GF4 4600 3dmark comparison.

[Placid]

Check the out the 4600 using fsaa in 3dmark 2001.

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2551018

And without fsaa.

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2550927

Not bad for a eng. sample and beta drivers.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Where did you get that from? When are they going to be released?

[Placid]

It's not mine, I wish I could get stuff like that :)

Nvidia will be posting info feb 6th as to what and when on the gf4'
s.

[DarkArctic]

That's bestly. I want that card. It even kicked my butt with FSAA on. Is the 4600 the hardcore card or the value card?

-DarkArctic

[Placid]

Hardcore from the "rumors" I have read.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Yeah but you spen the 400$ they sell it for then the next 2 months they come out with the Geforce 4 Ti200 then the next month G4 ti500. I bought my Geforce 6 months ago when they first come out. And no game used the powers it possesed then, and still don't use the powers it possess now. I have recently upgraded to the Gainward Ti550 which still isn't being used. It is nice to say yeah I got this and here is my bench, but there will always be something better coming out next month, someone will always be faster. You can't go around saying well im waiting for this im going to wait a few more months for that. You have to just buy something you could wait forever on the newest thing. Wel I started rambling there for a bit, but well I lost track now. thanks for the cookies. Bye.

[trey_w]

i sorry if this is a stupid question, but the 1st link for the GeForce4, i beat by 200 points

then the 2nd, i get whooped by 1000 points.

everything looks the same, did i miss something, there must be a difference in the test?

[BigRed]

3dmark doesnt have the new features that are used in the gf4 programed into it so you wont see much of an improvment until the software starts using the new features in the new card.

[Placid]

The 1st link is a test with fsaa, it's a option in 3dmark.

[trey_w]

Thanks Placid, i new there had to be a setting, i just got tired of looking for one

the difference in the second score with my setup was like me running in 640 res mode vs. them @ 1024 mode

[Dissolved]

theres a 20+ page thread on 3dmark about that guy with the gf4.. it maybe a trick or scam.. i read 9 pages, and got bored..

[Wega!]

If this is the GF4, I am not impressed. My Radeon 8500 does only a little worse that the GF4. That card should be kicking my but... But it's not :eh?:

[GoldenTiger]

Chipset: "Unknown"

I don't think that's for real... probably just a hacked driver and a huge overclock.

[Placid]

How would you "hack" a driver to show 128mb of memory?

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Yes we are all beating this card in the comparison, but are you OC. I bet this card isn't. that kinda 3dmark score with no OC is impressive. I hit 9260 but i still think that is impressive. If it can hit that with no OC what can it do with a OC. Peple without water cooling would be able to possible get to the 10000 mark and I am sure It will do it. The drivers it is using help me back around 500 points in 3Dmark.

[deathstar13]

this is how i feel about the gf4.
from what ive seen using the new 27.20 betas is that the det drivers are the main key to both cards working at there best potential.
even my gf3ti500 isnt running its best incertain ereas. and when i compare my scores to those of the gf4 you can see its a driver issue.
http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2550927 either both cards are neck and neck or mine gets blown away by a 50% margain, in certain tests. and in testing this driver earlier this week this is the same kind of results i got also. 4.13.01.2720 , 6.13.10.2720
the first driver is mine the second is his.
to me when it comes down to it the gf4 ISNT a big improvement at the moment. and if both cards using the same driver i would expect no less than a 10% increase in performance.

i would almost bet you wont see a gf4 hit the market till the driver issue is corrected and maximised. i wouldnt pay double either for a 10% increase in performance.

[wolfsid]

why in the first link is shows Compared System 0 fsb how is that exacly Is this a edited picture or what...

also is says chipset missing

[GoldenTiger]

I agree... same case with me some spots it whomps me and others it's low as heck. I bet they have the drivers set by now, but whoever leaked this 3dmark doesn't have em :D. Nvidia will have em ready in time... they haven't publicly released the GF4-tailored dets since it isn't out yet though :). Still isn't going to stop me from getting a Ti4400 128mb on day 1 :D.

P.S. I have a Gainward GF3 VIVO for sale, $250 shipped OBO... email me at goldentiger@987.info (yes, .info is a real extension, launched in October) if interested!!

Originally posted by deathstar13
this is how i feel about the gf4.
from what ive seen using the new 27.20 betas is that the det drivers are the main key to both cards working at there best potential.
even my gf3ti500 isnt running its best incertain ereas. and when i compare my scores to those of the gf4 you can see its a driver issue.
http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectType=6&projectId=2550927 either both cards are neck and neck or mine gets blown away by a 50% margain, in certain tests. and in testing this driver earlier this week this is the same kind of results i got also. 4.13.01.2720 , 6.13.10.2720
the first driver is mine the second is his.
to me when it comes down to it the gf4 ISNT a big improvement at the moment. and if both cards using the same driver i would expect no less than a 10% increase in performance.

i would almost bet you wont see a gf4 hit the market till the driver issue is corrected and maximised. i wouldnt pay double either for a 10% increase in performance.

[Maximus Nickus]

Well my score is 8562 and it gets 8612.

My CPU is only 1335Mhz and my FSB was 166.
No oc on the graphics card.

And I just got some new drivers through....

For a nearly 1.7Ghz CPU in it I think that is poor.

Unless 3Dmark 2001 doesn't use it very well. I mean 3Dmark 2000 doesn't give me much more than 2001....

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Well the recent 3dmark doesn't fully test the Gf4 since it isn't out yet. Just as Sandra keeps updating to give a better bench for the new chipset so Will Invidia. But as I said before a straight stock CPU and Video card hitting that high is impressive. everyone says that doesn't hit as high as mine, i reach higher than that. But what do you hit straight out hte box. Barely 8200? Well what you think of it now?

[wolfsid]

THEY ARE GOING ON SALE IN 3 days http://www.nvmax.com/cgi-bin/nvmax.pl?action=news&num=1012660216

[GoldenTiger]

The vendor says "in 3+ days", not "available in three days". It isn't coming out in 3 days, probably 4 or 5 :D!

[Angry]

I see no reason why Nvidia is bring out the G4 so freaking soon, I mean almost less than a yr!

This in my opinion is rediculas....

[wolfsid]

Originally posted by Angry
I see no reason why Nvidia is bring out the G4 so freaking soon, I mean almost less than a yr!

This in my opinion is rediculas....

I love it I just wish the the cpus came out faster..:D :cool:

[Dark Illusion]

It's because nVidia as an aggressive 6month product cycle. Doesn't mean they'll come out w/ an innovation evry 6 months, just a ultra version of their former. But they still put them out every 6 months.

[Vinny]

Why are we even talking about this...? You people know how it works. Frist nvidia makes a new card every 6-8 months and takes the market. The ATI comes out with a faster card with crap drivers, and all the fan boys buy that.....Hmmm, sounds like the Mac-PC race.
ANYWAY,
I think the 8500 is the best BUY for the next 3 days. :) I heard that the gf4 is going to be 200-300.
ATI PEOPLE YOU HAVE 3 MORE DAYS OF GOLY ENJOY IT!! :p

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Don't know about you but, I haven't ran across a ATI that can challenge me. meaning with my CPU speed. Of course if you have one with a 200FSB it will do it, but I sit at the top of my chain of CPUs. So ATI ain't got nothing for me. But laughs.

[Maximus Nickus]

Well @ 133FSB non-overclocked CPU is 1.33Ghz I get 8300.

Overclocked hits 9K.

With my new 2,5Ghz T-Bred i'll go well over 11k

Can a Gf4 challenge that? NO

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Well....Uhhum... Let me clear my thorat. First of all how do you know what a Gf4 will do? Second with mine at 133FSB non oc at all, I hit 8665. Oc i hit 9100+. So yes my Gf3 can challenge that.
Saying can a GF4 challenge that is like saying will the 2600XP challenge the 2.8Ghz Intel. You don't know it isn't out yet you are making blind observations. When it hits the streets we will see. The ATI is a strong card and I almost bought one....ALMOST....
WHen I saw the lame drivers and the low scores they were hitting i said never mind. WIth that kinda Ramdac and GPU it should do much better than what it does. Actually yours is probablly the best ATI I have heard of. The one with the 3dmark score isn't hitting that. on my system just different Video. Which is why I say I havent' seen one with my similar setup worth a damn. And still havent.... i bet the GF4 will blow the xsistors of your ATI. hehe like the transistor part don't you???. Any way. doesn't matter it isn't out yet and when it is we will see some results then.

[Maximus Nickus]

ummmm, how fast us your CPU?

A 300Mhz CPU increase adds over 1K to 3DMark. (AMD CPU'S)

SO in affect @ default mines kicks your PC's a**!!!!!

Seriously though maybe I sohuldn't have said that about the GF4 as I haven't really seen what it can do.

However I don't think its that much better than an 8500.
Espicially when ATi gets there drivers out.

[Placid]

Here is another supposed GF4 4600.
11565 3Dmark score.

http://vr-zone.com/cgi-bin/vb/showthread.php?threadid=2669

[SuperFLyJimmy]

At 133FSB 1900XP. I can get up to 8665. No OC anywhere.
Now I said the ATI is a good card, just ATI has lacking driver support. But, as I also stated. When you upload you scores you can compare your system to systems with the same CPU and different Video cards. Well mine is at the top of that list. And i did give you your props on your ATI. I said it is the best ATI I have seen, and well deserved with your setup. Im sure if I underclocked my CPU to your settings you would woop me pretty good. But, Im not going to humiliate my self like that :). And as I said before it is all just numbers. If your Video card does what you want it to then just be happy. There is no game that uses a Geforce 3 let alone a Geforce 4. For that matter there really isn't anything out there( except a graphics deisgner, or similar lines) That even calls for the need over a 1Ghz CPU. But it is still fun to have the latest and greates and stomp the scores out. You said you are waiting on a 2.5Ghz Thrbred. Isn't that a ways off? they don't even have the 2.2 out yet. 2.5 is still probably a year away.
Inel is suppose to be moving the 2.4 out this Month. and be at the 3Ghz range by the end of the year( per last Bum meeting) will see if it happens.

[Malakai]

superfly jimmy, do u have the 450 or Ti550?
my score is like an 8160 with the card at 240/550.
i have the same fsb and processor(although mine started as a 1600):D
what clock speeds is ur card running at?

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Ti 550 right now 255/587

[OC-Master]

On an average PC, the GeForce4 4600 should easily break the 12000 point 3Dmark2001 result due to 2nd gen light speed memory architextrue. The 2nd vertex shader will also add to the huge point score.

[Maximus Nickus]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy
At 133FSB 1900XP. I can get up to 8665. No OC anywhere.
Now I said the ATI is a good card, just ATI has lacking driver support. But, as I also stated. When you upload you scores you can compare your system to systems with the same CPU and different Video cards. Well mine is at the top of that list. And i did give you your props on your ATI. I said it is the best ATI I have seen, and well deserved with your setup. Im sure if I underclocked my CPU to your settings you would woop me pretty good. But, Im not going to humiliate my self like that :). And as I said before it is all just numbers. If your Video card does what you want it to then just be happy. There is no game that uses a Geforce 3 let alone a Geforce 4. For that matter there really isn't anything out there( except a graphics deisgner, or similar lines) That even calls for the need over a 1Ghz CPU. But it is still fun to have the latest and greates and stomp the scores out. You said you are waiting on a 2.5Ghz Thrbred. Isn't that a ways off? they don't even have the 2.2 out yet. 2.5 is still probably a year away.
Inel is suppose to be moving the 2.4 out this Month. and be at the 3Ghz range by the end of the year( per last Bum meeting) will see if it happens.


When i'm at 1GHz I was at the top of the list by 18%!!!:eek:

The 2Ghz T-Bred is due in March and as its .13Micron and at the beggining of the new manufactoring process, + it runs at a lower VCore they should overclock to 2.5Ghz easy, and 3Ghz with watercooling is possible. (Think I always get about a 30% overclock with +.10V with +.20V I should get about 50%!!! 3Ghz:eek: :eek: :eek: )
I can't wait!!!
Like you said tho after that upgrade I'm just gonna save instead of buying separate parts as no game needs more than a 800Mhz CPU 265MB Ram (max) and a G2 GTS.

My system just runs at a higher framerate which is not noticible to the eye.

But its great for boasting!!


Nick

[OC-Master]

AMD + 2GHz = May/June

AMD will release the first set of T-bred's in March including the XP2000 and XP2200.

In April, AMD will push out one last Athlon under the 2GHz mark which is the XP2400.

May will probally be the month of joy for AMD.