View Full Version : ever put dielectric grease on the coldplate?
brgatesjr
01-25-02, 07:02 PM
I have a dual water cooled peltier system on a vp6 running two PIII 1.1e's @ 1307. I have tried everything I can think of to keep the condensation off my coldplate. I cut out the neoprene nice and neat put there always seems to be gaps. Frost and condensation build up there. I was wondering if it would work to cover the edges of the coldplate with d-grease to stop this from happening? Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have been a lurker on this board for a while and have tried to figure this out on my own til now.
Thanks,
Bruce
You should be fine as long as you don't get it on the contact areas of the pelt and cpu. You can even use the grease in the socket holes. I hope to see your around the boards more often. Don't feal affraid of posting any questions you have.
brgatesjr
01-25-02, 08:01 PM
Thanks for the info. This so far is the only real problem I have had. Other than having a usful hold down for the water block/pelt combo. The one that came from DanderDen was OK except when I really tried to clamp it down....snap...of came the retainer clips. I had to manufactur my own hold downs at that point. I modeled them after the AMD style. With a little JB Weld and some threaded nylon 1/4 bars I created a new hold down that I think works better than some I've seen for socket style...anyway I'm rambling now.
Thanks,
Bruce
So did your new clamp use the 4 holes around the socket? I hate clamps that rip off the little plastic clips. Is you bock a Maze1 then? The maze2 is really cool since it uses the 4 hole mounting system and it has a seperate clamping system for the peltier.
muddocktor
01-25-02, 09:03 PM
What I did with the P3 1.26S system I just put together is after I insulated around the socket, I cut a piece of 1/2" neoprene to sit around the coldplate, pushed down to the neoprene around the socket. It comes up about 1-2 mm higher than the peltier power leads. After I got the DD clamp mounted, I carefully pushed the neoprene around the coldplate and used a very thin layer of silicone seal between it and the coldplate/waterblock. So far I haven't had any condensation problems and I'm running at -8° C when under load, and even lower than that @ idle. Also, I agree that it is aggrevating to the extreme about the wires on the DD clip coming out of the top of the clamping mechanism. For a while I thought I was going to need 3 hands to install the clip.
Welcome to the forums brgatesjr! :D Bender covered the grease issue. I am curious as to the rest of your setup. I wonder if something is holding you back? Not trying to be condesending but the reason I ask is my dual 1.1s are at 1309 MHz with a pair of Glaciators.
brgatesjr
01-25-02, 11:31 PM
I am only getting down to about 12C under load right now. I think I could do better. MBM5 says my 12v is at 11.75 average. If that is correct then the pelts should be working right. I should be getting plenty of amps with my Enermax 650. I use DD Maze I's with cold plates and 80w pelts and ASII. The chips are set to 100 1/3 fsb plus 19. at 1.8v core. My RAM is PC133 not really sure what specs are. I have a large res with 1.8 gal distilled h20 10% anitfreeze solution using 250gph pump. Like I stated above though not very clearly I created a clamp down system using two threaded 1/4" nylon rods JB Welded to opposite sides of the socket. A piece of alluminum bar tapped with a 1/4" nylon threaded thumb screw applies centralized force on top of the water block. I am getting much great force than with the stock DanderDen clamp. After the tabs broke I had to improvize. Perhaps it is my OC settings any suggestions would be great.
Thanks,
Bruce
I believe more Vcore will help you get more speed. Mine is set at 1.95 volts although it reads as 1.91 volts.
brgatesjr
01-26-02, 07:20 PM
I was messing around with this as we speak. I upped the core voltage to 1.90 and the fsb to 129 1/4 now running at 1420mhz. I did a little teawing of my fans to improve temps also. added another fan to the rad cube. Now getting 35f iddle and 65f load I would like to get lower though. Even with the Vcore at 1.95 I was still not able to sqeeze one more mhz fsb out so I went back down to 1.90 anyway. Thanks for the help any other ideas would be great. Not bad dual PIII 1100E's @ 1420. Keep on tweaking!!!
B
Happy to be of service. I pulled the Glaciators today and installed a pair of Maze 1Cs. I won't know if it's stable for a couple of days but it's been running Prime and CPUBurn for the last hour without a hiccup at 1365 MHz.. A pair of pelts are next. Your results are encouraging! :D
brgatesjr
01-27-02, 02:16 AM
had one crash at 129 fsb so I dropped it down to 128 fsb rock solid for hours gaming on Civ3 (the greatest game ever) at 1409 both CPU's are 24C which I would like to have lower. Are these good temps for two maze I's cooler cube and a heater core with 1.5 g res. and 4 case fans and 80w pelts?
Thanks,
B
brgatesjr
01-28-02, 06:53 AM
had a few more hicups at 1400 so I bumped it back down to 1365. I think it is my temps for sure. Runs great for a long time but then when it the temps get up around 80f it reboots. My idle temps are so much lower around 35f. How can I keep my load temps delta a lot lower?
Thanks,
B
Sorry I missed this. To lower your temps you will need to cool your pelts more, i.e. the water or use a larger pelt.
BTW, I had to back off to 1333 MHz or 121 FSB. At 1356 my software runs fine but Prime and CPUBurn fail.
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