Team Fortress 2 - Friendships DENIED!!!

[lordkosc]

TF2 update soon?

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/administrator/

:sn:

I can't wait to not have friends!!!!!! :D

[Marshmallow64]

I think maybe its setting up for the next demo or soldier update!

[lordkosc]

indeed... new stuff posted tonight!!!!!

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part1/index.htm

:D

[jgv115]

Valve have made a youtube video saying what the new weapons will be etc etc:

Deleted lame RickRoll'D prank/link

[Leviathan41]

Clever way to roll out the updates. I can't wait!

[Omsion]

Nice. Can't wait to see the explody stuff we'll get (hopefully)

[shard]

Valve have made a youtube video saying what the new weapons will be etc etc:

RickRoll'D link nuked

You are a bad boy.

[Neural Net]

You are a bad boy.

Shouldn't he get banned for that? Isn't it trolling essentially?

[Omsion]

Wow, it's been awhile since I've seen a RR.

[tinymouse2]

Offence vs defence? Seems like a bad idea... but shiny weapons does sound nice =)

[Red_LightRanger]

Shouldn't he get banned for that? Isn't it trolling essentially?

almost as lame as ******. It used to be funny, now 90% of youtube videos are rr.

[lordkosc]

ok I am old I guess... what is RR?

[hajalie24]

Those videos aren't annoying as the real rick roles lol.

[lordkosc]

Day 1 , war totals!!!

http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/wartotals_01.jpg

[UnrealAlex]

O man I'm reinstalling my TF2 :D I gotta get in on this

[Omsion]

Updates:

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part2/index.htm
http://www.teamfortress.com/propaganda/submit.php

[UnrealAlex]

I almost wana make a poster :D

[bLack0ut]

damn this is actually a really nice promotion... when i play demo i specifically go for the soldiers lol.

[nightelph]

Sweeeeeet, re-installing TF2.

[lordkosc]

moar updates

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part3/
http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm

[Leviathan41]

moar updates

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part3/
http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm

Haha, this is going to be the best update ever!

I love the Saxton Hale comic! :D

[Omsion]

That comic is awesome. That is all.

EDIT:
Oh yeah. Crafting. yah!
I love how that becomes an afterthought.

[jgv115]

Ahh I see. My 20 huntsmen and 20 natasha's will be of use to me. I'm excited

[freakdiablo]

FORWARD, MY SOLDIER BRETHREN :salute:

[UnrealAlex]

I'm so confused about this crafting stuff. Where do u pickup huntsmen and natashas? Where do you get items in general. I unlocked some with achievement buts thats all i have.

[Omsion]

I'm so confused about this crafting stuff. Where do u pickup huntsmen and natashas? Where do you get items in general. I unlocked some with achievement buts thats all i have.When playing, you randomly get items given to you. Don't recall the the exact numbers, but every 20 minutes of playtime, you have a 5% chance of getting an item (weapon). Hats are on a different timer with a different probability.

This is so you have a chance to get stuff for classes you suck at :p

[Leviathan41]

When playing, you randomly get items given to you. Don't recall the the exact numbers, but every 20 minutes of playtime, you have a 5% chance of getting an item (weapon). Hats are on a different timer with a different probability.

This is so you have a chance to get stuff for classes you suck at :p
The system "rolls" for an item every 25 minutes of play time and you have a 25% chance to get one each roll. And, yes, hats are more rare.

[UnrealAlex]

Is it possible to get a Huntsman and use it on my sniper if I dont have it unlocked?

[Nhut Pham]

If you receive the item you can use it.

I wanted soldiers to win, but strangely enough I have twice as many war kills as a demo. Soldiers look like they're gonna win though.

It's hard to make new weapons for these classes, they're such crucial classes. Be interesting to see what they come up with.

[UnrealAlex]

I've been playing a bit each day and have no additional items :(

I want soldiers to win because demomen are a pain in the butt, really not looking forward to them getting new stuff lol

[bLack0ut]

I've been playing a bit each day and have no additional items :(

I want soldiers to win because demomen are a pain in the butt, really not looking forward to them getting new stuff lol

QFT! Only the weak play soldiers! (I myself only play soldier when I am intoxicated, demoman at all other times)

[UnrealAlex]

QFT! Only the weak play soldiers! (I myself only play soldier when I am intoxicated, demoman at all other times)

Were you intoxicated when I read my post xD we have different goals u and I :P

[Wraith]

If you receive the item you can use it.

I wanted soldiers to win, but strangely enough I have twice as many war kills as a demo. Soldiers look like they're gonna win though.

It's hard to make new weapons for these classes, they're such crucial classes. Be interesting to see what they come up with.


I would imagine the demoman weapons will be a detpack in the form of a few sticks of dynamite as seen in some of the meet the x videos. Perhaps the soldier will actually get grenades ala Team Fortress? Or is that too good to be true?

[Omsion]

Don't think they'll go the route of nades or detpacks (well, maybe I see a slim chance for a detpack that has major drawbacks).

Dunno. I'd personally like to see melee weapons that crit while in mid-air just for the amusement factor of dive-shoveling/bottling people :p

[Leviathan41]

I really can't lose in this war, the Soldier is my most played class and the demo is my second most played class. Either way, I'm happy. :)

I'm ready for an update. I hope they reveal an unlock or two tonight.

[GBH]

GO DEMO!!

[UnrealAlex]

I freaking hate Demoman, he's so overpowered. I never play him but it was a close quarter fight with lots of corners so I took him and went like 12-2 in like 3 minutes. Just annoying how easy it is to spam grenades and get kills.

Lately I find it very hard to have fun in team fortress. Whenever I lose it's always because our team has more snipers than medics. Snipers are worse than demomen. Even on close quarter maps I see like 3/12 people on the team being snipers. I gotta start playing on class limited servers lol...

[Omsion]

I freaking hate Demoman, he's so overpowered. I never play him but it was a close quarter fight with lots of corners so I took him and went like 12-2 in like 3 minutes. Just annoying how easy it is to spam grenades and get kills.

Lately I find it very hard to have fun in team fortress. Whenever I lose it's always because our team has more snipers than medics. Snipers are worse than demomen. Even on close quarter maps I see like 3/12 people on the team being snipers. I gotta start playing on class limited servers lol...Demoman actually aren't that annoying to me - they're very very difficult to play anywhere without a corridor, and have no close combat to speak of (amusingly, something that is rectified by one of the item updates). Once your team breaks past a demo lock down, they can't do anything about it because they can't hit you (I'm excepting the really good ones, though, but those are really far and few between).

And of course, everyone hates the snipers :p

Anyway, updates:
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part4/index.htm
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/
http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1

Items are:
Sword - replacement for bottle (?), reduced HP, gain HP on hit or killing opponent (looks like kill to me), guaranteed decapitation on kill
Shield - replaces sticky nades, reduces fire damage by 50% and explosive damange by 65%, alt-fire charges at scout+ speed (does damage too), sword hits crits after mid-long distance charge.

[UnrealAlex]

Demoman actually aren't that annoying to me - they're very very difficult to play anywhere without a corridor, and have no close combat to speak of (amusingly, something that is rectified by one of the item updates). Once your team breaks past a demo lock down, they can't do anything about it because they can't hit you (I'm excepting the really good ones, though, but those are really far and few between).

And of course, everyone hates the snipers :p

Anyway, updates:
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part4/index.htm
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/
http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1

Items are:
Sword - replacement for bottle (?), reduced HP, gain HP on hit or killing opponent (looks like kill to me), guaranteed decapitation on kill
Shield - replaces sticky nades, reduces fire damage by 50% and explosive damange by 65%, alt-fire charges at scout+ speed (does damage too), sword hits crits after mid-long distance charge.

Damn that looks fun lol.
Did you notice the 3rd crate had "Sco ...Res" written on it, scottish res_?

[Nebulous]

You know I bought this game and still haven't played it, lol

[UnrealAlex]

Anyone else having this "glitch" where you join a server that says like 25/32, and its empty? Is it some kind of hack that the hosts do on purpose? Really annoying

[Omsion]

Anyone else having this "glitch" where you join a server that says like 25/32, and its empty? Is it some kind of hack that the hosts do on purpose? Really annoyingYah, some servers lie to you.

Usually if you right click -> view server info, you can get a real count. If right click gives "server not responding", usually its a liar.

Anyway, my list of servers are:
Stompfest - I mainly play here
SourceOP
voogru

[UnrealAlex]

Arg that just ****es me off. Really makes me more mad than it should, wish Valve did something about it.

[shard]

Arg that just ****es me off. Really makes me mode mad than it should, wish Valve did something about it.

They did, they added a server rating system. Not really sure how that panned out though.

[Marshmallow64]

Yea their original weapons are so powerful already, I am quite interested in what they will make for them. Same with the engineer.

[burningcpu]

If my team is doing well, and keeping the other team reasonably locked down, I am a force multiplier when playing sniper. I'll end up getting most of the kills. However, if my team isn't able to protect me, and I keep getting pwned by spies and scouts, I switch to another class. In that situation a sniper isn't useful. A heavy or other offensive class is needed.

To sum it up, I think that snipers are most useful when the team is already balanced.

I personally find the average spy to be less useful than the average sniper. The average spy tends to do his own thing, and go many minutes between kills and sapps. When I play spy it is to fulfill a specific purpose, like sapping a difficult to reach sentry, or to harass their snipers into changing classes. There are of course really good spies that advance the mission, but most seem completely separated from the team's goals.

[Marshmallow64]

I like the idea of hats and new weapons for each class. But crafting even more items? I think its getting a little out of hand now.

[Omsion]

I like the idea of hats and new weapons for each class. But crafting even more items? I think its getting a little out of hand now.I think it's pretty clear it's talking about crafting soldier/demo weapons before you can get them through achievements or random drops, not random items.

Anyway, latest update:
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part5/index.htm
4,923,531 dead soldiers
5,056,134 dead demos
Demomen are catching up - wonder how they reversed that trend?

http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1
Replacement for RL - Direct Hit
Increased rocket speed (80%), increased damage (25%), mini-crits on mid-air opponents, lowered splash radius (70%)

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/soldier/
Comic

Also, free weekend coming up.

[sandyduff]

I just started playing this the other day... why it has taken me so long to do so is beyond me... it is amazing!! So much fun!!

Neb you got to give it a go!! I'm serious sandy if anyone wants to add me to steam :D

[Marshmallow64]

^ O thank goodness thank you for clearing that up. I got the wrong impression from reading other forums that there were going to be random items like in an RPG. I cant see the direct teamfortress site right now since its blocked at work >_<

[UnrealAlex]

Hmm I'm not too happy with the new soldier weapon. Guess its more of a close range weapon.

[Marshmallow64]

Seems like it will be way more powerful than the first one. But maybe thats since I am usually accurate with the rocket, so it benifits sharp shooters. The extra speed seems like it will be hard to dodge.

[Omsion]

A 70% reduction in splash radius is pretty significant, however. That's a 37x decrease in splash volume. Close range weapon, it is not (since close range soldier fighting relies heavily on splash damage). Have fun trying to hit that bouncy scout...although if you do hit him, he's probably dead :p

Your crits will be much less effective and you won't be a kritz medic target of choice. Also, reduced splash might make it more difficult to juggle people into the air, something that you regularly do as a soldier to get consistent hits in. Definitely don't think it will be an easy weapon to use.

Or who knows, that extra speed might make it always the better choice for general usage.

[UnrealAlex]

I figure it for close range because its easier to hit the person at close range and also theres less splash so youre not hurt as much. Still, pretty lame unlock imo. Something like a heat seeking missile that hits people on fire woulda been sweet :D

[Leviathan41]

Sounds like a good solid side-grade, which is good. I wish they would hurry up and update tonight, it's getting late. :)

[watchthisspace]

Sounds like a good solid side-grade, which is good. I wish they would hurry up and update tonight, it's getting late. :)

Is the update meant to come out tonight?

[Remove]

Wow how TF2 has turned into a whiners delight. In the beginning good FPS players were rewarded for being good FPS players. Now they have watered down every class to make game completely not worth the effort of logging in. Every class is equal, 1 shot kills abound and mediocrity rules the day.

...and WTH is with the soldier vs demo crap. You should be able to filter servers running that garbage out of your choices before you join.

Guess CS:S is back on the menu. meh sauce

[UnrealAlex]

I'd say the opposite, game is seriosly imbalanced. Pyro and engineers are so gimped right now. Everytime I try to be engineer, all it takes is one soldier to shoot my turret out of range or one engineer to sticky around corners, not to mention spies and ubers. Whats more is maps dont have the checkpoints they used to cause Valve decided to add a bunch of walk-arounds thus making turrets even less effective...The time it takes to build stuff up to lvl 3 is too long for how easy it is to destroy everything. And now soldier is getting a rocket that's faster and does more dmg, awesome! Who knows what else they get, maybe they'll get artillery that automatically rains down on engineers.

[Impar]

Greetings!

Demoman got the Eylander sword, the Charging Targe shield and the Scottish Resistance sticker:
http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_3

Soldier got the Direct Hit launcher, the Equalizer pick and the Buff Banner:
http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_2

As for the War, Demomen are recovering, but Soldiers still lead:
5.742K dead Demomens
5,727K dead Soldiers

[UnrealAlex]

Wow freakin close! I gotta clock in some Soldier time tomorrow, dont want demomen to get stronger lol

When do the new weapons go live?

[Omsion]

Wait what?
Spray of Defeat - Use a grenade to gib a player

And lol -
Crockets Are Such B.S. - Shoot two non-boosted crit rockets in a row.

Wow how TF2 has turned into a whiners delight. In the beginning good FPS players were rewarded for being good FPS players. Now they have watered down every class to make game completely not worth the effort of logging in. Every class is equal, 1 shot kills abound and mediocrity rules the day.

...and WTH is with the soldier vs demo crap. You should be able to filter servers running that garbage out of your choices before you join.

Guess CS:S is back on the menu. meh sauceWhat 1 shot kills? No one was given any one-shot kills, in any update. The only one-shots were always there - demo stickies, situational, always there; spy backstabs, situational, always there; sniper headshots, situational, always there. And for the most part, despite all these updates, all the classes still play the same way they always have.

I can see your point with the demo soldier war, but even so, the servers I frequent don't have this problem (even without class limits), because at the end of the day, other classes are useful and still contribute.

[Marshmallow64]

Yea demo too strong already lol, need to help the battle with soldier tonight also.

[Remove]

My son setup the original game from the retail copies to run on a lan only system. No updates! Woot. Original TF2 again. :D

[Angel-of-Sorrow]

Wait what?
Spray of Defeat - Use a grenade to gib a player

Equalizer taunt, apparently. Soldier takes one of the grenades off his chest and JIHAD suicides, killing any enemies within the small blast radius.

[lordkosc]

update is OUT!

Update Changelog
Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

Team Fortress 2

New Content


Added new control point map Gorge

Added new capture the flag map Double Cross

Added item crafting

Added work-in-progress TF Bots for beta testing in KOTH maps (blog post coming with more info)

Added headshot death animations

Added more backstab animations


Soldier

Added 35 new Soldier achievements

Added 4 new Soldier items

Added new Soldier Domination lines


Demoman

Added 35 new Demoman achievements

Added 3 new Demoman items

Added new Demoman Domination lines


Spy

Now pretends to be carrying the weapons & wearables of the target he's disguised as

Moved the Spy's camera-beard to the Misc loadout slot so he can equip it with a hat


Scout

The Sandman now only stuns on a max range hit (when you hear the cheering)

All shorter hits now force the enemy into the thirdperson fleeing state (also removed the damage reduction on them)


Minor changes

Added new options to the Multiplayer->Advanced dialog:

Combat text, which displays damage amounts you do to enemies.

Medic auto caller, which automatically shows you nearby friends at low health.

Heal target marker, which better highlights the target your medigun is locked onto.

Alternative Spy disguise menu, which lets you choose disguises using just the 1-3 keys.

Fixed being able to affect friendly pipes with airblast (they would unstick)

Added recharge sound to abilities with a recharge bar

Fixed attachable wearables not staying on ragdolls

Players no longer see the wearables that are a part of a friendly spy's disguise, fixing various graphical glitches

Added jiggle bones for Pyro's chicken hat

Added 2 new game startup songs


Community Mapmaker requests

Implemented InputSetSetupTime() for team_round_timer (was in the .fgd but never implemented)

Added "SetDispenserLevel" input to cart dispenser (1, 2, or 3)

[jgv115]

The steam servers are laggying like ****.

So heres a tip for ocforum's fellow members:

choose a different server (like south korea) where it is still the morning or something. Don't do Australia cause it's 12pm over here. I couldn't even update using australian servers

[Marshmallow64]

OMG its out! But I cant play, so laggy.

[UnrealAlex]

Ive been playing for a few hours. Made me feel like crap cause I was doing so bad lol :( only got like 4 soldier achievments. FFFFFFUUUUU.

Everyone is either a soldier or demoman, never any medics. Thanks valve, a lot of fun....not

[Omsion]

Bots? Bots!? They might only be beta and KOTH, but that's sweet!

I had a good deal of fun co-oping with a buddy against bots with RCBot (http://rcbot.bots-united.com/) some time ago in TF2. 24 scouts vs 2 of us + 6 heavies = lol.

Also, more UI improvements are nice as well. Combat text might be a bit too much info, though...you know exactly what weapon you can switch to to kill (mainly you know when going rocket->shotgun is a good idea), or if you should continue to focus fire on the dude running away rather than switch targets.

Combat text, which displays damage amounts you do to enemies.
Medic auto caller, which automatically shows you nearby friends at low health.
Heal target marker, which better highlights the target your medigun is locked onto.
Alternative Spy disguise menu, which lets you choose disguises using just the 1-3 keys.

EDIT:
Since this wasn't actually stated outright from anyone above (was in the notes, but can easily be overlooked), Soldier won.
4th item are "Gunboats" - boots that reduce RJ damage (and no drawbacks, so far as I can read)
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/victory/

[UnrealAlex]

Drawback is you dont get a shotgun. I already found them.

Playing TF2 is awful right now, everyone is going crazy trying to get achievments sigh, i want a normal game lol

[Leviathan41]

Drawback is you dont get a shotgun. I already found them.

Playing TF2 is awful right now, everyone is going crazy trying to get achievments sigh, i want a normal game lol
Heh, I never even bother playing TF2 on update night, it's not worth it. I'll pick it up over the weekend when it has settled down a bit.

This is an awesome update though! <3 Valve

[Marshmallow64]

I dunno if im not use to it, but so far that demo shield and sword combo seem super cheap. Damage resistance and charging. In the game there were like 3 of these demos like this camping around the cart and they were like invincible and killing everything.

[Omsion]

I dunno if im not use to it, but so far that demo shield and sword combo seem super cheap. Damage resistance and charging. In the game there were like 3 of these demos like this camping around the cart and they were like invincible and killing everything.One heavy should take care of that - remember it's only damage resistance to explosions and fire damage (and they have less HP, at least initially). Presumably it's only an issue now because evreyone is playing explodey classes rather than shooty ones.

[UnrealAlex]

One heavy should take care of that - remember it's only damage resistance to explosions and fire damage (and they have less HP, at least initially). Presumably it's only an issue now because evreyone is playing explodey classes rather than shooty ones.

Heavy, a short range class, is now a thing of the past, along with medics and often pyros. Everytime I try it it's hard enough to survive without being backstabbed, sniped, or pummeled with grenades and stickies let alone to get a medic. TF2 used to be rock paper scissors, now its scissors scissors paper

[Marshmallow64]

yea heavies need their move speed increased a bit or more life =).

I guess a heavy is a good couter to that demoman, but he is really the only one I can think of other than an engineer. Pyros were suppose to own anything at close range, now that targe makes things different.

[lordkosc]

Played soldier a bit today, unlocked the first 2 milestones , I really like the bugle :D

[Omsion]

Played soldier a bit today, unlocked the first 2 milestones , I really like the bugle :DDamn you. Steam refuses to hand out the goodies - I've had the milestones for ages. :cry:

Of course, by ages, I mean half a day.

[lordkosc]

3 more achievements and i will have soldier milestone 3, w00t. I have to say, the achievement where you rocket someone into the air and then shotgun them is difficult for some reason.

then to work on the demo-man.

[Angel-of-Sorrow]

All Milestones received, got all items except my Bugle because of Valve's Steam Cloud crap.
Also received a Camera Beard and the Gunboats.

[lordkosc]

I want the Gunboats :|

[UnrealAlex]

I want the Gunboats :|

I found them rather quickly :D

Too bad I suck at soldier. I dont get the crafting system. If I want the 2nd scout shotgun, how do I craft it?

[Omsion]

Frigging hell.

Still 0 drops (and it's certainly not from lack of playing), 0 items from milestones. No new items = I'm stuck on achievements to get items.

[Marshmallow64]

Looks like bug, I have been playing forever and no drops....

[Angel-of-Sorrow]

I found them rather quickly :D

Too bad I suck at soldier. I dont get the crafting system. If I want the 2nd scout shotgun, how do I craft it?

Takes three parts to craft a gun.

Three of the same weapon for scrap metal.

Four Scout items for a Scout Token. If you don't have a FaN, then you'd need any combination of four Scout items. Say; Bonk, Bonk, Bonk and a Sandman.

Four primary weapons for a Slot Token. So lets say; Natascha, Backburner, Backburner, Blutsauger. Pretty sure they need to be from different classes or it'll end up as a Class Token.

Then craft the Scrap Metal, Primary Slot Token and Scout Class Token together.

[lordkosc]

119 gentlemen...

http://www.teamfortress.com/119/

enjoy your free medals :D

[shard]

119 gentlemen...

http://www.teamfortress.com/119/

enjoy your free medals :D

And thanks to this update, I now cant play anymore. My FPS is sooo incredibly bad. Barely stays within 30-40fps looking at a wall or sky. And my system is not that bad at all.

[lordkosc]

i get random crashes to desktop now :D

[tinymouse2]

Random crashes, VERY low FPS (down to 25-30 minimum compared to 113 minimum when it was first released. I have acquired a copy of the original version without any updates, runs amazingly well) and weapons that make playing a serious game impossible.
I mean I can no longer just go along to UKCS for example without dying every second due to some crappy new weapon with some obscure special ability.

It was my favourite MP game, no longer.

[ratbuddy]

Seems like the more crap they added, the less I played. New maps every few months would have been plenty. The game is just a mess now.