AMD CPU FAQ

[stompah]

Ok guys I have no clue who from the FAQ team is doing this but I will follow Flounder and start my own miniFAQ.


AMD FAQ (http://www.overclockers.com/tips650) Some of the questions that are answered in that FAQ:

1. How do I unlock my Athlon/Duron (covering both Slot and Socket A)?

2. Why can't my KT133 motherboard run at 133Mhz FSB, or even close to it??

3. What are good heatsinks for socket A chips?

4. What is the register 52 tweak and how do I do it?

5. What is a good motherboard for AMD processors?

6. What kind of power supply should I have for my AMD motherboard/processor?

7. What is the 686B bug, how do I know if I have it, and how do I fix it?

8. What is voltage modding and how can I do it?

9. Can I run a regular (non-C type) TBird or a Duron on a KT133A/(other chipset) board?

10. What is the "AMD recommended" list and how does it relate to me?

11. Why is my equipment not on the AMD recommended list?

13. How do I overclock my K6-X processor?

14. What are some things I can do to overclock my AMD X chip more?

15. My socket broke. How do I fix it?

17. What's the difference between all these different types of "Athlons" I see/hear about?

18. What are acceptable temperatures AMD Athlons/Durons? How do I view them?

20. What are the VIA 4-in-1 drivers? Where can I get them? Which version should I use?

21. My computer hangs when using Athlon, Windows 2000 and a program that uses AGP, how do I fix this?



decipher your CPUs codes here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa_id.html) or Try this one too (http://www.cluboverclocker.com/guides/amd_core/p4.htm)

Bridge guide for Athlons and Durons (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa/socketa_resistors.html.)
Bridge guide for TBreds (http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/socketa/tbred_painting.html)
Thanks to John C. for a listing of what the bridges on AMD CPUs do. (http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118659)

Bridge guide for Athlon XPs (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa/xp_painting.html)


Temps

For most of you should NEVER hit anymore than 45c under load and under 40c is preffered. The max you can run this chip is 90-95c depending on your chip.


AMD's FAQs:

Athlon XP FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_3876,00.html)
Athlon FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1008,00.html)
Duron FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1016,00.html)
K-6 FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1022,00.html)

AMD's recommended:

Recommended Athlon motherboards (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^2338,00.html)
Recommended Athlon heatsinks (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^1050,00.html)
Recommended Athlon power supplies (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^1053,00.html)

Recommended Duron motherboards (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^2344,00.html)
Recommended Duron heatsinks (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^1078,00.html)
Recommended Duron power supplies (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^1080,00.html)


A list of socket A heatsinks (http://www.heatsinkdatabase.com/main/00-socket.html) and a slot A heatsink list (http://www.heatsinkdatabase.com/main/00-slot.html)


Burning in

Some thoughts on the subject with a few programs (http://people.freenet.de/s.urfer/conditioning.htm) and a site with more programs and better links. (http://www.bhq.f2s.com/b_e.html)

Voltage mods for your motherboard

Check this here (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44195&highlight=voltmod)

EDIT: just thought I would add this (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1034,00.html) for people who want to return their retail CPU to AMD


A thread discussing techniques for unlocking AMD CPUs. (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66470)


Not done yet still more to come

Thanx to Flounder, Bender, Sickboy, Asmodean, and N2 (http://www.overclockers.com/tips650)

[flounder43]

Nicely done. Like I say at the beginning of mine, a FAQ need not be all encompassing, with answers to every question. Rather, covering the basics has been my goal. I only try to answer the Frequently Asked Questions. ;)


BTW, what's the pencil trick? :rolleyes:

[flounder43]

bump, how about a sticky?

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by flounder43

BTW, what's the pencil trick? :rolleyes:
using a pencil to close bridges on duron or athlon won't work on xp
no.2 pencil seems to work the best

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by stompah
Ok guys I have no clue who from the FAQ team is doing this but I will follow Flounder and start my own miniFAQ.

decipher your CPUs codes here (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa_id.html) or Try this one too (http://www.cluboverclocker.com/guides/amd_core/p4.htm)

Bridge guide for Athlons and Durons (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa/socketa_resistors.html.)

Bridge guide for Athlon XPs (http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html?/html/workshop/socketa/xp_painting.html)


Temps

For most of you should NEVER hit anymore than 45c under load and under 40c is preffered. The max you can run this chip is 90-95c depending on your chip.


AMD's FAQs:

Athlon XP FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_3876,00.html)
Athlon FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1008,00.html)
Duron FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1016,00.html)
K-6 FAQ (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1022,00.html)

AMD's recommended:

Recommended Athlon motherboards (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^2338,00.html)
Recommended Athlon heatsinks (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^1050,00.html)
Recommended Athlon power supplies (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1039^1053,00.html)

Recommended Duron motherboards (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^2344,00.html)
Recommended Duron heatsinks (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^1078,00.html)
Recommended Duron power supplies (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_1073^1080,00.html)


EDIT: just thought I would add this (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_861_1034,00.html) for people who want to return their retail CPU to AMD

Not done yet still more to come

Thanx to Flounder, eventually we will get a FAQ for every aspect of computers

how about bridges to get 14x and above W/t bird

[ElvishArcher]

nice FAQ

[flounder43]

Originally posted by res0r9lm

using a pencil to close brides on duron or athlon won't work on xp
no.2 pencil seems to work the best

Sorry, it was satire...the pencil trick is definately a FAQ...

[res0r9lm]

Is there a guide to increase multiplier using the bridges past
13x because can't get any higher than 13 with my mb

[flounder43]

The limitations are in the motherboard...I think that might be the current limit.

[res0r9lm]

yea but I was thinking that you could pencil in bridges to get higher

[flounder43]

The motherboard still has to generate the clock cycles...the crystal, I believe.

[res0r9lm]

ok thanks

[stompah]

OK guys I have added a few things.

[joatam316]

very nice and informative. Thanks a lot

[SickBoy]

I'm working up an update to the original AMD FAQ that my team wrote. I'll try to get it posted when I finish.

[stompah]

Originally posted by SickBoy
I'm working up an update to the original AMD FAQ that my team wrote. I'll try to get it posted when I finish.
COOL!!! I really need to make a section on XPs.

[goodolamd]

this is a good place for showing you how to play with the bridges on morgan durons www.ocinside.de

[stompah]

Originally posted by goodolamd
this is a good place for showing you how to play with the bridges on morgan durons www.ocinside.de

I cannot find any 'Morgan' specific bridge guides. I already have Xp and athlon/duron bridge guides listed in my original post. Did you miss them?



Does anyone know if morgans have different bridges?

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by stompah


I cannot find any 'Morgan' specific bridge guides. I already have Xp and athlon/duron bridge guides listed in my original post. Did you miss them?



Does anyone know if morgans have different bridges?


I believe they are the same as xp

[Durooom]

no their the same as the old duron I got one on sat and the only difference is the core is taller than it is wide

:D :D

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Durooom
no their the same as the old duron I got one on sat and the only difference is the core is taller than it is wide

:D :D
Do you remember how many bridges are on it. morgans have 5 of the L!

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Durooom
no their the same as the old duron I got one on sat and the only difference is the core is taller than it is wide

:D :D
If you have the same bridges as duron spitfire you are either mistaken or you got rip off.

[goodolamd]

i used the xp diagram on my morgan duron and it worked fine

[Durooom]

Originally posted by res0r9lm

If you have the same bridges as duron spitfire you are either mistaken or you got rip off.

No I've had Spitfires before I know the difference

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Durooom


No I've had Spitfires before I know the difference
well, the morgans and xp's use the same amount of bridges. morgan look like the spitfires just with more bridges. I'm just going by what I have seen from pictures. if you look at the picture I posted above you will notice alot more bridges

[Orc]

This FAQ stuff is jolly good...

Just found an answer to a question that puzled me for some time.
I remember reading some vague instructions for overclocking a Duron by cutting / connecting the various bridges but it didn't make it obvious why the other bridges besides the L1's needed to be altered.

[Lord_of_Decay]

Worth reading and first place to go for questions. Very nice post.:D :D :D

[Wraith]

im getting on my 2000+ average of 65 C and case temp of 120 F
i have a feeling this is bad?

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Wraith
im getting on my 2000+ average of 65 C and case temp of 120 F
i have a feeling this is bad?

your xp is getting way too hot. looks to me that your case airflow is the problem try adding some case fans. next time post in the right forum *hint* cooling forum

[Exar Jun]

I need to learn to look at the stickys more often. Thanks for the great thread.

[Kronarq]

same here first time i have looked at this..lol

[Simmer2002]

yeah i am a new member and wanting to build my own pc!After reading the beginners guide-Motherboards i was told to go to the forum and ask what the best buy was!Have u got any good suggestions?....

[erik sinsel]

Small errata for the FAQ... I think in number 5 under

Socket A, PC133 SDRAM BASED:

it's meant to say:

Abit KT7, KT7A and KT7E

instead of

Abit KT7A, KT7A and KT7E

Also, maybe this is just something people are supposed to know or most oc'ers think is obvious, but the FAQ stated in section 9 the problems/limitations of running a 100mhz fsb cpu in a kt133a set to 100 and 133mhz. But, is it true that you can run a 133mhz fsb processor in a 100mhz fsb motherboard, running at 100mhz?

This certainly is a performance reduction, like buying a v6 performance racer and disabling two cylinders, but not all of us can upgrade the whole show in one shot, and replacing a blown cpu with an upgraded one first is a good option..

There are some posts where people hint that this can be done successfully. But it seems like only one person actually posted success to the forum. Any chance of a blurb in the FAQ regarding "Can I buy a 266mhz athlon and run it in my 200mhz board with a performance reduction?"

[freddievtb]

A friend told me that a higher FSB would risk damaging my DDR
memory?
I use an XP 2000+ with Kingston DDR, 512Mb 2100 at 133mhz FSB.
Would setting the FSB at 140mhz for example damage my memory?

[Pinky]

Bump