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LufbraDan23
09-05-09, 07:41 AM
Well on my day off last week i took the 40 minute drive to the nearest computer related retail estate. It really is slim pickings where i live so i have to make do with PC World and Maplin. For those outside the UK- PC World is the biggest highstreet retailer of computers in my part of the world, in fact it might be the only major nationwide chain of computer stores in the United Kingdom. Maplin is an electronics store that sells components for everything and anything, including computers. You can find most things in there but it really is a last resort store to most people. I kind of like it but i am suprised that they managed to stay in business when half a dozen retailers collapsed at the start of the 'credit crunch'- i hate that term btw.

Anyway, Maplin was as expected, a few random components like HDDs, optical drives and a couple graphics cards (ati 3870s for £100, which is 4870 price). PC World however really wound me up. I honestly cannot think of anything i would ever purchase from there. Think about it, its the only high street retailer we have and i wouldnt give them a penny of my business. Heres why- pricing, advice and stock.

I was on the lookout for an i7 or Core 2 Quad. I've nearly pulled the trigger on an i7 online many times but i was in a 'physical buying' mood and just holding the box wouldve swung it for me. I saw a section headed 'Components' and headed over. There were 5 or 6 shelves high, taking up about 20 feet of floor space and a mere 3 boxes. Yes, 3 boxes. An overpriced HDD, an optical drive again and the 2.33ghz Core 2 Quad 8200. I'm not even joking- it had £230 stuck on it. I was stunned. A salesman came over as i was examining the box to be sure of the outrageous price. He asked me if i 'needed some help', i actually laughed. He looked quite offended and traipsed away.

Now pricing is always going to be crap in the highstreet, i accept that. But what i can't abide by is ripping people off for trash they don't need. I overheard, whilst browsing the £1200 i7 920 based desktops (could be built for £600), a young girl about my age being sold a laptop with integrated graphics "saves on space" then being duped into taking out 'Tech Guys support' and 'Online storage bank' for nearly £100 extra. Now i'm sure 'tech guys' are good computer technicians, better than i am, but i'm also sure that the cover they supply under the package you buy from the shop will tie their hands to only carry out 'chimpanzee repairs' before charging you. An online storage bank is a joke too.

The girl walked off with a big smile on her face after being duped to the tune of nearly £600 for mediocre laptop and unnecessary add-ons. PC World stay in business because they exploit the less technologically adept public.

Does anyone else in the UK resent PC World? Maybe you love them? Maybe you are a 'Tech Guy' and actually provide an excellent service?

Theocnoob
09-05-09, 11:30 AM
I don't know anything about UK retailers but I do know that here in Canada all three major computer parts/computer retailers hire people who, in my opinion, likely need to remember to breathe in and out constantly lest they lapse into a coma.

Their solution for everything is to reformat a hard drive- all of them. There was actually a TV special done in the USA a couple of years back to see how bad major retailer PC repair was. They unplugged the PATA (again, few years back) cable from the HDD and sent it in. "It won't boot"

Only one of the five retailers caught the problem. The others said crazy things like 'MOBO dead, RAM dead, HD dead". Things you could not have possibly concluded- especially not having opened the case, which obviously only 1/5 did.

As per pricing, also, yes, the major retailers here charge comically high prices.

Online storage banks crack me up too.. It's like "Hey, you do realize between just your ISP and GMAIL you have over 50GB on average right?"

markp1989
09-05-09, 01:17 PM
im from the uk, and i would never buy stuff from them, just look on there website, you will se limited items, at inflated prices.

maplin are not to bad, some of there stuff is overpriced, but they do have some good sales on.

alot of them online storage banks are a joke, i saw 1 before , cant remember the company or cost. that offered 50gb storage capacity, but in the small print, you could only download 2gb a month from them, so if you did back up 50gb of your most precious data,and had a drive die on you, then it would take like 6months to get it all back. you would be better to buy a 1tb hard drive from ebuyer for 50 quid and keep it at work or at a friends/family members house.

Badbonji
09-05-09, 01:34 PM
I never buy expensive hardware anywhere but online now, so much cheaper and easier. Novatech and Overclockers UK offer decent prices. I went into PC World a couple of weeks back and saw a 1Tb drive for £80-90, whereas on Novatech you can buy a 1.5Tb for £70-80...

antipesto93
09-05-09, 02:36 PM
i live in NE london, and only have a pc world and maplin near me, and they really dont know anything! i went with my mum once to buy a laptop for her and they talk a load of ****!
now i buy everything online ther are some very good retailers

ebuyer.com very reliable and cheap, next day delivery in 12 hours sometimes!
scan.co.yk
novatech
quietpc.com
ocuk
overclockers.com( very good)
dabs

i also find useing google products uk is quite good
or buying stuff from the classifides on this forum and importing to the forum, i did this for my i7 920 and saved 80 pounds ( 200 dollars in usa, 200 pounds in uk! )

Badbonji
09-05-09, 05:53 PM
i live in NE london, and only have a pc world and maplin near me, and they really dont know anything! i went with my mum once to buy a laptop for her and they talk a load of ****!
now i buy everything online ther are some very good retailers

ebuyer.com very reliable and cheap, next day delivery in 12 hours sometimes!
scan.co.yk
novatech
quietpc.com
ocuk
overclockers.com( very good)
dabs

i also find useing google products uk is quite good
or buying stuff from the classifides on this forum and importing to the forum, i did this for my i7 920 and saved 80 pounds ( 200 dollars in usa, 200 pounds in uk! )

Likewise with my i7 965! Only set me back £600-700

LufbraDan23
09-05-09, 05:55 PM
Glad i'm not the only one perplexed by our high street retailers.

What is this talk of cheap parts through 'importing to forum'? Talk me through it, i have a few quid to upgrade with :)

antipesto93
09-06-09, 01:41 AM
Glad i'm not the only one perplexed by our high street retailers.

What is this talk of cheap parts through 'importing to forum'? Talk me through it, i have a few quid to upgrade with :)

the thing is it only really works with smaller items, i reecently purchased an ipod touch for $110 on the cassies and they are useually 100 pound ( used on ebay)

for things smaller than a cpu box, it only costs about $10 shipping, even when i got a true 120 it only cost 12 dollars p&p :)

LufbraDan23
09-06-09, 04:39 AM
So if i found an i7 cpu on the classifieds here and imported it i could make a £50ish saving?

antipesto93
09-06-09, 05:20 AM
Yeah..just. contact the seller about shipping

It would be a lot cheaper if you ask him not to send the oem heatsink...unless you need it :)

sandyduff
09-06-09, 12:35 PM
Yup i agree completely... i HATE pc world... i havnt been there for years, the last time i went i confused the sale guy because i think i was asking too complicated questions...

My brother used to work in PC world... he got paid extra if he managed to sell extras to customers... thats why they are so keen to sell you the extra crap that you dont need...

i hate pc world.... i wish they went into administration...

>HyperlogiK<
09-06-09, 01:11 PM
Back in 2004-2006 when the pound was stronger against the US dollar one of the guys from a computer club I was a part of used to troll the classies of computer forums and then eBay the stuff in the UK. He actually made enough cash that he did it instead of having a student job.

LufbraDan23
09-06-09, 02:28 PM
Back in 2004-2006 when the pound was stronger against the US dollar one of the guys from a computer club I was a part of used to troll the classies of computer forums and then eBay the stuff in the UK. He actually made enough cash that he did it instead of having a student job.

Yeah, i can see that working. It's a shame it's all gone the other way since.
I'm actually in the states at the end of the month for ten days and i had planned to get newegg to deliver to the hotel, however the exchange rate means i won't save much if anything. Are there good high street retailers in the states?

antipesto93
09-06-09, 02:41 PM
When I went on holiday in the us two days ago I purchased 3 extra i7 920's ( I asked seperate family members to buy them). And it pounds they work out at 130.00 per i7 920....I came home and sold them for 200 pounds each = 210 profit = the money for my i7 rig hehe

I find buying things of the classsies here and ebaying them can be very profitable..but mostly only on small items so the postage is no more than 10.00 I have done ipods and ssd's in the past

And also just purchased an true 120 that cost about 60 pounds in the uk but I got iy shipped to the uk for 65 dollars

The extrange rate is poo right now :(