whats after 64bit and...

[just dan]

whats after 64bit, and how much memory can it utilize?

[petteyg359]

Until somebody figures out quantum electronics, everybody's stuck with powers of two, therefore the next iteration after 64-bit would be 128-bit.

2 ^ bits is total addressable Bytes.

2 ^ 8 b = 256 B
2 ^ 16 b = 65536 B = 64 KiB
2 ^ 32 b = 4294967296 B = 4194304 KiB = 4096 MiB = 4 GiB
2 ^ 64 b = 18446744073709551616 B = 18014398509481984 KiB = 17592186044416 MiB = 17179869184 GiB = 16777216 TiB = 16384 PiB = 16 EiB

I'd say we won't see 128-bit for decades, but sometimes it is better not to bother guessing. Bill Gates said 640k was enough for anybody, after all...

[just dan]

Until somebody figures out quantum electronics, everybody's stuck with powers of two, therefore the next iteration after 64-bit would be 128-bit.

quantum electronics hmmm gonna have to learn that after i build a new reactor :)

[McLovin']

I was reading about Snow Leopard which is going to be 64-bit, and is going to be able to support 16TB of memory, maybe it is the same for windows. I dont think there will be a need for awhile.

[Bobnova]

Hell, 64bit CPUs and such can address something in the hundreds of terrabytes, it's going to be a while before we run out of room.

[petteyg359]

Hell, 64bit CPUs and such can address something in the hundreds of terrabytes, it's going to be a while before we run out of room.

Did you read post #2? Try 16 million terabytes, or 16 exabytes. That's binary terabytes/exabytes (sometimes referred to as tebibytes/exbibytes), in multiples of 1024, not 1000.

[18 is # 1]

whats after 64bit

65 ;)

[petteyg359]

whats after 64bit

65 ;)

Only if it is Commodore. I wish I had a Commodore 65...

[RJARRRPCGP]

Bill Gates said 640k was enough for anybody, after all...

LOL

[Robbman]

Bill Gates never said that... no one has ever provided a source, print or otherwise to prove it either.

[jason4207]

Until somebody figures out quantum electronics, everybody's stuck with powers of two, therefore the next iteration after 64-bit would be 128-bit.

2 ^ bits is total addressable Bytes.

2 ^ 8 b = 256 B
2 ^ 16 b = 65536 B = 64 KiB
2 ^ 32 b = 4294967296 B = 4194304 KiB = 4096 MiB = 4 GiB
2 ^ 64 b = 18446744073709551616 B = 18014398509481984 KiB = 17592186044416 MiB = 17179869184 GiB = 16777216 TiB = 16384 PiB = 16 EiB

I'd say we won't see 128-bit for decades, but sometimes it is better not to bother guessing. Bill Gates said 640k was enough for anybody, after all...

You and your GB GiB. What's that in Binary and Hexadecimal?


:)




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[Jorlain]

Honestly, in the grand scheme of things, 64 bits isn't all that impressive.

64 bits = 8 bytes

Which looks something like this

00010000-00010000-00010000-00010000-00010000-00010000-00010000-00010000

8 Bytes x 8 bits per byte = 64.

There's a lot of headroom there.

[deadlysyn]

You and your GB GiB. What's that in Binary and Hexadecimal?


:)




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Hey its not our fault HDD manufacturers are being sued for marketing their products the right way. Just remember hard drives are marketed in GB (base 10) and memory is mis-marketed in GB but is actually GiB (base 2).




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Just had to say it in good fun.

[jason4207]

Hey its not our fault HDD manufacturers are being sued for marketing their products the right way. Just remember hard drives are marketed in GB (base 10) and memory is mis-marketed in GB but is actually GiB (base 2).




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Just had to say it in good fun.

It's actually Windows that has caused all the confusion.

My HDD says 300GB, but Windows says 279GB where it should say 279GiB. But if you look at the right screen in Windows and read it right you'll see 299,961,937,920 bytes which is close enough to 300,000,000,000 bytes for me not to care.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6158/300gb.jpg

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[deadlysyn]

It's actually Windows that has caused all the confusion.

My HDD says 300GB, but Windows says 279GB where it should say 279GiB. But if you look at the right screen in Windows and read it right you'll see 299,961,937,920 bytes which is close enough to 300,000,000,000 bytes for me not to care.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6158/300gb.jpg

:beer:

Very true, but it only takes 15 seconds on Google for anyone with these frivolous lawsuits to get the idea of what is really going on. Or, MS could just recode the next OS so that it reports the HDD capacities right, and then we wouldn't have these kind of things happening. I do remember the last time I had booted a Ubuntu Live CD, it was showing everything in GiB and GB, respectively.

Back on topic, I think that 64 bit is going to be as far as we go for quite some time. Given the amount of memory that can be addressed by a 64 bit system, I don't think our desktop systems will need any kind of support beyond that for a long time.

[MadMan007]

Very true, but it only takes 15 seconds on Google for anyone with these frivolous lawsuits to get the idea of what is really going on. Or, MS could just recode the next OS so that it reports the HDD capacities right, and then we wouldn't have these kind of things happening. I do remember the last time I had booted a Ubuntu Live CD, it was showing everything in GiB and GB, respectively.


That would require the average moron to know and understand wtf the difference between decimal and binary prefixes is though when they can hardly understand the basic parts that make up a PC. It would be great if the majority weren't stupid but as things are we're best leaving the 'mysteries' to geeks like us.

[jason4207]

Yeah, most people don't even know the difference b/n KB, MB, and GB. And even a lot of folks on here get them mixed up.

[deadlysyn]

In that case we can expect more frivolous lawsuits, since we all know the MS cult isn't going to do anything about it. Sometimes I wish they would learn from the Linux guys.