OC 3dmark2k1 team?

[Dissolved]

would anyone wanna make us a team?

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Dissolved
would anyone wanna make us a team?

What would I have to do?

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by TranceBear


What would I have to do?

send 100 dollars to dissolved@LOL.com
j/k
naw, we could like make a lil webpage and list our scores and whatknot..
im a 3dmark nut, and i curently hold the highest score for an oc'd ti500 w/ a 1.4tbird at default.. im like #12 for all ti500's 14oo and under..
just an idea.. i think itronc has a team..

[Malakai]

im down, my scores only 3700somethin now but im gettin a goldensample ti200 and the xp1800+ and at least a 150fsb at 2-2-2 and i should be able to get the XP to 1.8ghz, so ill have a great score!

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Dissolved


send 100 dollars to dissolved@LOL.com
j/k
naw, we could like make a lil webpage and list our scores and whatknot..
im a 3dmark nut, and i curently hold the highest score for an oc'd ti500 w/ a 1.4tbird at default.. im like #12 for all ti500's 14oo and under..
just an idea.. i think itronc has a team..

The check is in the mail...LOL. I am game for whatever. I just RMA'd my 8500 so I will be back to tryin to hit 10,000+. Let me know

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by TranceBear


The check is in the mail...LOL. I am game for whatever. I just RMA'd my 8500 so I will be back to tryin to hit 10,000+. Let me know

well i get my 1900+ tomorrow i hope, so ill join the 10k club as well maybe 11! :)

[RainMaQer]

I'm in... I hold 7th place for ALL pentium 3's with the ti200 and default bench.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RainMaQer
I'm in... I hold 7th place for ALL pentium 3's with the ti200 and default bench.

oc'd ti200?

[RainMaQer]

DEAD ti 200:D
It was oc'd though... of course;) Just got wet and fried... being RMA'd. Also gettin a new p3 1000e cDO... should help a little:D

*Heres a link. (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2451156) *

[Arkaine23]

I'm in. Only a Quadro2 Pro Ti, but I'm in 10th against all XP processors with my 1600+, and 2nd for XP's close to my own speed, up to 1633 Mhz. 2nd place for XP 1600+ at default speed (5483). 5922 3dmarks is my absolute max so far. Edit: Now 5948. But I'm more stable at settings that score 5889. Still trying to hit 6k, but it's been warm the last few days...

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RainMaQer
DEAD ti 200:D
It was oc'd though... of course;) Just got wet and fried... being RMA'd. Also gettin a new p3 1000e cDO... should help a little:D

*Heres a link. (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2451156) *

if you break 75xx ill be impressed :)

[wolfsid]

I hit about 9700 with my geforce 3 ti 450 golden samply with a 1500+ unlocked and running at 2000+ I hate pr# so its 13x145.. not bad... I would like to join it.. also working on a crazy mod for geforce 3 ti.. I wrote a post in here somewere..

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by Dissolved


if you break 75xx ill be impressed :)

That was with a P3 750 @1050... I think that's impressive in itself...;)

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by wolfsid
I hit about 9700 with my geforce 3 ti 450 golden samply with a 1500+ unlocked and running at 2000+ I hate pr# so its 13x145.. not bad... I would like to join it.. also working on a crazy mod for geforce 3 ti.. I wrote a post in here somewere..

well like i told trance, its a $100 member fee.. :p

hmmm 1885 and only 97xx pts? sounds a lil low...
whats ur ti450 oc'd to?
cooling?

and i saw that mod thread your talking about, ill need a mod for my ti500 to get higher oc and more stable as well, so far highest oc if got 3dmark through stable was 277/601... may do higher, but amibent/room temp has alot to do with my pc being stable..

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RainMaQer


That was with a P3 750 @1050... I think that's impressive in itself...;)

nice, i bet your 1000E will do a good job too :)

[wolfsid]

Originally posted by Dissolved


nice, i bet your 1000E will do a good job too :)

What type of cooling you have also what card you have hook me up with some info

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Dissolved


well like i told trance, its a $100 member fee.. :p

hmmm 1885 and only 97xx pts? sounds a lil low...
whats ur ti450 oc'd to?
cooling?

and i saw that mod thread your talking about, ill need a mod for my ti500 to get higher oc and more stable as well, so far highest oc if got 3dmark through stable was 277/601... may do higher, but amibent/room temp has alot to do with my pc being stable..

Where are you getting these ideas that 9000+ are bad scores? Anything over 7000 for ANY card is damn impressive!! But who am I? , I only have 9025..lol

[Johan]

I'm up for that. I'm in the top 50 for Radeon DDRs w/ a P3. Score is 3401.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by TranceBear


Where are you getting these ideas that 9000+ are bad scores? Anything over 7000 for ANY card is damn impressive!! But who am I? , I only have 9025..lol

well im hoping to get at least 1.8 with my 1900+ depending on how much money i get for my stuff in the classifies..
i may pelt my gf3 also.. seeing i have an extra 300gph pump..

[wolfsid]

Originally posted by Dissolved


well im hoping to get at least 1.8 with my 1900+ depending on how much money i get for my stuff in the classifies..
i may pelt my gf3 also.. seeing i have an extra 300gph pump..

Pelter that is the idea i had i was thinking about making a big coldplate that fits all over the ram and gpu and put like a 156 watt on there to see what i can do with a voltage mod..

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by wolfsid


Pelter that is the idea i had i was thinking about making a big coldplate that fits all over the ram and gpu and put like a 156 watt on there to see what i can do with a voltage mod..

yea.. i have tin ram sinks and ill probly just use an 80w with the heatsink i have on it now..

[adamtekh]

ill join for the hell of it , my scores arnt bad for what i have and air colling

2007 marks :beer:

[Dissolved]

well we could get a webpage up and stuff, but i suck at doing that, so any idea's?

[RainMaQer]

I'll do the work on the page if some one has a host. Need some help with graphics.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RainMaQer
I'll do the work on the page if some one has a host. Need some help with graphics.

probly ask skip for a lil space :)

[RainMaQer]

Sounds good... let know when you wanna do this.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by RainMaQer
Sounds good... let know when you wanna do this.

well sometime mid this week, seeing i get my 1900+, and ill have to format and reinstall xp and whatknot..

[funnyperson1]

im at 6th place for all PIIIs up to 864mhz.......with Geforce2 Ti/Pro/GTS.......i bet if i had a bx id be on top....grrrr:mad:

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
im at 6th place for all PIIIs up to 864mhz.......with Geforce2 Ti/Pro/GTS.......i bet if i had a bx id be on top....grrrr:mad:

well i Want ppl with #1 scores :)
so tweak it bro!

[oc jason]

Heck i got only a GF2 and i get 5551 markds in 3dmark2001

[deathstar13]

well just a update for dissolved
id did finally max my gf3ti500 out to get my max. 262/580 not bad for air cooling.
i just did 7671 @1400 mhz no cpu overclock!
can go higher but im holding out for my h2o kit next week and ill max this xp1600 out! just isnt what i call stable with a crappy hs/w fan.
and i might be persuaded to jion if you ask nicley lol jk
keep us filled in.

btw im retired so i have much time on my hands to spend ocing and i also have a little $ so i can buy upgrades as i go!

just im gonna puke if i gotta shell out $400 for a gf4! theres gotta be a way around it!

EDIT! had to come back and edit this. those scores were with a stock crappy driver supplied with my card. didnt notice untilll today. reinstalled 23.12 but now i need to retest it ! ill just edit it in here dissolved no sense in posting 5 times on same subject.

[Arkaine23]

#1 Athlon XP 1600+ at default speed with GF2 GTS/Pro/Ti class card. :D

Edit: Knocked back to #2 by 100 3dmarks.

[skrill]

I'm interested -- I am trying to set up to break 10k.

My highest score obtained thus far is around 9600.

I'll keep you all informed.

[digz]

lol nice rig of horsepower you have there !:D

my scores my sig :p

[juliendogg]

just squeezed 10820 out of my setup. puts me in 4th for r8500, xp<1675mhz on win98... SWEET!!! I finally broke 10k!!!
http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2581221

I'M IN!! bet i could squeeze even more from it. MWA-HA-HA!!!

[Element-Xero]

I used to be #1 for Geforce Pro/GTS but now that they added Ti200's into that catagory im in like the top 20...still not too bad tho.

Does anyone else begin to loathe all of the test graphics in 3dm2k1? I seriously just queasy when i see that @*#@^ lobby.....

I run it so much!!!!!!!!!!

[funnyperson1]

hey dissolved, dont count me out yet....check out this thread...i am number one :)

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=62048

[skrill]

Here is my current high on my current rig.

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2541890

This was at default Vid Card speed. And the Ti500 I am now using can do 270/575 and maybe more.

Right now I am waiting on a Vapo so I can take this Northwood to 3 ghz.

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
hey dissolved, dont count me out yet....check out this thread...i am number one :)

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=62048

I don't know.... I'd want to see people that give only 200%...:D
J/k
Good job funnyperson1... kinda narrowin it down there... but still... congrats;)

[adamtekh]

i would like to see how far my tnt 2 can go

hit 2027 today with just wimpy 80 mms blowing on it


need more cfm , and better heatsink for gpu ..........

200 core would be nice

[juliendogg]

i just gotta update this. i'm lovin it. all i did was push the fsb just 1mhz higher. 5 more on the gpu and 2 more on the ati's ram..
and i get....... http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2581607

11866 NOW, i think that's not too shabby
guess i'm looking for 12000 now:D

oh yeah, and if it means anything that's 5th place for all systems with processors under 1700mhz.
mine was running 1680 for that test.

[RainMaQer]

Not bad... but what do you get with the default bench?;)

[juliendogg]

"Not bad... but what do you get with the default bench?"

if that was directed at me.....


most recent was 9082 but as high as 9800 with driver 6012 and win2k. just formated and put 98 back on and this is my first night playing around with it:) think i could get 10000 with default benchmark settings. can't take away my oc though *laugh*

[RainMaQer]

That's what I like to here.... Yes that was directed at you... the default bench is a little more WIDELY comparable. I first saw you had 11000+ and then noticed your resolution and bit depth.:D

[CrystalMethod]

Going for the top 3DFX Voodoo 2000/3000 score. think I'm in the top 20 as of tonight. The new CPU isn't cooled properly, so I opened my window, and am waiting for the room temp to drop so that 3dmark will actually run.

[Dissolved]

well im gonna have to drop out for this, looks like i wont be online in about 2 weeks, unless i can fix my prob with my pc.. but it seems my mobo doesnt like the 1900+ XP so i may not get a new mobo till the KT333a come out.. ill keep all updated tho..
bye

[Arkaine23]

Dissolved: Looks like we've got a pretty good crew coming together on this one.

Anyone: Hey, I saw a score on madonion where the person only ran the first 6 tests... They had a pretty close set-up to my own and beat me narrowly. Are the first 6 tests on 3dmark2k1 the only ones that matter for the score? Sure I could try it for myself and find out, but if it's not the case then that would waste a perfectly good 3dmark run. I'm hoping someone here already knows the answer.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Arkaine23
Dissolved: Looks like we've got a pretty good crew coming together on this one.

Anyone: Hey, I saw a score on madonion where the person only ran the first 6 tests... They had a pretty close set-up to my own and beat me narrowly. Are the first 6 tests on 3dmark2k1 the only ones that matter for the score? Sure I could try it for myself and find out, but if it's not the case then that would waste a perfectly good 3dmark run. I'm hoping someone here already knows the answer.

the GAME tests only count, so being the first 4..
thats all i test, cuz 3dmark locked up for me alot at the end 2 tests, so just having the game tests one, give me a better chance of 3dmark running all the way

[moonman]

looks like I'm #3 with non ddr rigs @1.53ghz (not athlonxp) and ram is cas 3 lol.. can't set it lower or wont' boot. :(

[CrystalMethod]

Don't you think that it's a kinda moot point to not test the whole rig? I usually go by "If I cant' loop it endlessly, it's not a valid score". I could easily ramp up everythingin my system by sticking it outside while I run the bench marks. I'm sort of cheating right now, by running the bench mark with the window open, but it's not something that anyone else CAN'T do. Too bad I don't have an extra Alpha and Delta kicking around. I'm sure I can top the Voodoo 2000/3000 high score. I'm at 1419, from 530, in about 3 1/2 hours. I figure with a little tweaking we can get one of us to a #1 spot in this categorey.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Dissolved


the GAME tests only count, so being the first 4..
thats all i test, cuz 3dmark locked up for me alot at the end 2 tests, so just having the game tests one, give me a better chance of 3dmark running all the way

So you are not running ALL the tests? That kinda defeats the purpose of benchmarking your rig. I can run just the game part at 1975mhz and score WELL over 10k but i do not call it a stable overclock until I can run ALL the tests and run Prime 95 torture test for 36 hours minumum.

I truley think you have a great idea Dissolved, but make sure you have the criteria down before we start. I want everybody to be at a level playing field.

[Arkaine23]

Proposed standards:

1) All 3dmark2001 tests run
2) zero artifacts

Anyone else care to input?

[Violator]

How are you going to prove the tester had zero artifacts??

Plus you should make it default settings only, they are the only settings that people will generally compare.

Personally I wouldn't be too bothered about running all the tests, since only the first 3 or 4 matter (depending on your card). And if your rig ain't stable, it's gonna crap out pretty quick with 3dMark anyway.

[juliendogg]

"Personally I wouldn't be too bothered about running all the tests, since only the first 3 or 4 matter (depending on your card). And if your rig ain't stable, it's gonna crap out pretty quick with 3dMark anyway."

i can score higher running just the game tests cuz my puter will lock at higher clock speeds towards the end of the tests. all of my scores are with all tests run.

there's a little progie called artifact tester that does a pretty good job with just that.......

[Violator]

Originally posted by juliendogg
"Personally I wouldn't be too bothered about running all the tests, since only the first 3 or 4 matter (depending on your card). And if your rig ain't stable, it's gonna crap out pretty quick with 3dMark anyway."

i can score higher running just the game tests cuz my puter will lock at higher clock speeds towards the end of the tests. all of my scores are with all tests run.

there's a little progie called artifact tester that does a pretty good job with just that.......

I'm well aware of artifact tester programs, what I said was how would you prove it when submitting the test.

Most forums that have these league tables generally specify :

Must complete on default settings
Must complete all possible tests

I think those are fair enough, the only reason I put in about not wanting to run all the tests was time really, since they make no difference to your final score.

[TranceBear]

Doing just the 1st few tests is fine to test new drivers/mods, but if we are going to make a database or list, I feel that it should be standardized. All default, all tests, and trust that when they say no artifacts, they mean it.

[Violator]

Originally posted by TranceBear
Doing just the 1st few tests is fine to test new drivers/mods, but if we are going to make a database or list, I feel that it should be standardized. All default, all tests, and trust that when they say no artifacts, they mean it.

Well I can live with that :D

[funnyperson1]

No artifacts? darn, guess im out...highest i can get is 3570 with those criteria.......

[Pinky]

You have my support. One day i'll upgrade my video card, for now you'll have my 4,000 points

[scoobydoo]

Well I just got my Geforce 3 TI200 back from MSI so I am in:)

I haven't overclocked it yet cause I want it to last more than a week this time

My default speed score is about 6700, which is much better than the 3600 I was getting with my fried card

After installing some new drivers, o/c'ing the card, better cooling and raising my FSB a bit more I think I can get close to the 8K range:)

BTW, since I have been out of the video card game for a few weeks, could someone point me to the best drivers out there that are FULLY compatible with Windows XP?

[Cisco Kid]

Well I am like 16th for Radeon 7500 3DMark2K1 scores. Plan to buy the MSI K7T266 Pro II mobo soon as I sell mine. Also pplan to upgrade to a 1600XP and overclock the snot out of it as well, and if the pocketbook allows I want some pc2400 or pc2700 ddr ram

Anyone know how much better the pc2400 would be over my crucial pc2100 that in tests has done 165 fsb.

Cisco Kid

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2313195

[CrystalMethod]

Well, I made it up to 8th. The problem with al the top scores is that they're not running all the tests, and just OC'ing their cards to get the score. It's not how they run their system normally (for most of them anyways), some of them are even lowering the resolution they benchmark in to get the higer scores (I'm guilty of it as well in this case). I'd just like to see a total domination of the top scores, by an overclockers.com team.

[riscracer]

I'm first place for Celeron 1.2 & Standart GeForce 3 having run all the tests on default for exactly 7500 3dMarks 2k1. Even for none-radeon 8.5k-users with same CPU, I'm on 2nd place, while the 1st has a GF3 Ti500. Not too bad for a Celeron I think. http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2587628

@ Cisco Kid: Don't go for MSI K7266 Pro II, but rather look out for Soltek SL-75DRV2, both tested @ http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q4/011126/kt266a_nforce-11.html

Riscracer

[wolfsid]

Originally posted by riscracer
I'm first place for Celeron 1.2 & Standart GeForce 3 having run all the tests on default for exactly 7500 3dMarks 2k1. Even for none-radeon 8.5k-users with same CPU, I'm on 2nd place, while the 1st has a GF3 Ti500. Not too bad for a Celeron I think. http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2587628

@ Cisco Kid: Don't go for MSI K7266 Pro II, but rather look out for Soltek SL-75DRV2, both tested @ http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q4/011126/kt266a_nforce-11.html

Riscracer

Not bad I know you do better.. voltage mod anyone..:D

[Gandalf]

I'm in.

How are we going to set this all up?

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by Gandalf
I'm in.

How are we going to set this all up?


Workin on the layout now... just waitin on some opinions and volunteers for graphics.

[adamtekh]

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62343


ah i feel good

[adamtekh]

my cpu is holding me back from geting to #1 :mad:

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Here is my stand at king of the mountain
#1 rank (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/componentcompare&projectType=6&cCriteria=1)
and here is the project details
Details (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6)

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy
Here is my stand at king of the mountain
#1 rank (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/componentcompare&projectType=6&cCriteria=1)
and here is the project details
Details (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6)

Hey... Your links take me to my info... got a compare url?

[Arkaine23]

Originally posted by CrystalMethod
Well, I made it up to 8th. The problem with al the top scores is that they're not running all the tests, and just OC'ing their cards to get the score. It's not how they run their system normally (for most of them anyways), some of them are even lowering the resolution they benchmark in to get the higer scores (I'm guilty of it as well in this case). I'd just like to see a total domination of the top scores, by an overclockers.com team.

Well, in order to compete, I say we do what it takes to take the top spots on the default benchmark... i.e. running only the first 4 tests, opening windows and doors to the cold winter air, OC'ing to unstable speeds, etc. However on the oc 3dmark team webpage we should list our top rank (1st, 2nd etc), our top score, and our stable score (<--emphasized by larger font size and bold). The stable score must meet the following criteria:
all tests run
default test
zero artifacts

There could be a little blurb on the page about the ethics of video overclocking which describes the difference between high scores and stable scores, and why we feel it necessary to list both.

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by Arkaine23


Well, in order to compete, I say we do what it takes to take the top spots on the default benchmark... i.e. running only the first 4 tests, opening windows and doors to the cold winter air, OC'ing to unstable speeds, etc. However on the oc 3dmark team webpage we should list our top rank (1st, 2nd etc), our top score, and our stable score (<--emphasized by larger font size and bold). The stable score must meet the following criteria:
all tests run
default test
zero artifacts

There could be a little blurb on the page about the ethics of video overclocking which describes the difference between high scores and stable scores, and why we feel it necessary to list both.

That sounds pretty good... Let's keep the ideas coming... Sooner it's done the sooner the world knows we rock at 3dmark:D

[juliendogg]

i agree.. whatever it takes to get the highest score and stable scores at default bench posted as well...
who's working on the page for this, did anyone ever find some space? think i missed something here.....

[Dissolved]

well my XP1900+ worked so now i have to format and all this stuff, so after i do that ill work on my scores again and to try and see if i can get the top xp1900+ :)

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Arkaine23


Well, in order to compete, I say we do what it takes to take the top spots on the default benchmark... i.e. running only the first 4 tests, opening windows and doors to the cold winter air, OC'ing to unstable speeds, etc. However on the oc 3dmark team webpage we should list our top rank (1st, 2nd etc), our top score, and our stable score (<--emphasized by larger font size and bold). The stable score must meet the following criteria:
all tests run
default test
zero artifacts

There could be a little blurb on the page about the ethics of video overclocking which describes the difference between high scores and stable scores, and why we feel it necessary to list both.

I completely disagree. If we can't do it fair and square then I am out!! We are not going to become anot[H]er forum full of cheaters and B.S. We have a reputation to uphold and I do not want the O/C good name associated with this kind of actions. We do it right or don't do it at all.

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by TranceBear


I completely disagree. If we can't do it fair and square then I am out!! We are not going to become anot[H]er forum full of cheaters and B.S. We have a reputation to uphold and I do not want the O/C good name associated with this kind of actions. We do it right or don't do it at all.

I fail too see how this is bad... There would be a STABLE score and a top score consisting of just the first 4 tests. The stable score would be the first one to list as this one would be the one to compare to. The top score would be next showing how far you can push your card... kind of a male extension syndrome thing goin on:D

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by RainMaQer


I fail too see how this is bad... There would be a STABLE score and a top score consisting of just the first 4 tests. The stable score would be the first one to list as this one would be the one to compare to. The top score would be next showing how far you can push your card... kind of a male extension syndrome thing goin on:D

This is fine, but to do "whatever" it takes to be the top dog is not for me. I feel a published score is a stable score. I may think different from others.

[Arkaine23]

We should beat the cheaters at their own game only for the sake of taking the top ranks on madonion. Gotta have a level playing field after all. The compare url's would be for our stable scores, and the layout of the oc 3dmark team webpage would emaphasize the stable scores. In fact, we could just list our rank and stable score, with no high score link.

And in out little blurb on the webpage about video card overclocking ethics we could say that some members of the team may have used unscrupulous methods to attain their highest scores, but that that was the best way to compete against other 3dmark "cheaters". Then we go on to explain the standards set forth by our team for the scores we do list on the website, our stable scores.

Good compromise?

[RainMaQer]

Originally posted by TranceBear


This is fine, but to do "whatever" it takes to be the top dog is not for me. I feel a published score is a stable score. I may think different from others.

Personally I feel that the "top" score should NOT be a published score... at least not published to show affiliation with the team.

[Arkaine23]

Good call. Team scores that are stable would be titled "Overclockers 3dmark2001 Team", while unstable scores should either not be published at all, or should be published with a different title.

Now what should be our standard for determining stable settings? For CPU speed? For video core/memory?

50 runs of sandra's cpu burn-in's and 20 loops of 3dmark2k1? Ideas?

[RainMaQer]

Since this is an ongoing debate... I think it should be something rather easy... like looped two or three times. Processor test... maybe 3dmark once or twice on software mode?

[Arkaine23]

OK, the CPU's OC should be very stable... tested thoroughly like every overclocker should do. We shouldn't have ill-gotten 3dmark scores earned with unstable CPU's. But for the video card, something simple like 3-20 loops of 3dmark at the same setting.... I also think we should do our scores in two ways: 1)cpu at default speed with video card OC'd, and 2)cpu OC'd and video card OC'd.

For those who want to prove the quality of their overclock and stability of their settings, we could make a space near where our score would be posted on the webpage where we could list additional testing methods(or at least put that info in the description of the published benchmark)... i.e. number of loops in X benchmarks, or number of hours, etc. This would show that some members of the team care about stability enough to do more than the minimun standard set forth. It would be a quality vs quantity kinda thing.

And again, an explanation on the page about the differences between our team's stability standards and top scores.

So how about some more ideas for minimum stability-testing standards?

[adamtekh]

in my experance just runing 3dmark 2001 is not good for stabilty test

i like to try multiple games for 30 mins to an 1 hour

my OC can be fine in UT, and 3dmark 2001 all day, but 20 mins of Q3 team arean and it locks up , just an experance

[Paul.K]

Guys listen, if you want to beat the guys like Macci, ddtung and Opp you will need every extra Mhz from your CPU and GPU. I was browsing through the orb last night and several guys at the top of the orb (wont mention names) are only running the first 4 benchies in 3Dmark2001. This in my opinion is terrible as they are only engaged in getting the highest score eventhough their system may not be stable in real-world day to day operations. For me i'm lying 12or 13th on the orb for the lower res benchies with a score of nearly 13000 3dmarks. However I will soon disappear down the order when the GF4 cards are available. You just cant keep up guys?????


Paul.K


PS I'd luv too join the team!!!!

[TranceBear]

I feel if your rig can survive the Prime 95 torture test than you can run any benchmark error free.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

well my XP1900+ worked so now i have to format and all this stuff, so after i do that ill work on my scores again and to try and see if i can get the top xp1900+

Yeah well to be first in the 1900XP section you have to go through me and for now I am first. No OC Yet.............Just a Kick ass System. But comon up it will be nice to have a challenge to stay on the top.
Compare (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2589584)
See if this link works better. Its my compare URl
Whats your system info. What card you using? we could work togther and stay on top.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy


Yeah well to be first in the 1900XP section you have to go through me and for now I am first. No OC Yet.............Just a Kick ass System. But comon up it will be nice to have a challenge to stay on the top.
Compare (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2589584)
See if this link works better. Its my compare URl
Whats your system info. What card you using? we could work togther and stay on top.

This is my 1900, compare here (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2533390)

Here is my 2000, compare here (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2550139)

I seem to be #3 with my combo (2000+)

[Violator]

Originally posted by TranceBear
I feel if your rig can survive the Prime 95 torture test than you can run any benchmark error free.

Prime95 only stresses the CPU tho'. You want something that stresses the whole system.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Violator


Prime95 only stresses the CPU tho'. You want something that stresses the whole system.

But most setups lock up due to CPU stress rather than Video, there is know way to check artifacts in a benchie reliabley. This is just one test I do after I O/C.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Nice run trance bear. Ill OC mine to 2000+ and see if i still have that 1 point lead on ya.

[Yatta]

macci and others just got 13000+ running 2001 on default!!! so our scores need some improvement.

[adamtekh]

get this my tnt2 overclocked like mad beat a Gf 2 mx 200 64 meg that was overclocked as well , and they had a better cpu

:beer:

[Arkaine23]

Well, I think any cpu benchmark run continuosly for 2 hours plus at least 1 hour of solid gaming should suffice for a minumum stability standard. I've found no benefit in running only the 1st 4 tests of 3dmark, as I run it at stable cpu speeds, and would prefer to have scores where all tests were run. We have to face the fact that it's an honors system no matter what kinda standards we agree upon...

I've also found little difference between a stable score and my top score... only about 55 3dmarks. The important things here are 1) to maintain our reputations by overclocking our systems without compromising stability, 2) to show up other 3dmark users, including those who use questionable methods, even if we choose not to officially publish our highest scores.

I'd suggest: Naming official stable scores as "Overclockers Team 3dmark". Naming unofficial high scores as "Unofficial Score (member Team Overclockers)". Putting our personal stability testing methods, if applicable, in the description of the benchmark.

This way the average 3dmark browser would see that our high scores top the charts, but still get the sense that what matters to us is getting a high score that we can play games on all day and all night.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by Yatta
macci and others just got 13000+ running 2001 on default!!! so our scores need some improvement.

No sane person is going to beleive that. They are probaly "flash" overclocking. Makes me sick!!

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by TranceBear


No sane person is going to beleive that. They are probaly "flash" overclocking. Makes me sick!!

well im not Sane, and i dont believe that... i want Real proof, and no photoshop 3dmark pics..

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Heh. I just got 92xx with mine here is the link compared with Macci highest. Please note where it says his is run in 640x800 16bit mode. THis is why there is so high. Take a look here. (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2470526)
Im sure we all could do this good with the same test they are running. However this is not a true bench. If you can't run default don't even post it.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy
Heh. I just got 92xx with mine here is the link compared with Macci highest. Please note where it says his is run in 640x800 16bit mode. THis is why there is so high. Take a look here. (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2470526)
Im sure we all could do this good with the same test they are running. However this is not a true bench. If you can't run default don't even post it.

I agree, these are bogus scores, i just ignore them when I see them.

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by TranceBear


I agree, these are bogus scores, i just ignore them when I see them.

i dont want Non-Default scores, as i said be4 i only want default...
thanks :)

ill try and get my new score tomorrow or by firday

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Trance whats your Bench with your system where you have it at now? I mean for 3dmark2k1?

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy
Trance whats your Bench with your system where you have it at now? I mean for 3dmark2k1?

Non-tweaked ATI 8500 running at 1.85ghz. Everything default. Compare here (http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2550139)

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Tweak it up some. That just aint right. Look at my results against your here (http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2550139) . Got it OC to 265/573. 1.714 Ghz. With alittle tweaking I beat you could hit 9700 maybe higher.
On your results it shows your CPU at 1838Mhz but your FSB is 133. How is this possible?? What kinda cooling you running on that thing I can't get mine to hit 1800Mhz. I got the MCX462 on mine.

[Mad Butter]

Sounds like a great idea......I'll be willig to help......I tihnk I'll be at the bottom of 3dmark scores......I have a celeron 1000 with a voodoo 5. I would get a new one but 1..I dont have the money reight now.......2......My video card can play any game smooth even on 1280X1024 except max paine ta some parts so I'm not in a big rush to get a new one untill it starts choking in the new upcoming games......




-evan

[IcarusFalling]

I'm game for this.
I have no idea were I rank for my setup. (see sig)
I'll check out my ranking when I get home. (at work right now :D )

[Malakai]

check my sig, not to bad, eh?
i like the official and stable idea, arcane. im gettin some OCZ micron pc2400cas2-2-2 tomorrow or monday, and that ram almost always goes to 170mhz@2-2-2, so we'll see if i can break 9000...... i would never run my system unstable, i wouldnt dream of frying any of my valuable components:D


so when are we gonna start this, and can we put our o/c.com names in the descriptions?

[Arkaine23]

I already changed the titles and descriptions of some of my better runs. What we're waiting on is to get a webpage up that will have some general info about our OC'ing philosophy/ethics and our 3dmark2001 scores/standings. Put your OC handle in the description by all means if you want. Mine is the same as my email, so for me there's no need.

Here's what I changed my 3dmark projects to:

High but not so stable scores: Unofficial Score (member Overclockers Team 3dMark)

Best Stable Score: Overclockers Team 3dMark

Everything else went in the description. It might be better to put the card's OC in the title as well for easy reference.

This format is open for suggestions....