Hi PLEASE CAN SOMEONE WITH AN ATI GRPAHICS CARD HELP ME!! please im so stressed?

[umarrehman187]

Hi PLEASE CAN SOMEONE WITH AN ATI GRPAHICS CARD HELP ME!! please im so stressed?
ok ive got an ati grpahic card....and have the ati control center.....i went on ati overdirve and the max i can get is 830 gpu clock

and memory clok on 1000

ryt first they were set to 780 gpu clok
and 950 memory clok


i selected auto tune and it changed it and said these are recomended settings and they are

820 gpu clok
and 990 memory clok


is this safe i jus cliked auto tune shall i change it back please help plus are the recomended settings better will they make my gprahics better?

[Bobnova]

Keep an eye on the temps with HWmonitor or another temp. monitoring program. <90*c you're ok, <75*c and you're golden.

Higher clocks give higher frame rates, the quality aside from the frame rate is exactly the same.

[EarthDog]

Its fine usually if it recommends it.

SPeeding it up wont really make your graphics better, just more frames per second.

[nd4spdbh2]

BECAUSE YOU TYPE IN CAPS DOESNT MEAN THAT PPL WILL RESPOND TO YOUR POST QUICKER.

like stated... watch temps, make sure there rnt n e artifacts.

[umarrehman187]

mmm sorry but what do u mean 'artifacts' my temps are ok they are usually round 40's n 50's is tht ok

[x30Jx]

First off, take a nice, deep relaxing breath. It is a COMPUTER. These things do not understand anger, and will not work better no matter how hard you try to convince them with fits of rage or tears. Don't get stressed.

An artifact is a suspended element, like a shadow of something where there should be a clear image of something else. These often appear in large chunks on the display, vibrate, and sometimes move around. Overclocking a card can cause faults in calculations, making an artifact. See this Wikipedia article: CLICK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_artifact)

Bobnova's post was the most informative, but I rather doubt that your temperatures are that good with that kind of overclock. If you can manage, post a screen shot of your temperature monitoring program.

[umarrehman187]

i will give you guys a screenshot of my temps and just to tell when i play crysis its around 64 i play crysis on all high but i will give you a screenshot ok.....however just to make things clearer i havent overlcoked it...i just used my ati control center and clicked on auto tune and it found the most suited recomended settings with my system wich were 820 gpu clock and 990 memory clock...but i will try and upload a screenshot.....

[x30Jx]

Oh, so you want to know if the settings ATI Control Center suggested were appropriate for your card?

[umarrehman187]

yes yes yes that is what i was askin lol i clicked auto tune and it found the optimal settings for my comp it was obvioulsy higher then they were set before? so yes thats my question??


are they clock speeds to high? are thye bad? thts my 2nd question and thanx for helpin me out dude!

[x30Jx]

No problem. I am not a GFX card expert, but from what I know, ATICC does it's job well and does not often lie or overstate. So yes, go ahead and use the recommended settings. They sound about right for that card on stock cooling.

The recommended auto tune settings are safe overclock values, so they are by definition higher than the original settings. That is why you will see a performance increase. But when you overclock, watch your temps like a hawk and play some video to check for artifacts like has been previously said.


But I have high school tomorrow and it is quarter past zero here, so good luck and I will check in tomorrow to see how you did.

Best wishes,
Joe

[BenF]

Welcome to the forums!

I apologize if I'm coming off as rude but proper sentences make reading much easier. What graphics card do you have? Based on your stock clocks I'm guessing you have a 4870. On stock cooling they will usually max out between 800-830 on the core. The mem will usually max out around 1050-1200.

To find out if the clock speeds are too high you need to do some stability testing. You need to test what temps you reach and you need to test if you get artifacts. I'd recommend using a program like furmark as it does both (link: http://downloads.guru3d.com/FurMark-v1.6.5-download-1965.html). Let that program run and monitor your temps. If you get much over 75°C then I'd say the settings are a bit too high or you need to turn the fan speed up (up to about 30% is very quiet, around 50% it'll start to get a bit noisy. Turn it up as high are your comfortable with). If you get artifacts on your screen then your clock speed is too high. I'd then recommend playing the games you like to make sure you are stable in those too. Different programs react differently to overclocking.

I would advise you against using auto tune. You should manually adjust your clocks to find the max speed. First set both the core and the mem to stock speeds. Then bump up your core speed 10-15mhz and run furmark for 10-20 minutes to test. If you get no artifacts then bump the core up another 10-15mhz. Keep repeating this until you get artifacts, computer BSODs, crashes, ati drivers reset in windows etc. At that point back your core down 10-15mhz and write down the speed its at. Then set everything back to stock and repeat the whole process but with the memory this time. When your memory maxes out back it down 10-15mhz and write that speed down. The two speeds you have written down are most likely stable but you should play the games you like to double check them.


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I prefer to manually adjust my settings as I usually get better results. In the past I've found the auto tune for ati and nvidia gives me different clock speeds every time I run it. I prefer to know exactly where my card maxes out rather than having a program give me inconsistent results. I have also found that auto sometimes gives me settings that aren't stable. I'm not sure how much this has improved in resent years (I haven't used auto tune in since I first got my nvidia 6800 back in 2004)

[umarrehman187]

hey thanx dude...i have an ati radeon hd 3870, it is with stock cooling

[oakstave]

I've had two of those cards My max overclock on them was 875/1300, crossfired, and stable over several runs of 3dm06. So you probably have some room to move up. 860 core should be no problem unless your room is 90f.

Edit: I should probably mention that this card was reflashed with the XXX Edition BIOS, which had better fan control... that may have made a big difference in the final OC.

As mentioned, don't use autotune... ever.

I was benching that card for bragging rights... but really I saw very little difference in gaming on an OC. And some games simply wouldn't tolerate the overclock.... Supreme Commander comes to mind. I'm just letting you know that it IS possible to burn up your card, or seriously shorten it's lifespan if you aren't careful, and the benefits are often small.

Do your research. This is a great place to start!

Good Luck. :)

[umarrehman187]

well ive tried everything to overclock my asrock n68 even tho it has untied overclock technology whenever i overclock it never works, pc is on but screen is off, so i have to do all the cmos thing....question is i got a software asrock oc tuner wich came with my motherboard can i use that you guys think its safe?