Heat Solutions!!

[AMD'er]

Whats up all, I need a few suggestions besides Water Cooling.

Heres the prob. I'm running a little warmer than what I would like to be running. CPU temp is usually around 66C to 70C and the Case temp is usually around 31C.

I'm running a Copper Heat Sink, Volcano Fan, total of 4 fans. 1 intake, 1 Out, 1 Power, and the one on heat sink.

What are some recommendations to cool it down and are these temps around normal or high?

[jbell]

that is way off! I would check your thermal paste compound - does it need some? is there too much?


lap the heat sink.. what brand is it?

invest in a Delta fan to cool your heat sink that definitly will help!

[Staz]

WOW that is high. are you sure those temps are accurate? what are you using to get those temps?

Also more info please. Like are you overclocking. what board are you useing. what cooler. type of grease.

P.S.
Next time post this in cooling.

[AMD'er]

by the way, those were the readings in the BIOS and no there is no overclocking going on. And my system is posted below in the sig.

[jbell]

Originally posted by Staz
WOW that is high. are you sure those temps are accurate? what are you using to get those temps?

Also more info please. Like are you overclocking. what board are you useing. what cooler. type of grease.

P.S.
Next time post this in cooling.

yeah I made a message that this needs to be placed correctly...

[Jeniva]

thats WAY to hot!..you need some major cooling there.
What type of HSF are you running?..you said just a "copper heatsink and a volcano fan" what Volcano?..the volcano 7? if so...clip off the thermistor and twist the wires together to get max speed from the fan at all times....if your not running a volcano 6cu+ or the 7..get a glaciatorII..or a pal 8045 with a delta screamer...look at my sig for my setup...A volcano6cu+ on an AMD 1700+(1.433GHZ)running at 1.650 GHZ, and temps are ALOT LOWER then yours!..Make sure your HSF is seated properly and that you are using Quality HS compound..like ASII...it will make a big difference[EDIT..WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!..and this needs needs to be moved to Cooling]

[jbell]

Originally posted by Jeniva
thats WAY to hot!..you need some major cooling there.
What type of HSF are you running?..you said just a "copper heatsink and a volcano fan" what Volcano?..the volcano 7? if so...clip off the thermistor and twist the wires together to get max speed from the fan at all times....if your not running a volcano 6cu+ or the 7..get a glaciatorII..or a pal 8045 with a delta screamer...look at my sig for my setup...A volcano6cu+ on an AMD 1700+(1.433GHZ)running at 1.650 GHZ, and temps are ALOT LOWER then yours!..Make sure your HSF is seated properly and that you are using Quality HS compound..like ASII...it will make a big difference[EDIT..WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!..and this needs needs to be moved to Cooling]


nahhh the CoolerMaster HHC-001 would give him sub-100F temps!

[VashTheStampede]

If you got the holes around the socket, I say go ahead and invest in a bigger heatsink (Along the lines of the Alpha PAL8045). You will eventually need a heatsink of that size, so why not go ahead and get it?

In the mean time, use some AS2 (Or more of it) and lap the base (If not already lapped) and make sure the heatsink is properly seated on the CPU.

~Vash~

[Jeniva]

Originally posted by jbell



nahhh the CoolerMaster HHC-001 would give him sub-100F temps!
maybe true...but my volcano 6cu+ gives me good temps...right now im running at 35C...not to bad for an overclocked Air Cooled system...and the Volcano 6cu+ is CHEAP...lol...Water cooling here i come

[Jeniva]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
If you got the holes around the socket, I say go ahead and invest in a bigger heatsink (Along the lines of the Alpha PAL8045). You will eventually need a heatsink of that size, so why not go ahead and get it?

In the mean time, use some AS2 (Or more of it) and lap the base (If not already lapped) and make sure the heatsink is properly seated on the CPU.

~Vash~ if you dont understand "lapping"..then some of the guys here can tell you...Basically its sanding the HS bottom with sandpaper starting at about 600-800 upto 1600+ WET/DRY..that will flatten the bottom of the HS and allow it to make more conatact with the CPU core...alas..better heat transfer and better cooling....just make sure to use a FLAT surface to sand with...

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Jeniva
thats WAY to hot!..you need some major cooling there.
What type of HSF are you running?..you said just a "copper heatsink and a volcano fan" what Volcano?..the volcano 7? if so...clip off the thermistor and twist the wires together to get max speed from the fan at all times....if your not running a volcano 6cu+ or the 7..get a glaciatorII..or a pal 8045 with a delta screamer...look at my sig for my setup...A volcano6cu+ on an AMD 1700+(1.433GHZ)running at 1.650 GHZ, and temps are ALOT LOWER then yours!..Make sure your HSF is seated properly and that you are using Quality HS compound..like ASII...it will make a big difference[EDIT..WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!!..and this needs needs to be moved to Cooling] your putting about the same amount of heat as a
1.4 t bird. temps are never accurate if reading from socket. I have read that shuttle can be off by 10c

[Jeniva]

that is true..shuttle as well as ABIT and ASUS are WAY off on therer thermistor temps...thats why i use a digital Thermal probe....after touching the Core of my cpu for 3 mins (to stabalize temps) my cpu reading was 37C...my mobo reads it much higher..about 45C..and i know its not that hot
[ EDIT:lol...well it better not be that hot..or this $45.oo probe is a major waste of money]

[AMD'er]

thats what I'm running. Its a T-Bird 1.4 with a thermal (something) fan "can't remember off the top of my head". I believe that I need to add some more HS compound. But ever since I've had this sys. its always ran a little warm for my fancy.

P.S. I've been looking for a more accurate way to read the temp. There has been some great differences between some software I've tried and the reading in Bios.

[ColdMiser]

OK here's what you do. Follow closely cuz this gets complicated:
First, invest in a very high quality pair of bowling shoes. What's that you say? You already have several pairs? Great then, you're way ahead of the game. Next, turn off your computer. Your CPU will rapidly drop to ambient temperature. Now, crack open a Sprite, add a dash of Bacardi O, and head on down to the bowling alley with all of your shoes. And your glasses. So you have them. The fly honeys down at "da lanes" will swoon.

You can thank me later. And don't Bogart all that Bacardi.

[Jeniva]

Originally posted by AMD'er
thats what I'm running. Its a T-Bird 1.4 with a thermal (something) fan "can't remember off the top of my head". I believe that I need to add some more HS compound. But ever since I've had this sys. its always ran a little warm for my fancy.

P.S. I've been looking for a more accurate way to read the temp. There has been some great differences between some software I've tried and the reading in Bios.

well...software like MBM5 use the same thermistor temps that your BIOS uses for its "PC health status" or what ever its called in your BIOS...you need to get a more accurate reading...get a digital thermal probe..radio shack and other electronic stores carry them for reasonable prices...you can mount a thermistor touching your CPU core(but NOT between your core and HSF) to get more accurate readings....If i were to rely on my MBM5 statistics...id think my system was nice and COLD all the time..as in 28-32C...I wish!!

[AMD'er]

Some O wit Sweet TEA is always the best:beer:

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Jeniva
that is true..shuttle as well as ABIT and ASUS are WAY off on therer thermistor temps...thats why i use a digital Thermal probe....after touching the Core of my cpu for 3 mins (to stabalize temps) my cpu reading was 37C...my mobo reads it much higher..about 45C..and i know its not that hot
[ EDIT:lol...well it better not be that hot..or this $45.oo probe is a major waste of money]
Yea I spent lot of $$$ trying to get my duron cool would peak at 45c even pelt and water 24c according to mb. I know it was a lot cooler than that because back of mb had condensation on it. now I just ignore temp unless it is way up there. heck when I swiched to 1.4 temp only went up 2c. does airflow affect those probes.

[JetMech]

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Never compare your temp reading to the Bios. The temp indicated in bios is always higher than real world. There is an article in CPU(Computer Poweruser) Magazine for January that explains this. I loaned my copy this weekend so can't give specifics. Maybe someone else can pick up on this.

[Silver]

I see you are from Atlanta, as in Atlanta, Georgia? I am in Gainesville. Temps are definately high as is the case temp. House temp right now is 22.3C. Your case temp is 31c? I am presently running this 1.4 at 1.71 at 2.22v and have a case temp of 20C and cpu temp of 37C. Now I admit I am using water cooling, however with an aluminum heatsink I had to back it off to 1.45 in order to keep the temps in the 45C range. The T-bird 1.4 does run hot but you are a little over the edge there. All of the guys suggestions are valid. Make sure you are getting good ventilation as well. Case is not in a closed in area? Case temp is high indicating to me a poor air flow in addition to possibly heat sink/compound?

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by Silver
I see you are from Atlanta, as in Atlanta, Georgia? I am in Gainesville. Temps are definately high as is the case temp. House temp right now is 22.3C. Your case temp is 31c? I am presently running this 1.4 at 1.71 at 2.22v and have a case temp of 20C and cpu temp of 37C. Now I admit I am using water cooling, however with an aluminum heatsink I had to back it off to 1.45 in order to keep the temps in the 45C range. The T-bird 1.4 does run hot but you are a little over the edge there. All of the guys suggestions are valid. Make sure you are getting good ventilation as well. Case is not in a closed in area? Case temp is high indicating to me a poor air flow in addition to possibly heat sink/compound?

how the h!@# can case temp be colder than ambient temp

[exhaust18]

Just hook it up to your air conditioner.

[Silver]

Originally posted by res0r9lm


how the h!@# can case temp be colder than ambient temp

Not too hard to do with circulating air on a 3.5x4 water block with colder than ambient water inside of the case. Also computer sits on floor and ambient is at 4 foot.