View Full Version : HL Black Mesa release in 2009
Kuroimaho
11-19-09, 10:30 AM
When will Black Mesa be released.
We have always gone for a "when it's done" approach. We have however committed to releasing in the year 2009.
I didn't check their website often this year since they didn't update their devblog, so got quite surprised when I saw today their last update to the sire and that it's coming this year.
This means I don't care what else comes for holiday, a full HL series replay is in order. :thup:
TheGreySpectre
11-19-09, 11:10 AM
How recent is the post (can't check since I'm at work) I though they have said 2009 release for quite a while but there are almost never any updates to their site so I figured the project was abandoned.
lordkosc
11-19-09, 05:35 PM
I doubt it will be out this year. QQ
Kuroimaho
11-19-09, 09:45 PM
They overhauled the website and this was written on the front.
lordkosc
11-20-09, 02:52 AM
new website looks good!
GatorChamp
11-20-09, 07:11 AM
I was not even aware that this was in development. So am I correct in understand that it's Half-Life redone in the new Source Engine? If so I am so very excited. Just hope they dont charge $40 for it.
Edit: NM just saw this
"Black Mesa is a free modification; The developers will never charge you for playing mainly because we wouldn't want to make people pay to play, but also because it would be illegal to do so. As long as you have a copy of any source engine game on steam, Black Mesa will cost you nothing."
TheGreySpectre
11-20-09, 08:57 AM
Their new site looks good and I will be happy when this is released, but I am pretty skeptical about a 2009 release...there is not that much time left in 2009.
tinymouse2
11-21-09, 08:01 AM
They've been working on it for like 2 years now so it's about due but the youtube video's show they've only just got things like helicopters and some of the enemies to work... Seems like they have quite a fair way to go.
In other news, coffee sales in game developers seem to have risen to astronomical proportions.
jediobi1
11-21-09, 08:34 AM
They've been working on it for like 2 years now so it's about due but the youtube video's show they've only just got things like helicopters and some of the enemies to work... Seems like they have quite a fair way to go.
In other news, coffee sales in game developers seem to have risen to astronomical proportions.
everytime they post one of those videos they always say its a old video
tinymouse2
11-21-09, 12:23 PM
everytime they post one of those videos they always say its a old video
Up till about a month ago yes. About 4 recent video's didn't have that description. It was all new stuff and it's only just been developed (as far as I know)
nightelph
11-21-09, 01:43 PM
I've been longing for this for quite some time.
Kuroimaho: You said a full HL series replay is in order. Are you saying that black mesa is a re-make of HL AND Blue Shift and Opposing force, or that you were just going to replay it all yourself. I've never played the two expansion packs myself.
theflash083
11-21-09, 01:44 PM
I was not even aware that this was in development. So am I correct in understand that it's Half-Life redone in the new Source Engine? If so I am so very excited. Just hope they dont charge $40 for it.
Edit: NM just saw this
"Black Mesa is a free modification; The developers will never charge you for playing mainly because we wouldn't want to make people pay to play, but also because it would be illegal to do so. As long as you have a copy of any source engine game on steam, Black Mesa will cost you nothing."
you have to love valve
>HyperlogiK<
11-21-09, 08:55 PM
Previously they were saying that the game wouldn't be a straight remake, but a mix of remade and 're-imagined' content. I don't know if this has changed, I hope so though. I want to play Halflife with 2005/6 era gfx, sound and physics rather than a mod team's interpretation of what it should have been.
Vengance_01
11-21-09, 10:03 PM
If its good, I hope they have a donate button. Would to give them something. This is something Valve should has done this!
Springbok
11-22-09, 12:06 AM
Crazy big undertaking, as for releasing 2009, I'll believe it when I see it.
sno.lcn
11-22-09, 02:53 PM
So excited, been waiting on this since forever! When this comes out, it'll be the first time I've done any PC Gaming since Episode 2. Black Mesa will make my XB 360 useless to me :D
Holy crap! That is awesome, I can't wait. :D
Firey_chasm
11-24-09, 06:54 AM
ye I really cant wait for this :)
they announced 2009 release quite a few months ago now and have restated it multiple times on their forums.
I hope its right :) cant do anymore than hope since they are keeping it all under wraps.
nightelph
11-24-09, 02:19 PM
I just recently replayed HL1 on my netbook.. proof that graphics don't make the game!
pejsaboy
11-24-09, 09:54 PM
The only thing that could make the rest of 2009 better for me than BM:S actually being released would be Episode 3 being released. Since BM:S is the only one with a shot as far as I'm aware, I'll be ecstatic if it drops before 2010 starts!
theflash083
11-25-09, 02:14 AM
I just recently replayed HL1 on my netbook.. proof that graphics don't make the game!
truth.
Cant wait till we hit a wall in technology so we can start building quality games :)
>HyperlogiK<
11-25-09, 10:07 AM
The only thing that could make the rest of 2009 better for me than BM:S actually being released would be Episode 3 being released. Since BM:S is the only one with a shot as far as I'm aware, I'll be ecstatic if it drops before 2010 starts!
Hmm... I hope Valve pulls out something special for Ep 3. The same old gravity gun centric gameplay is starting to get a bit old, especially considering how innovative L4D and Portal were.
Aynjell
11-25-09, 10:25 AM
Hmm... I hope Valve pulls out something special for Ep 3. The same old gravity gun centric gameplay is starting to get a bit old, especially considering how innovative L4D and Portal were.
I think it's obvious what's going to happen. Portal references the half life universe as if they're one and the same. Glados obviously didn't want to leave. The people that should have ran that facility were also all gone, the entire site being ran by glados. Perhaps she went awol and killed them, and could have easily incinerated the bodies.
Also, the borealis, the ship mentioned at the END of HL2 episode 2, I believe, wasn't owned by black mesa, but by another company... aperture. I think it's obvious that gordan will find his way to that ship which the npc's more or less decided was the next step. Perhaps we'll have a gravity gun, but I think there will be another gun that gordan will come into possession of.
Portal universe = Half Life universe. They're one and the same, as shown by BOTH games mentioning the company highlighted by the other game.
Gordan gets the portal gun in ep3. It's plain as day where that's going, portal was more or less a huge playtest for the portal gun, because they want to do it right. Odds are since the real portal gun is with chel, it won't be a completed or even a fully functional version of the device, in fact we'll probably have artificial limitations due to the obvious power demonstrated by the portal gun in the game, portal.
Either way, I'm very excited for Half Life 3. Not only will the portal and half life game worlds merge completely and entirely, perhaps there'll even be a cameo for chel, our other voiceless hero. Who knows?
On top of what we're going to see, it's also the apex for the half life mythos, or so we're led to believe.
>HyperlogiK<
11-25-09, 10:01 PM
That's exactly the kind of thing that worries me, Portal is really a kind of platform game so the fact that it consists of movement/physics puzzles is just fine.
But the single thing that has sucked most about the Halflife series has been the attempt to shoehorn physics/movement puzzle sections into a hardcore FPS. It's not that physics and movement puzzles don't work (Mirror's Edge more than proves this), it's just that valve have always implemented them in a terrible way so that rather than being small, frequent and seamlessly integrated they might as well have signs saying "You are now entering a puzzle section."
Because of this Episode 1 was the first valve game that I not only didn't replay, I didn't even finish it; and Episode 2 while fun was pretty dated compared with the competition.
When I said that valve needs to do something special, I didn't mean merging story-lines or adding a new gun, they need to do something really fresh and new to give people who played Fallout 3, MW 1 & 2 or even the Battlefield games a reason to be interested. Otherwise they risk becoming as irrelevant as Id have.
Thareadjack ends.
Aynjell
11-25-09, 10:05 PM
That's exactly the kind of thing that worries me, Portal is really a kind of platform game so the fact that it consists of movement/physics puzzles is just fine.
But the single thing that has sucked most about the Halflife series has been the attempt to shoehorn physics/movement puzzle sections into a hardcore FPS. It's not that physics and movement puzzles don't work (Mirror's Edge more than proves this), it's just that valve have always implemented them in a terrible way so that rather than being small, frequent and seamlessly integrated they might as well have signs saying "You are now entering a puzzle section."
Because of this Episode 1 was the first valve game that I not only didn't replay, I didn't even finish it; and Episode 2 while fun was pretty dated compared with the competition.
When I said that valve needs to do something special, I didn't mean merging story-lines or adding a new gun, they need to do something really fresh and new to give people who played Fallout 3, MW 1 & 2 or even the Battlefield games a reason to be interested. Otherwise they risk becoming as irrelevant as Id have.
Thareadjack ends.
I disagree. Half Life games are fine the way they are, and their way causes the success they've enjoyed.
That's exactly the kind of thing that worries me, Portal is really a kind of platform game so the fact that it consists of movement/physics puzzles is just fine.
But the single thing that has sucked most about the Halflife series has been the attempt to shoehorn physics/movement puzzle sections into a hardcore FPS. It's not that physics and movement puzzles don't work (Mirror's Edge more than proves this), it's just that valve have always implemented them in a terrible way so that rather than being small, frequent and seamlessly integrated they might as well have signs saying "You are now entering a puzzle section."
Because of this Episode 1 was the first valve game that I not only didn't replay, I didn't even finish it; and Episode 2 while fun was pretty dated compared with the competition.
When I said that valve needs to do something special, I didn't mean merging story-lines or adding a new gun, they need to do something really fresh and new to give people who played Fallout 3, MW 1 & 2 or even the Battlefield games a reason to be interested. Otherwise they risk becoming as irrelevant as Id have.
Thareadjack ends.
2nd opinon...I could not disagree more. I believe that the awesome mix of puzzel solving and FPS along with the really cool Havok engine make for one of the best all time games I have EVER played~~!:thup::cool:
Eeeh eerr what else is there to look forward to in a FPS?
deathman20
11-26-09, 12:07 AM
Another update to the web page :)
HOPE HOPE HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This comes out soon. And its been well more then 2 years, this has been in the works since HL2 was released as far as I remember.
HL1 was one of the first games I truely completed from beginning to end. From there I remember going back and completing other games but this was one of my more memorable games that I beat. Really it wasn't the first Doom, Doom2, Duke Nukem (for some examples) where up there as well but its one of the most memorable games I've played that has laid a great foundation for the Story of an FPS.
If this came out before the end of 09, I cant really think of a better christmas present this year :D
Springbok
12-07-09, 10:14 AM
Oh gee, didn't see this coming Kotaku reports no Black Mesa 2009 (http://kotaku.com/5420419/its-your-annual-black-mesa-update)
TheGreySpectre
12-07-09, 03:59 PM
That does not suprise me in the least.
freakdiablo
12-07-09, 05:31 PM
I'm now taking bets on what will be out first Black Mesa or Duke Nukem Forever. Anyone?
lordkosc
12-07-09, 05:39 PM
i figured as much....
madhatter256
12-07-09, 05:45 PM
Well, DNF is definitely not coming out due to the liquifying of 3d Realms.
OMGOMGOMG the trailer was AWESOME.
:shock::shock::shock::drool::drool::drool:
Kuroimaho
12-07-09, 08:16 PM
Kuroimaho: You said a full HL series replay is in order. Are you saying that black mesa is a re-make of HL AND Blue Shift and Opposing force, or that you were just going to replay it all yourself. I've never played the two expansion packs myself.
This project was started when HL2 came out or so, given how long it took them I doubt anyone would invest time in remaking those as these guys remake HL 1 only.
Oh gee, didn't see this coming Kotaku reports no Black Mesa 2009 (http://kotaku.com/5420419/its-your-annual-black-mesa-update)
What a pity. Oh well maybe for next Christmas by that time Valve might finish a next episode for HL 3 years might be enough for an episode.
I'm now taking bets on what will be out first Black Mesa or Duke Nukem Forever. Anyone?
Black Mesa by a long shot. At least we are seeing content updates and trailers. Duke Nukem....Well we kinda saw some stuff, kinda.
Springbok
12-08-09, 08:53 AM
I just read an article by one of the head 3D Realms guys, apparently Duke Nukem is still in development even though they "released" the internal team. He said they prefer to outsource their development and hang onto their IPs, and that there are still some Duke games and the movie in the works. Not that I believe we'll be playing DN: Forever anytime soon.
I just read an article by one of the head 3D Realms guys, apparently Duke Nukem is still in development even though they "released" the internal team. He said they prefer to outsource their development and hang onto their IPs, and that there are still some Duke games and the movie in the works. Not that I believe we'll be playing DN: Forever anytime soon.
They are going for a Guinness World Record.
As for Black Mesa, I'm waiting for it but... They will probably get it photo finished, or it'll be a fiasco.
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