P4 3000 V.s. Xp 2300

[tainice]

uh..this article is available at tom's, so take a look.....P4 really kicks @sses...:D

[Pinky]

For those who like links (like me :p ) here ya go (http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020128/index.html).

[MadMan007]

yeah, the .13 micron cores OC like mad. Just look at the Tualatins. Personally, I can't wait to see what the T-bred can do with .13 micron core as well. I think what we are seeing is the limits of the .18 cores @~ 2.5GHz for the P4 and ~1.85GHz for the XP. Seems like the limits on the .13 P4 is ~3GHz, without insane (Liquid N2) cooling. If the T-bred can get a similar OC% it will continue the neck-and-neck competition and benefit us all!

Only thing stupid about that article is the conclusion. Even though the P4@3000 does very well, it is not recommended?!?! Strange...

[Burning Phoenix]

I read that yesterday and almost was going to post a thread on it also. Take a look at what i saw in those tests. I saw the 2.2 Northwood overclocked to 2.4 ; a 10% increase or from 100 - 110 fsb; beat the AMD in almost every test overclocked to 1866 ; a increase of 13% or 133 - 150 fsb. Actaully they lowered the AMD muliplier down a .5 point and raised the fsb up 5mhz so a percent wise it was a little more.

Every chip i ever owned was able to overclock 10% over with stock cooling. SO Northwood will be a great next computer next month or so.

[Yatta]

does your sig say pentium 4? if so what do I win?


the p4 was a special chip not all chips will do that well and the cost is why they don't recommend it.

[Ebola]

toms hardware has really gone downhill.

[TC]

Originally posted by Ebola
toms hardware has really gone downhill. THG has gotten kind of weird. My personal favorite as of late was when they first got the 2.2 northwood sample to review they compared it to some grade of XP. At that time they wouldn't overclock it at all because they said "The only way to overclock the P4 is to raise the fsb which can create a lot of problems." Then in the same article they proceeded to overclock the XP by doing the very thing they gave as a reason for not overclocking the P4. And now he puts up this mega overclock article. They just seem a little strange to me now.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by TC
THG has gotten kind of weird. My personal favorite as of late was when they first got the 2.2 northwood sample to review they compared it to some grade of XP. At that time they wouldn't overclock it at all because they said "The only way to overclock the P4 is to raise the fsb which can create a lot of problems." Then in the same article they proceeded to overclock the XP by doing the very thing they gave as a reason for not overclocking the P4. And now he puts up this mega overclock article. They just seem a little strange to me now.

Err, yes that was one of my reasons why Tom's is not a good reviewer. I posted that in debates and his comparisons very odd. Since the Intel still came out on top against a watercooled AMD XP 2300+ w/ a FSB of 147 I believe.

[MadMan007]

Originally posted by Ebola
toms hardware has really gone downhill.

Yes, well...it all seems to depend on who the bribes came from most recently. When they didn't OC the first Northwood, it was AMD. Seems to be AMD again since they "don't recommend" the P4. :D

Anyone else notice the hardware bribe (CPU die simulator) that Innovatek gave them and in the very same article the Innovatek water-cooling setup "crushed" the swifty setup (and the swufty had no fan on the radiator b/c "it was not sent with one." DUH! Like there are no fans laying around at their test site. :rolleyes: )

THG is useless to me now, except for the occasional roundup.

[TC]

Originally posted by MadMan007


Yes, well...it all seems to depend on who the bribes came from most recently. When they didn't OC the first Northwood, it was AMD. Seems to be AMD again since they "don't recommend" the P4. :D

Anyone else notice the hardware bribe (CPU die simulator) that Innovatek gave them and in the very same article the Innovatek water-cooling setup "crushed" the swifty setup (and the swufty had no fan on the radiator b/c "it was not sent with one." DUH! Like there are no fans laying around at their test site. :rolleyes: )

THG is useless to me now, except for the occasional roundup. That was the biggest joke I've seen from them.

[saaya]

a bad thing about intel chips is that they lock them in a way you cant un lock them:D

whats the highest fsb you could achive with a p4 system?

2.2 Northwood overclocked to 2.4 ; a 10% increase or from 100 - 110 fsb; beat the AMD in almost every test overclocked to 1866

where did you read that? link?:)