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Dmart01
11-24-09, 10:50 PM
Currently running a e6700 LGA775 processor with the Alienware liquid cooling unit. I am starting a build with a Core i7 920 LGA 1366 processor. I am curious if I can use the same cooling unit. Not sure what brand it is or anything. Came with my system. Alienware Aurora 7500. Also, if it leaks will it damage my system?. The liquid doesnt look like water. It looks more like antifreeze. Has a radiator with fan. Radiator is roughly 6inX6in. Also, currently while gaming I stay under 70 celsius but when doing small tasks like browsing It sits at 55 celsius. One core is always 5 degrees cooler than the other.

Bobnova
11-24-09, 10:59 PM
Any liquid that cools decently has enough water in it to fry things, leaks will kill hardware.
If you're in the 60's under load with a 65w CPU, a 130w CPU is going to be very, very hot.
The water block (the part that bolts to the CPU) won't fit the new motherboard either, intel thoughtfully gave each of their sockets a different bolt pattern.

So in short, No, not really.

Dmart01
11-24-09, 11:09 PM
Any liquid that cools decently has enough water in it to fry things, leaks will kill hardware.
If you're in the 60's under load with a 65w CPU, a 130w CPU is going to be very, very hot.
The water block (the part that bolts to the CPU) won't fit the new motherboard either, intel thoughtfully gave each of their sockets a different bolt pattern.

So in short, No, not really.


What is your opinion on this cooler as far as non liquid?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057

Bobnova
11-24-09, 11:21 PM
I don't know anything about it. However, i would recommend a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer or Xigmatek HDT 1283 over it, as they're both 120mm coolers to that one's 92mm, plus they cost less.

Dmart01
11-24-09, 11:41 PM
I don't know anything about it. However, i would recommend a Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer or Xigmatek HDT 1283 over it, as they're both 120mm coolers to that one's 92mm, plus they cost less.

ty sir, decided on the sunbeam. Thanks for the help :)

muddocktor
11-24-09, 11:41 PM
I would recommend either a TRUE 1366 Rev C retail (http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright-Ultra-120-eXtreme-1366-RT-Rev.C-pr-4569.html) hsf for $70 or the Prolimatech Megahalems with a Scythe SSF21F fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/prmeforinso7.html) for $76 for your cooling choices. Both work well on LGA1366 (or any other socket) and can easily let you do some decent overclocking without making you deaf from having to run high cfm, high noise fans.

Dmart01
11-25-09, 12:09 AM
I would recommend either a TRUE 1366 Rev C retail (http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright-Ultra-120-eXtreme-1366-RT-Rev.C-pr-4569.html) hsf for $70 or the Prolimatech Megahalems with a Scythe SSF21F fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/prmeforinso7.html) for $76 for your cooling choices. Both work well on LGA1366 (or any other socket) and can easily let you do some decent overclocking without making you deaf from having to run high cfm, high noise fans.

ok changed to this since the sunbeam says its not compatible with the i7.

Prolimatech Megahalem Rev. B for Intel 775 / 1156 / 1366

however, where can I buy good 120mm cpu fans?. All I see is case fans in that size the others include the coolers.

muddocktor
11-25-09, 12:10 AM
That's what the Megahalems and TRUE both use; a 120 X 25 or 120 X 38 mm case fan. The link I gave you for the Megahalems has a drop down menu where you can choose from a few fans, including the one I said. :)

Dmart01
11-25-09, 12:18 AM
That's what the Megahalems and TRUE both use; a 120 X 25 or 120 X 38 mm case fan. The link I gave you for the Megahalems has a drop down menu where you can choose from a few fans, including the one I said. :)

can it be plugged into the motherboard cpu fan controller or is it a variable one I have to set?

muddocktor
11-25-09, 12:21 AM
That Scythe I mentioned has a regular 3 pin fan header that will plug into the mobo header just fine. You can even use the bios settings to adjust fan speed according to cpu temp too. Since it's not a pwm fan, the mobo just varies the voltage feeding the fan to control fan speed.

thorilan
11-25-09, 12:25 AM
Any liquid that cools decently has enough water in it to fry things, water is not conductive. impurities are

Dmart01
11-25-09, 12:52 AM
water is not conductive. impurities are

so what your saying is if it isnt a distilled water mix then it has the potential to cook things. Which can happen if stuff on the board is conductive and mixes with the solution when it leaks

Conumdrum
11-25-09, 01:27 AM
You can't do anything about it. Building a loop takes care, The benefits are great. The cost is lots more than an air cooled rig.

Leaks happen. Usually uninformed not to smart un-prepped UNINFORMED builders.

But leaks happen to the pros too. Being careful and smart usually takes care of issues.

There is NO non-conductive liquid on the market. Unless you work at NASA and have a big fat checkbook.

No leaks. The smart way to watercool.

uberwoot
11-25-09, 01:46 AM
You can't do anything about it. Building a loop takes care, The benefits are great. The cost is lots more than an air cooled rig.

Leaks happen. Usually uninformed not to smart un-prepped UNINFORMED builders.

But leaks happen to the pros too. Being careful and smart usually takes care of issues.

There is NO non-conductive liquid on the market. Unless you work at NASA and have a big fat checkbook.

No leaks. The smart way to watercool.

And your pc is in a clean room.

Dmart01
11-25-09, 03:40 AM
ok, well I appreciate all the input. However, I dont intend to do alot of insane overclocking. Im a casual gamer but also one of those people that want the best I can get. Air cooling is fine for me at the moment, maybe when I get a fatter wallet and can stand to take a hit if a WC unit leaks then I may venture into that area......until then.....better safe than sorry lol.

Layback Bear
11-25-09, 05:43 AM
I use a Thermaltake CL-P0114 120mm Big Typhoon CPU Cooler - and it has been working great for about two years.

Bobnova
11-25-09, 01:36 PM
water is not conductive. impurities are

If you want to be a pain about it, yes.
Pure (PURE) water is also hideously corrosive and will dissolve pretty much anything, and decently quickly. Presto! Impure conductive water. If you aren't in a high dollar chemistry lab you do not have pure water. That includes distilled water. Pure water quickly dissolves enough of the copper in the distillery to become conductive.

Hence, any water you can actually get into a cooling loop is conductive.
Any water you put into a cooling loop will become conductive within minutes.


On a more personal note, I recommend an attitude change, know-it-alls that like to lord their "knowledge" over other people aren't well liked.

Dmart01
11-25-09, 01:52 PM
Well I have put together my new build. Would like some opinions on it. It is the most I could afford to spend so please dont suggest anything higher priced. All items are from newegg minus the cooler.

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Case

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Motherboard

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply

Core i7 920 processor

Gskill dual channel kit 4gb

2 WD Caviar 500gb SATA drives in RAID0-both 7200rpm

Sony Optiarc 24x dvd burner

Prolimatech Megahalem Rev. B cpu cooler with 120x25 63cfm fan. Should I go with the 75cfm fan? Noise doesnt bother me.

GFX cards will be the dual 7950gt's in SLI that are in my current system.

Would like better gfx cards but its not in the budget :(

Thanks again for everyones help and input.

muddocktor
11-25-09, 02:03 PM
Looks good to me except that I would go with a triple channel kit of ram instead of a dual channel kit, since LGA1366 supports triple channel. The performance difference between dual and triple channel isn't much, but there is a slight performance difference from all I've read. And it would be hard later down the road to find a single stick of ram to match the dual channel kit in order to upgrade to 6 gigs of ram later down the road.

Dmart01
11-25-09, 02:34 PM
Looks good to me except that I would go with a triple channel kit of ram instead of a dual channel kit, since LGA1366 supports triple channel. The performance difference between dual and triple channel isn't much, but there is a slight performance difference from all I've read. And it would be hard later down the road to find a single stick of ram to match the dual channel kit in order to upgrade to 6 gigs of ram later down the road.

Yes, but why would I need 6gb?. I have had bad luck with 64bit operating systems. Alot of apps wont work and they dont have 64bit versions. If it wasnt for that id gladly upgrade the ram

xrodney
11-25-09, 03:27 PM
You are more likely run into program compatibility issues running Vista/Seven than 64/32bit.
I am running 64bit os since 2004 and never had much problems.
Most of programs that wont work in 64bit have either some programing issues or use some kind of drivers that would ofcourse not work in 64bit os if they are written for 32bit.
I would say 99% 32b applications run under 64b os and for that 1 remaining you can find alternatives. Exceptions are only highly specialized applications but except companies, not many people using them.

Dmart01
11-25-09, 03:44 PM
You are more likely run into program compatibility issues running Vista/Seven than 64/32bit.
I am running 64bit os since 2004 and never had much problems.
Most of programs that wont work in 64bit have either some programing issues or use some kind of drivers that would ofcourse not work in 64bit os if they are written for 32bit.
I would say 99% 32b applications run under 64b os and for that 1 remaining you can find alternatives. Exceptions are only highly specialized applications but except companies, not many people using them.

My problem was with finding 64 bit drivers for some hardware. Also, I have no cash left to buy a 64 bit os.

muddocktor
11-25-09, 07:47 PM
Then buy a 3 gig triple channel kit. You won't be able to use that last gig of a 4 gig kit with a 32 bit OS anyways.