What are the BEST Radiators on the market today Dual and Triple (240mm and 360

[muelo1000]

I wanted to know what are consider the best Radiators out in the market Today I am interested in dual and possible triple (240 and 360mm) If it fits my HAF 922 please if you could add personal spec even better.
Thanx

[MattNo5ss]

I only hear good things about the following:

Feser (TFC) X-Changer (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/fecoxcra.html)
HW Labs' Black Ice GTX (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/blicegtgenii.html)
Swiftech Quiet Power (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swqupora.html)

Swiftech is good performance/dollar or if you're on a tight budget.

As for fitting in HAF922, I can't say...rads inside of mid-towers are usually a pretty tight fit.

[baditude_df]

I'll add the Thermochill PA 120.3 and XSPCRX360 as top end, low FPI Rads.

[Conumdrum]

All the resources you'll need to see what is the best. Skinnee and Martins plus other links, have fun, we can advise, but learning on your own is priceless.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/253958-29-watercooling-guide

[MattNo5ss]

A note on the Thermochills:

They use G3/8 threading, whereas the standard is G1/4. So, just make sure your threads match.

[Spawn-Inc]

A note on the Thermochills:

They use G3/8 threading, whereas the standard is G1/2. So, just make sure your threads match.

standard is G1/4.


best performance dpends on fans, but that aside my vote goes to the Black ice GTX series.

[baditude_df]

standard is G1/4.


best performance dpends on fans, but that aside my vote goes to the Black ice GTX series.

Lol, I took mercy and sent him a PM Spawn. I sometimes confuse the thread with the O.D. of my barbs. It happens.

Anyway, I have a good thread in my favorites on threads: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/410916-3-8-npt-thread-vs-g1.html

[MattNo5ss]

Lol, I took mercy and sent him a PM Spawn. I sometimes confuse the thread with the O.D. of my barbs. It happens.


Sorry about that, I guess that's what I did...didn't even notice. Anyways, edited.

[Flurp]

Also, OP, the best radiator for your setup may be different than someone elses... al depends on your pump, and how restricted your loop is...

[muelo1000]

standard is G1/4.


best performance depends on fans, but that aside my vote goes to the Black ice GTX series.

ok guys so my tubing is 3/8 do i get a barb with a G1/4 tread and a 3/8 I.D> stub??????(what the hose connects to )

Also is it better to push or pull the air trough the radiator ??

[baditude_df]

What is the I.D of the tubing? The O.D of the barbed nozzle should match that.

And yes, likely you will be using a G1/4 threaded barbed nozzle.
Unless of course you went with the aforementioned PA120.3.

Better to push air through the radiator.
Even better is to shroud the fans off from the radiator. Currently I use 3*38mm fans with 25mm shrouds (http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3364/imgp0616.jpg)(old 120mm fan frames).
But just putting some small hub fans like a yateloon 25mmx120mm medium also works quite well.

PS: Shouldn't this be in the Water Cooling Forum?

[muelo1000]

What is the I.D of the tubing? The O.D of the barbed nozzle should match that.

And yes, likely you will be using a G1/4 threaded barbed nozzle.
Unless of course you went with the aforementioned PA120.3.

Better to push air through the radiator.
Even better is to shroud the fans off from the radiator. Currently I use 3*38mm fans with 25mm shrouds (http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3364/imgp0616.th.jpg)(old 120mm fan frames).
But just putting some small hub fans like a yateloon 25mmx120mm medium also works quite well.

PS: Shouldn't this be in the Water Cooling Forum?
Sorry got a little excited

[baditude_df]

Link fixed.

[Spawn-Inc]

Lol, I took mercy and sent him a PM Spawn. I sometimes confuse the thread with the O.D. of my barbs. It happens.

Anyway, I have a good thread in my favorites on threads: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/410916-3-8-npt-thread-vs-g1.html

lol, i meant it in the nicest way :)

haven't seen him/her in the w/c threads so figured it wasn't a typo.

[SuperDave1685]

+1 vote for Thermochill's PA120.3 :D

[Daddyjaxx]

Price for performance goes to the MCR320 hands down:

Feser: 140.00
Black Ice: 140.00
Thermochill: 120.00
XSPC RX: 95.00
MCR320: 55.00

The MCR320 can handle a heavily overclocked I7 withe ease as long as you have a quality pump, block, and fans.

If you top mount the rad it is easier to pull air than push air. I installed the fans to the rad with small sheet metal screws and the rad to the case with standard fan screws. I'm lucky as the HAF932 is made for a 3x120 rad with zero modifications except removing the top 230mm fan.

[thorilan]

Also, OP, the best radiator for your setup may be different than someone elses... al depends on your pump, and how restricted your loop is...


this is very important

there are several things you have to consider.

basically fin density effects fan choice and noise levels

then there is flow rate.

thats why we have to use graphs because if it where just a question of the best we could name a single champion and there would be only 3 models.
ultra cheep low performance ( budget)
normal
and ultra expensive
and it would be as simple as that but its not .


so first you have to decide your comfortable hearing level so you can pick which camp you are in weather it be a ultra performance camp an ultra quiet camp or somewhere in between the 2 as most of us are. after you have that decided then you ask

" what is the best radiator pump block combo for my needs "

that is how you decide what the best on the market is

[phil178821]

also to note, the fan spacing (still to my knowledge) on the TC PA120.3 is different than all others. For instance, in my MM case, I had to select different fan spacing when I had my case built. so if I changed to another brand rad, it would not line up with the fan openings cut in my case.

[Conumdrum]

PA 120.3 have changed. It's 15mm now. It's hard to find a 17mm PA rad now, but you need to make sure if you need an old one or new one. It ONLY matters if the case has predrilled holes though.

[phil178821]

PA 120.3 have changed. It's 15mm now. It's hard to find a 17mm PA rad now, but you need to make sure if you need an old one or new one. It ONLY matters if the case has predrilled holes though.



ah i figured.. i just haven't paid enough attention

[Big Mike]

Price for performance goes to the MCR320 hands down:

Feser: 140.00
Black Ice: 140.00
Thermochill: 120.00
XSPC RX: 95.00
MCR320: 55.00

The MCR320 can handle a heavily overclocked I7 withe ease as long as you have a quality pump, block, and fans.


But can it handle a GPU? The PA120.3 handles a Q6600 AND 4870x2 in my loop...

[Conumdrum]

A Pa 120.3 can handle 300 watts with Yate Loon mediums at a delta of 6.4C. Pretty good. A Q6600 and a 4870x2 is probably 325 watts or so if BOTH were under load tests, not common with normal usage. So yea, it's fine with your setup.

Problem is, with a i7 920 at ohh 4.5 or so under load is near 250 watts. Not leaving much room for a hot GPU.

Slap some Scythe Ultra Kaze on there and the rad is good for almost 600 watts at the same delta. So it depends on your fannage and tolerance for noise.

[Big Mike]

A Pa 120.3 can handle 300 watts with Yate Loon mediums at a delta of 6.4C. Pretty good. A Q6600 and a 4870x2 is probably 325 watts or so if BOTH were under load tests, not common with normal usage. So yea, it's fine with your setup.

Problem is, with a i7 920 at ohh 4.5 or so under load is near 250 watts. Not leaving much room for a hot GPU.

Slap some Scythe Ultra Kaze on there and the rad is good for almost 600 watts at the same delta. So it depends on your fannage and tolerance for noise.

I dunno, the eXtreme TDP calc says over 200 watts at my overclock just for the CPU. Ultimately I'm not saying it's better all the time, but I'm saying that the price/performance of the MCR320 isn't always going to make it the best option which was the impression I felt the post I was replying to was giving. My system couldn't be cooled with just one MCR, but it can be with 1 PA. A 9xx i7 and a single core card like a 4890 would easily be cooled by a PA but it'd be straining a MCR.

[EarthDog]

I have a PA120.3 and it can EASILY handle my Q9650 at 4.7Ghz AND my GTX260 216 which is volt modded and heavily o/c. My temps with about 23C ambient never break 65C on the CPU under Prime95 Small FFT/F@H and GPU hits 40C with Furmark at clocks listed below WITH CPU running full tilt. Gaming of course you can lose 10C off CPU and 3-5C off GPU.

Yate loon mediums at 1k RPM, no shrouds.

I would be concerned with a single depth rad with heavily o/c i7 and GPU. Temps Im sure would be fine, but more rad would lower the temps I would imagine.

[Daddyjaxx]

I don't think even a PA 120.3 could handle a heavily overeclocked I7 and overclocked high end graphics card when both are under full load. Normally either the CPU or GPU are under full load. Try to run 7 instances of Prime and something that heats up the GPU on the other core and see what your temps are like.

I had a 120.3 with 920 and 285GTX but I never tried that little experiment. Even running the I7 at full load upped the GPU temps a few degrees at idle.

[EarthDog]

Well, I have about 350W full load (200W CPU, 150W GPU) with Medium fans at only 1k RPM. And it handles the load just fine.

Add another 50W or so for I7 overclocks and another 50W for highest end GPU...you may have a point. However again, I just need to turn my fans up or get better ones. I think that rad can dissapate that load fine with proper fans and fan speeds.