My CPU is overheating (41 C) what is wrong?

[Emericana]

The cpu is 41 C when loading up in bios. i know you will probably say, that is not that bad, but with my specs it is pretty hot. I got a SK6 , a Purple Shim (it does work on XP's), and artic silver II. I was thinking that maybe i put too thick a layer of ASII on. Could this be the problem? I just finished building the pc yesterday. Also i got a lianli. Could case flow be a problem? I dont think that is the case. SHould i just reapply the ASII?

[VashTheStampede]

41C is not "overheating" per se, when it breaks 50, yes.

It's fine, you can reapply AS2 and reseat the SK-6 if you really feel like it. Those temps are also from the insocket thermisistor and is not at all accurate. If you want better temps, you can either duct one of those 80MMs to the SK-6 or upgrade from the SK-6 to a "supersink" (Ones that use 80MM fans) like the Alpha PAL8045.

~Vash~

[Warlord2]

sounds like you either dont have it seated right or not enough airflow in the case.

AS2 also may of not settled in yet.

the shim also keeps makes your temps go up.

how many fans do you have? and how big are they? and whats you room temp?

[Emericana]

my room temp is normal. in my lianli i got two panaflow 80mm fans in the front set on max and one 80mm below the psu. I didnt think that a shim would make the temp go up. I needed one. i prolly wouldof destroyed the processor if it were not for it. i have highspeedpc.com's one. Air Flow is ok. I think i am going to reseat it. is it possible that i put too much asii on it?

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_4903544/PC/cpuunlocked!.jpg?bchi1V8AUSBHVQmx that is what the cpu looked like before the hsf was on it. Is there too much as ii on it?

[Kendan]

What are your load temps?

[Emericana]

dont know what my load temps are w/ motherboard monitor. i dont have anything other than the 4 in 1 drivers installed yet in win2k. i am writing to you now from my old computer. i just got the temps straight from my 8kha+'s bios

[WeaponX]

Just keep the temps under 60C and you'll be just fine :)

[rogerdugans]

Temps may be just fine: 1 of mine shows only a 2c difference between bios and load, and load temp is the only thing that really matters anyway: bios and idle are just general indicators of what load temps may be.

I start having stability problems about 50c, so you may have trouble if it gets that high, but as stated earlier, thermistors are notorious for being inaccurate.

[Yodums]

May sound a little risky but you can do the this take off the shim and try using it without the shim.

Clean the base of the heatsink and the core with isoprophyl let it evaporate for 1 min. Then squeeze with the least pressure and get the ASII as little out as you can. Then take a blade take very little by little till you fill the core with a completely flat surface. Then make sure you rub the heatsink and clean it off after with a dry lint-free cloth leaving ASII in the sanding marks.

Then mount it carefully. I really don't think the heatsink will crush your core as we have many overclockers using the copper heatsink and the big ones like Swiftech and Alpha how do they feel picking up their package LOL!

Just becareful when mounting it, take your time. You can also try lapping the heatsink.

Your temperature in the bios seem to be high as thats like a cold boot and its very idled temperatures. Make sure there's good airflow and free from wires getting in the way of the air being moved.

Yodums

[Hoot]

Originally posted by Emericana
I was thinking that maybe i put too thick a layer of ASII on. Could this be the problem? I just finished building the pc yesterday.

Any excess AS2 will displace as a function of the pressure between the HSF baseplate and the core, the heat the core gives off and the vibration from the fan. It is more an issue of waste. That process can take from several hours to several days. Since you don't have any software loaded, just boot up into the bios and let it sit there for a day or so. The bios routine will put enough load on the CPU to generate some heat and with the pressure and vibration, it'll settle in just fine. Every time you remove the HSF, clean and re-apply thermal grease, you have to go through the whole process again. Never evaluate thermal performance, short of some obvious overheating condition, as soon as you mount the HSF. Too many people are in a hurry to play with a new setup. While there's nothing wrong with that, just don't judge the HSF until it's had some time to settle in.

Hoot

[DodgeViper]

What kind of temps did you expect? 41c sound about right for air cooling. Remember your temps will be anywhere from 8-14c above your ambient temps. I am currently as I type at 25c/37c. But on the other hand your running an XP which I heard run a little cooler.

[instant]

Fixing some air issue with my setup I managed to get my "idle" cpu to drop from 66C to 51C.

Still I feel that is to high for a Swiftech 462B on a Athlon 1800XP. But Giving the hsf about 30-40% more air dropped the temperature by 15C.

I have not tried closing the case again, i'll test that today and see what happens to the temperature.

[Ozzman]

hoot is so right.. when i first started up with my pal tpday i was ****ed because it was o high but after several hours its slowly been droping... i went from 41 idle at 1.2 from 1.13 to 38 idle from 1.13 to 1.333 and im sure it will drop a little more.. im loving it i just wish my motherboard could handle a higher vcore so i could get higher OC.

[bobt17]

Originally posted by instant
Fixing some air issue with my setup I managed to get my "idle" cpu to drop from 66C to 51C.

Still I feel that is to high for a Swiftech 462B on a Athlon 1800XP. But Giving the hsf about 30-40% more air dropped the temperature by 15C.

I have not tried closing the case again, i'll test that today and see what happens to the temperature.

are thos the temps useing the in socket thermister of the asus board?? if they are then i have that same board a7v266-e and it reports the temps about 10C higher then what they really are so if u are running at 51C thats actualy very good :) 41C or near that

[instant]

Its the A7V266-E (w. raid/audio). Revision 1.07
Using the "athlon/duron" temperature sensor, not the "reserved" setting which according to ASUS Germany is for Palamino, unfortunately it does not work.

well, 41C does'nt sound to bad :-)

A way to test this 'error' reporting would'nt taht be to boot up the computer and check in bios how fast the temperature increases, because you get immediately the temperature of MB and CPU in it, and the motherboard is around 21C, which is the room temperature, the cpu should have this temperature at boot aswell, but will rise, so for instance the bios is shown after 4 seconds from power up, it may have risen 4-6C, and if it then shows 34C it will actually only be 20C?

:-)

I'll try to halt-on-idle and stnpgn# today and see if I can decrease the temperature some more.. also want to try to lower the vcore to get less C...

41C i can live with ;)

[bobt17]

Originally posted by instant
Its the A7V266-E (w. raid/audio). Revision 1.07
Using the "athlon/duron" temperature sensor, not the "reserved" setting which according to ASUS Germany is for Palamino, unfortunately it does not work.

well, 41C does'nt sound to bad :-)

A way to test this 'error' reporting would'nt taht be to boot up the computer and check in bios how fast the temperature increases, because you get immediately the temperature of MB and CPU in it, and the motherboard is around 21C, which is the room temperature, the cpu should have this temperature at boot aswell, but will rise, so for instance the bios is shown after 4 seconds from power up, it may have risen 4-6C, and if it then shows 34C it will actually only be 20C?

:-)

I'll try to halt-on-idle and stnpgn# today and see if I can decrease the temperature some more.. also want to try to lower the vcore to get less C...

41C i can live with ;)


i didnt really test it myself as i dont have something i can use to get more accurate readings but i asked about how far off the thermister was on another forum and they told me it was 10-16C cooler then what they report

[DodgeViper]

Instant, a good way to find out if you have cooling issue's is to pull the side panel off the case and use a large house fan. If the temps drop then your air flow within the case needs to be addressed.

[instant]

I'll try with another fan.

One question.

Bootup from cold, CPU is about 34 and rises.
Motherboard is about 21 and rises to 23 after -eons-

I dont think the cpu has risen from "21" to 34-35 in 5 seconds, so theoretically the difference between the rise, the current value, and the motherboard value could be the error in the reporting, i.e, 7 degree difference, so the cpu core is reported 7C to high?

I'll test some more airflow issues tonight.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by instant
I'll try with another fan.

One question.

Bootup from cold, CPU is about 34 and rises.
Motherboard is about 21 and rises to 23 after -eons-

I dont think the cpu has risen from "21" to 34-35 in 5 seconds, so theoretically the difference between the rise, the current value, and the motherboard value could be the error in the reporting, i.e, 7 degree difference, so the cpu core is reported 7C to high?

I'll test some more airflow issues tonight.

Your forgetting your computer was doing nothing and you just booted up and checked the temperatures, obviously it was never warm and now it is getting warm to boot everything.

Yodums

[instant]

Well, my point was that, the motherboard and cpu are probably the same temperature before being booted, but the Cpu is reported at a much higher temperature than the motherboard, naturally it will get hotter than the motherboard, but how much/how fast is what i'm trying to establish, to have a general "idea" as to how high the error in the inbuilt temperature monitor is.

[Yodums]

Well like I said your computer is cooled off and its going to have the same temperature as your motherboard and then to the time you boot up it'll start pumping up fast I experimented awhile back.

Well in the other thread I told ya to go to Radio Shack and pick up an external probe thats your best bet.

[instant]

I'll see if I can find something similar to 'radio shack' here in cold Norway.. :-)

There is nothing here.. .. barren cold landscape ;)

I can ask the local natives to make me a sculptured tower out of ice, that would be --- cool --- :-) hoho.. anyway, i'll check around and see if I can find a probe.. where should I put this, inside the hsf? next to the cpu? .. anywhere? =)

I read in a pdf i located on the AMD web pages that you should drill a hole inside the hsf to fit the probe, i'm definatively NOT going to do that ;)

[Yodums]

No it should be taped next to the core and the tip of the probe should be tipping the core with ASII to link it. Just make sure you don't tape it over the bridges (L1 etc.)

Yodums

[instant]

Sounds reasonable.

Anyone have done this on their A7V266-E and compared the bios reported temperature to the real temperature?

[ThePunkGeek]

Originally posted by WeaponX
Just keep the temps under 60C and you'll be just fine :)
anyone who puts there time and money into building a computer does not want 60°C the goal is always below 50 @ load temps

[instant]

Did some more tweaking..

Down to 41C CPU idle now..

Down 25C from Saturday then... :-)