30mins each as it is a finish. Your lap should end up with a mirror finish where you see yourself.
Get isoprophyl clean the core and heatsink before applying the thermal compound. Especially the heatsink since metal maybe still on it.
You must let this thing dry get a family fan or a table fan and put it on top of it for like 2 hours before putting it on a chip or something just make sure it is 100% dry before putting it on.
If you aren't using ASII a local vendor should already supply it go and get it. Then to use as minimal as you can get a blade. Squeeze the ASII very gently onto the heatsink and then take the blade and take very little by little and then fill the core then rub the heatsink with a clear bag in figure 8's and up and down, side to side that way the ASII goes into all the minor scratches.
Take a lint-free cloth and wipe the bottom of the heatsink gently until its mirror again then the ASII should still be in the holes. Now you assemble your heatsink on which you already know.
Just make sure you don't move to 400 grit until you finish the first one. Make sure you wet it every 30secs. Make sure you clean off the metal at the end. Make sure you use the least possible thermal compound.
Sorry for the long thread :D
Good Luck
Yodums
Thank you for your tutorial. It's very complete. I'm going to take my dog for a long walk and then make out a shopping list. I hope I do better than my bridge cutting.
A couple of unanswered question from above:
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I used an OCZ(?) Monster II for the 166 fsb test. Mostly because it's easy on easy off as against installing any Volcano which requires a huge amount of pressure even with needle nose pliers.
When you are changing cpu's 10 or 12 times to get things right easy on easy off makes a difference.
I've gotten good results, not great , from the Monster so when everything was set I just left it on instead of replacing it with the 6CU+.
You can see from MBM that the fan is pulling only a puny 3k RPM's but I think it did good considering doing 8 hours of work with 6 hours of 166MHz processing.
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By Austin I meant aluminum connects green die vs Dresden copper connects purple die. Now Dresden makes everything copper and green and blue depending on which polishing machine they use.
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A7M266 has 1 MHz adjustment but it's a pain to set.
Hit enter.
Hit arrow down.
Hit enter.
Hit enter.
Hit arrow down.
Hit enter.
etc. etc.
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Now a question for you
What do you conclude from the two tests?
Everything is running again. Off to walk the doggie.
Cool dog Hallen is he freezing? :D
Well I think the tests are great, at least 2.5x better than mine. I look forward to playing with that chip.
Yodums
Speedy fast, where'd your signature go?
Too much cluter. Lose the train of thought.
I'm setting up a Web Site here:
http://harveyallen.netfirms.com/index.html
Free hosting.
Already got the for sale sign up on your cpu.:)
Originally posted by hallen
Too much cluter. Lose the train of thought.
I'm setting up a Web Site here:
http://harveyallen.netfirms.com/index.html
Free hosting.
Already got the for sale sign up on your cpu.:)
I see an SECC2 Pentium 2 thats it :D
XP end
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/bench.htm
Haha running from the box!
OK Good dang you bought a camera there too? LOL! - Very secure man
Where's my address? I can't see it :D
This is what my eMail looks like. It's all HTML. Don't you get something like it?
No because the link of the image is on your HDD thus the file isn't on my HDD to the same directory so its not showing.
Now I understand. How do you feel about learning to be a WebMaster? That's in addition to all your other activities.
Harvey
I know that from my days when I use to make webpages for my clans hehe!
Now thats all over and overclocking and computers is number one priority! :D
Yodums
Originally posted by Yodums
Now thats all over and overclocking and computers is number one priority! :D
Yodums
Does that include unlocking XP's?
Harvey
Originally posted by hallen
Does that include unlocking XP's?
Harvey
Nope :D
A7V133 is ok. Had the same overnight problem with the new A7M266 so it was either the power supply or the video card.
Tried a new power supply still had problems so I changed video cards and they're both running.
Left K7S5A, right on chair A7V133, right background A7M266.
Pair of A7M266's. One in case.
How hot is the room? Jeez you have alot of stuff
It's toasty. The gas heater hasn't had to do much lately.
Harvey
I wonder how long it would take for you to clean all of that up :D
Not too long. Put the mother boards back in their boxes. CPU's back into trays. Memory back into static bags. Power supplies in one big box. Keyboards cost 4.99, mice 1.49. Video cards and drives throw away.
3 monochrome VGA's Salvation Army. Main KDS-7311 17" color back into its box..
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1319281181
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1323022100
Modem are nice. Local store has a special PCI 56K A-Open FM56-PC $11.48 each.
Easy to skip town in an hour.
Harvey
Err question when you get back.
If the A7M has no reset bios how am I suppose to get back into the bios say if I were to turn the FSB up too high and it won't post or something without enought voltage etc.
That's always been a challange. The A7M266 is supposed to go to safe start if a boot fails because the settings are to high but that's not fool proof. I usually rely on Windows to give me an early alert because the system will usually boot but hang up loading Windows.
If you insist on going past that warning and get hung up there is always removing yhe battery as a last resort.
You'll get the hang of it.
Harvey
I see hopefully I'll get it right.
By the way did you include the case stickers? :D
>I see hopefully I'll get it right.
I'm sure you will. I've only had one board that locked up that I couldn't unlock and that was a MTH i820 piece of crap. If you want to waste your time I'll send it up.
>By the way did you include the case stickers?
I think there is one in with the CD. Nice "Powered by Asus" with a flying white horse.
BTW I returned the wu's from the 9.5 x 166 runs and I had two (2:52 and 2:43) sub 3 hours. I'm sorry I didn't go 9.5 x 168.
There seems to be a parabolic curve in performance of DDR at these levels i.e. each 1MHz fsb you add has the effect of increasing performance 1.09MHz.
The guy who made the A7M266 modifications had his running at 172 fsb.
An Interview with Arctic Silver
Or How Most Things I Knew About Cooling Were Wrong.
By Joel Hruska
Date: December 9, 2001
Earlier this week I had the privilege of interviewing Nevin House, owner of Arctic Silver, Inc. This is one piece that will test what you know about how processor temperature measurement takes place, what works keeping you CPU cool and what doesn?t.
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2001/december/011209_AS_Interview/011209_AS_Interview.htm
VHJ: What typical improvements do customers see when switching to Arctic Silver II? Nevin: The average temperature drop from switching to AS II from a standard heatsink compound is between 2-7 degrees Celsius. Obviously this is going to vary depending on the heatsink used and the type of CPU, but temperature drops of these amounts are considered average.
Sounds pretty good to me.
Yes its really worth the money if its applied extremely well with a very thin coat it'll drop probably 3 degrees. And upon Arctic Silver 3 thats another 2 degrees or so.
Although I just hate ASII when it maybe dries :(
Yodums
A7M266 @ 174MHz fsb KingMax PC2700. Teenie bit high on the busses.
Too bad the A7M boards didn't have a 1/5 divider or else nothing would really stop us. I guess the board has great potential for high PCI Bus speeds!
Sandra memory benchmark @ 174MHz fsb
Wow on your first memory bandwidth test what are your memory settings? Could you boot @ CAS2 timings and do a memory test?
How fast does NewEgg ship anyways and with what service (FedEx I'm guessing)?
The PC66 @100 is good :p
Yodums
PC66 @ PC100 CAS2 A7V133
Two TI -10
One Siemens -10
That isnt bad at all!
Yodums
That looks like a cool desk... Few boxes hehe seriously I need to try that in the basement or something!
Yodums
Cement blocks and a door work too if you have a hard surface to build on.
ITs cool you have a big door right beside it... Guessing it'll help since in the winter when the room gets a little hot you can just open a little bit of the door and it'll keep ambient under 20 or so!
Yodums
Which one did you take? The Airmail one I guess? So 7 days would sound right as you sent late monday!
I heard it is only insured until the border line of US and Canada only I'm not sure!
Yodums
Looks like were back to 166. 167 and 168 were to shaky even with CAS2.5 and sometimes didn't boot correctly with Windows Protection (Assuming my HDD or the max of the chip).
So I traded stablity and more memory performance and went back to 166 w/ CAS2.
Here:
I would think it's your disk drive. I've had good results with Quantum Fireball EL series:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2000954908
That was the one I used with the KingMax 2700 @ 174fsb.
I'll keep an eye out for one on eBay and see if I can pick up one at a good price.
Your Video card sould be ok. Is that a 2x? The implementation of 4x of the A7M266 is very good.
Overall, I think you will be getting 5:20 - 5:30 wu's as it stands now.
Harvey
Yep, awaiting the testing here!
Yes using AGP 4x :D
My HDDs are:
Fujitsu 15gig - I think its 5400rpm dunno!
Quantm AS 20gig 7200rpm
Just can't wait to get the test started and when I get some spare time from homework I'll begin the lapping for your heatsinks.
Until then I have homework see you back on in about an hour.
I'm going to bed. I got to get up at 6am to send/recieve wu's. I'd been getting up at 5am but I just had a second phone line installed so now I can sleep later.
Have a good night.
Nice work.
Harvey
P.S. Try booting at 168 with just the Quantum if you can.
Oh. Isn't that expensive? Should get cable or DSL or something :)
Good night my homework is done very early for some reason.
Yodums
I'd love to get DSL but Ameritech's roll out has been slow and they are still 2 miles away from my area. Cable is impossible because the company is AT&T and employees there don't want to add business because then they would have to work. I've been trying for a year to add premium to my basic service and it's been a waste of time.
Installing the second line cost about $100. US and monthly it will add about $10. US to my bill for unlimited local connection. So far my ISP doesn't mind me having two connections simultaneously so I seem to be set.
I should be able to comfortably do 100 wu's a day with this set up and if it looks like more I'll take a look at a satellite dish.
Harvey
You won't notice much from satilite since I heard it takes along time to travel back and fourth.
Darn that sucks that the ISP there are unavaliable or not willing to serve.
Yodums
The barber who cuts my hair has satellite and is using it to collect every movie ever made. When he connects every other user in Ohio's response slows to a crawl but he is getting cable speeds.
From his description of how he uses it I can see it as a good substitute for DSL/Cable.
Harvey
Morgan 1GHz @ 10 x 110 = 1100MHz. Cool son of a gun. Yodums style open window.
Morgan 1GHz @ 10 x 125 = 1250 on A7M266.
Easier to set up on the A7M266 that 8KHA+ is a stubborn board.
I love open window style :D
The chip looks sweet.
Yodums
IS the vcore maxed (1.9v) I'm guessing? DDR in the process too? :p Is it unlocked using the penceil or the conductive paint?
PS: Gunna try the famous clock the multiplier down and raise the FSB like you did on the Tbird that made it rolling :)
169fsb is buggy on the A7M so I was stumpted and thought it was my end then I tried 170fsb.
Now burning at that speed :D
Noticed about 20 in each category in Sisoft Memory that rised CPU benchmark stayed the same.
That's cooking Yodums. Just wait until the Morgan arrives. At that memory speed you'll be giving the mysterious Mr. Benz4140 a run for his money in the Best CPU Times category.
I have both Morgan's running now. I had to back down the 1250 to 1230 as the PC reset while I was out. The rough times are looking great even at 110 and 123 fsb. The XP core is just slicing through wu's like butter. I don't think the larger caches are all that important as long as your memory system is fast.
I'll get exact times tomorrow when I send in the wu's. Then I'll try unlocking the Morgans with a pencil. I have your package ready to go Friday.
Harvey
Hallen your PM Box was full but. Can you use the slimmest box possible to hold the HSF, AS3, and Morgan. I don't need the probe its ok!
Because if its too big I have to pick it up at the Postal Office and pay money and my wallet has a hole through it!
Yodums
PS:I'll try for 171 FSB tomorrow :D I seem to be getting a FSB after a day of burn in. *Takes a moment of silence for Seti*
Both Morgans boot into Win2000 on the A7M266 @ 10 x 125 but crash on Sandra. Both are stable @ 10 X 123 at highest vcore I can get.
Needs some more work to get to 1230MHz on the 8KHA+ but there the pencil trick works.
OK We'll see I can do once I jiggle around with water! :D
Clear yur in box Hallen.
Heres the best way to do it.
Your Inbox only contains like the lastest PM within the last 10 days by default, so you don't see all the previous PM' which you can't delete. Go to Private Message link in the User Control Panel.
Since your in your inbox click the drop down box with, "The Last 10 Days" to, "The Beginning." It should then display every PM in the Inbox. Then do it to the other two folders, which are Sent and Message Tracking.
I knew this trick awhile back when I kept on getting full Inboxes when I never did anything.
A7M266 1006 BIOS
Memory performance remains the same.
Temperature of XP now in high 40's. Maybe better reporting.
13.0 multiplier of Duron 1.3 would not power up with 1005. Maybe this has been corrected.
AK31A 166MHz fsb KingMax PC2700 CAS2
166 is the highest number the BIOS will take
The AK31 looks good, guess the 1006 bios don't help much, rather than the temps.
Hey on the second part of the memory (The second number) your beating Franks 203fsb! The first your short by 100 points. That looks like a FINE BOARD!
I sorta think the A7M has lack of memory utilization.
AK31A 164MHz fsb Crucial PC2100 CAS2
A7M266 164MHz fsb Crucial PC2100 CAS2
A7M266 170MHz fsb Crucial PC2100 CAS2
8KHA+ 153MHz fsb Crucial PC2100 CAS2
Just shoot
03-05-02, 08:43 AM
Don't mean to jump into this so late in the game, but what are you guys using for vid cards to get that high of FSB. The best OC card I've ever found was a Voodoo but they run so darn HOT:mad:. I'd be willing to by another vid card if I was assured they could handle the kind of front side buses you guys are getting.
P.S. would you twqo recommend the 1006 bios for the A7M and if so were did you get it I would like a link if I may. I've also noticed a higher temp. reading (8-10'c) after flashing to 1005.
Abit KR7A 159MHz fsb KingMax PC2700 CAS2
(Just Shoot Matrox Millinium G200 nothing fancy)
Abit KR7A 159MHz fsb KingMax PC2700 CAS2
http://www.ameritech.net/users/hallen45/setikr7a.JPG
racecar12
04-08-02, 07:29 AM
Ehhhh benches
Originally posted by racecar12
Ehhhh benches
Nice O/C. H2O?
Harvey
P.S. Have you tried the team benchmark?
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/benchmark.htm
racecar12
04-08-02, 12:06 PM
At the time of the benchmark, it was air cooled. It is now water cooled (http://racecar12.freehomepage.com/photo.html) Yes I got that benchmark mainly for comparison and tweaking purposes. I thought is would do better but this is the sis chipset and ddr and average times now for a .417 ar wu is 3.4 hours. I have a rambus m/b and some pc800 rdram, on the way, to see if I can better my setup:cool:
Originally posted by hallen
Nice O/C. H2O?
Harvey
P.S. Have you tried the team benchmark?
http://www.ocsetiteam.com/benchmark.htm
I'm guessing 3:05 at 1676MHz. I'd like to open it up some more and see if a sub 3:00 is possible but KR7A BIOS only goes up to 1.85V so I don't think H2O would be much help here.
Oh well I've got a couple of hours to look for a quick voltage mod.
edit: Hmmn. More work to do. This looks promising:
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/104343;5b74c42dc60d852282f6e9c605fe089a/8x2073460.gif
From this thread:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2937588~root=ocusa~mode=flat~start=0
hehe your not modding my board are ya hallen! :)
How the heck did they get to 3500?
racecar12
04-08-02, 05:26 PM
Hallen,
That looks mighty sweet but unfortunately it is not real world performance. The new sandra pro has tweaks you can set for mmx and sse that gives you crazy bandwidth scores like that. I know he is at 207fsb but positive that is not a default setting benchmark.
Originally posted by Yodums
How the heck did they get to 3500?
Here is the first part starting at 3000.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2857041~root=ocusa~mode=flat
xp1800+ agkga y 0144
9x multi not as effective as 8.5...either is 8x
hsf = swiftech mcx462 with 80mm delta for cpu...
ramsink = no heat-spreader or heatsink on ram...
Originally posted by racecar12
Hallen,
That looks mighty sweet but unfortunately it is not real world performance. The new sandra pro has tweaks you can set for mmx and sse that gives you crazy bandwidth scores like that. I know he is at 207fsb but positive that is not a default setting benchmark.
Racecar- It should be pretty easy to try to duplicate. He posts his settings here:
kat just run 9x190 sandra - here it is with the setting:
vcc = 1.85v
vio = 3.50v
vmem = 2.75v
cpu fast decode = fast
memory -
dram clock = 133
dram timing = manual
cas = 2.5
bank interleave = 4
tRP = 2T
tRAS = 6T
tRCD = 2T
dqs input = auto
dqs output = auto
dram queue depth = 4 level
drive strenght = lo
dram command rate = 1T
dclk feedback delay = auto
...sometimes a little bit more (voltage) is not a good thing...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,2970231~root=ocusa~mode=flat
What I'd like is to do the Seti benchmark at the highest bandwidth I can get. I only had a day to play with the KR7A before shipping it out.
Whatever Kat is doing, some of should come through to help run wu's in less time.
Harvey
Racecar, I think that is the real deal bro. I've seen a review on the new Epox 8K3A+ and they show it hitting 200fsb and it had a sandra score of 3000 something, and it was only CAS2.5... kat would pretty useful with PC3200 ram right now huh? :)
Yodums
racecar12
04-08-02, 07:18 PM
Really nice benchmarks and one heck of a bus speed. It should be a more than well worthy cruncher at that bus speed. Hope he does not corrupt the wu's at that bus speed(a little jeleousy shot). But I do test my systems by comparing the same wu at default and overclocked to make sure the results are the same so as to complete the work as fast as I can, yet still not corrupting the results of the wu. But still a very impresive machine.
Just formated my xp :mad: DL'ed a free dvd play inandated with gator spyware/adware. After removing the progy still had probs. Went thru the puter removing registry entries by gator and several other areas with no avail. Been about a month and slowly the puter has degrated to a point I can't stand it any more. Thank goodness for backups:cool:
Racecar- I was on the Seti@home message boards and
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb.cgi
one of our O/C club members was chastised for inadequate verification of accuracy.
HotCPU was suggested.
http://www.opusware.net/
I tried it and like it. Most of my O/C's are tame but for heavy duty I would do both HotCPU verification and benchmark comparison.
Bring on the H2O!!
Harvey
racecar12
04-08-02, 09:36 PM
I venture many forums and read almost constantly and post very little in comparison. I saw that thread where Richard J Keirle was talking about how oc corrupts the wu data and mentions that with hot cpu tester would show you your fpu degredation but he had never used the program himself. So that says alot to me right there.
I have been using that hot cpu tester progy for more than a year while testing my systems, and just like any other benchmark with an overclocked puter, everything is faster and better including my fpu:cool:
Racecar- I went back and read the rest of the Keirle posts. Pompous bas..... Thought of asking him about the PII-300 SL2W8 or the Athlon 1GHz AHYJAR but no sense in wasting bandwidth.
I do appreciate his introducing me to Hot CPU as it's a good tool to establish the sweet spot of a new system.
It will be interesting to see how your P-IV upgrade unfolds. I'm following Kat for now but nikhsub1 here on O/C has been making some nice moves too.
Hope you got Setiqueue working. It's a big help when it's doing it stuff.
Harvey
edit: Keirle thread:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/bb/bb3/bboard.cgi?action=display&num=1465
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