Does anyone know if Bioshock 2 will support DirectX 11?

[tinymouse2]

So I've pre-ordered Bioshock 2 but I can't find anywhere saying if it'll support DX11. I'm pretty sure it'll support DX10 since Bioshock 1 supported it but will it support 11?

Just wondering if anyone had some unreleased info that they would like to share :D

[lordkosc]

found this on the internets

After the DirectX 10, Microsoft released a DirectX 11 with Direct3D 11 Preview that also announced support for the Games for DX11. DirectX 11 for Windows Vista and the main Windows 7, an increase of a lot of new features and support of open standards. DirectX 11 with Direct3D 11 is the preview version in March 2009 version of DirectX, this version can install on Windows 7, the installation will be displayed after the DirectX 11. XP installed in the show on DirectX 9.

DX11 Supporting the Games are as follows:

* "Splinter Cell: conviction" (Splinter Cell: Conviction)
* "Dust 2" (Dirt 2)
* "Need for Speed 13: variable" (Need for Speed: Shift)
* "Crysis" new (Crysis Next)
* "BioShock 2" (Bioshock 2)
* "Mafia 2" (Mafia II)
* "Half-Life 2 Part III" (Half-Life 2 Ep3)
* "Dragon's Century: The origin of" (Dragon Age Origins)
* "Mass Effect 2" (Mass Effect 2)
* "Two Worlds 2" (Two World's 2)
* "StarCraft 2: Wings of Freedom" (StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty)

can't find a official statement...

[tinymouse2]

Yeh I can find all that but their all based on rumors (ME2 for example doesn't support DX11)
So yeh I'm not trusting those sources.

[lordkosc]

I check the 2k forums, BioShock 2 uses a modified version of Unreal Engine 2.5 according to the 2K forums, so no DX11 , evar...

[tinymouse2]

I saw that as well but you never know. By mod they could mean completely redone :P
In a way I want it to support DX11 but I only have a DX10 card so me being selfish I don't want it to support DX11 until I get one :P

[don'tknow]

Oh, wth is Unreal Engine 2.5? I must be really dumb, thought the original game ran on UE3.0 so I went to check and it's also on UE2.5. Never heard of an engine in between 2.0 and 3.0 til now.

[lordkosc]

reading various sources online, Unreal 2.5 has "some" of the features of Unreal 3.0 engine. Hence why it supports DX10.

[Hardin]

No Bioshock used the 3.0 engine along with most games the past few years. Unreal Engine 2.5 is long dead. Bioshock 2 probably uses the upgraded engine from Gears of War 2 like Mass Effect 2. UE3 supports dx 10 so it wouldn't be that hard to make it dx 11. The first Bioshock was dx 10.

[lordkosc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock

says unreal 2.5 with 3.0 features...

then again... its Wikipedia , so it could be wrong.

reading a few different websites, it said it was created on the Unreal 2.5 Vengeance engine, and then ported to Unreal 3.0 to use some of its features.

anyway.... the screens for it look awesome :D

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/downloads

[Hardin]

The same website, wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games#Unreal_Engine_3

You can see Bioshock and Bioshock 2.

[lordkosc]

http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/big-games-2010-inside-2k-games-bioshock-2

Frankly, I’m an Unreal fan and I have been since the beginning of my career as a designer,” said Jordan Thomas, creative director on Bioshock 2. “Today, our version of Unreal is its own animal. It started with Unreal and then branched out into a lot of different, very custom things that our teams have layered on top of that base.”

Thomas said the fact that Bioshock 2, which pushes the visuals that wowed critics and gamers alike in the first game, is still running on Unreal 2.5 definitely speaks to the technology’s versatility. He said that while there has been a lot of formidable engineering work done by the Bioshock 1 and 2 teams, which he wouldn’t want to discount, but he believes it’s fairly impressive that Unreal is able to make a game like Bioshock 2 after being customized that much.”

and..

“For Bioshock 2, we had someone write volumetric fog on the rendering side, we added ambient inclusion, which we baked into our levels, and the AI system’s been completely re-written,” said de la Plante. “There’s a lot of stuff in there, so it’s not a lot like stock Unreal 2.5. It’s almost unrecognizable. In fact, we have the entire shader system from Unreal 3 in this game. We liked what Epic had done so they bolted it onto our version of Unreal.”

so its bits of both engines :sn:

[tinymouse2]

The screenies look amazing yes, hopefully the storyline will hold itself together.
OH and a better ending... twas the only thing that really annoyed me about Bioshock 1.

[tinymouse2]

Oh also I'm getting annoyed with http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/big-games-2010-inside-2k-games-bioshock-2

It's saying I'm not old enough... June 21st 1990. Even when I lie to it and say I'm 40 or something it still says I'm underage O.o what?

[lordkosc]

wierd, it works for me .... delete your cookies maybe and try again?

[baris_]

I guess you should just wait for it ^^

[Hardin]

The video didn't work for me either, says I'm not old enough. But that's interesting that they use both engines.

[pejsaboy]

Guess I'm going to have to finish the first one here pretty soon. I think I'm only about half way through :\

[deathman20]

I don't even think half of those games support DX11...

ME2, BioShock2, Dragon Age for sure is only DX10.

HL2:EP3 thought that was suppose to be DX10. I know from what the Dirt2 guys where saying it doesn't take long to implament DX11 but thought they are aiming for DX10 still.

NFS:Shift has DX11? I know it has DX10, was that released after the game was out?

[Hardin]

The list isn't accurate at all. The majority of those games do not have dx 11 support and it probably will not be added. These are the ones that we know for sure have dx 11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support

[nightelph]

Regardless... One more day! I'm wicked excited, and lucky to have the day off. :D

Steam won't let me pre-load it which kinda stinks.

[lordkosc]

meh, I won't get my hands on this till Thursday... Can't wait to re-visit Rapture :D

[Niku-Sama]

its very strange that its using 2.5

i dont think thats right, infact from the horses mouth:
http://www.unrealtechnology.com/case-studies.php?ref=bioshock

origonal bioshock information from the game engine makers site. first line even. i trust that over any wiki any day.

[lordkosc]

well I am about 40 minutes in, and it feels like Bioshock, and that is a good thing, as I seemed to have missed it quite a lot :D , gotta love Amazon release day delivery

[baris_]

well I am about 40 minutes in, and it feels like Bioshock, and that is a good thing, as I seemed to have missed it quite a lot :D , gotta love Amazon release day delivery

So is it 11?

[lordkosc]

I dunno, I only have a DX10 card =p

[twEEkerAreUs]

No, it doesn't. DX9 and DX10 only.

[tinymouse2]

Yup I have it as well ^_^
I thought it was terrible when I started but I've really gotten into it now. Like I said I'm kinda happy because I'm a selfish bugger with a DX10 card =P
Would have been interesting to see.

[whooping_a_panda]

Oh also I'm getting annoyed with http://www.gamerlive.tv/article/big-games-2010-inside-2k-games-bioshock-2

It's saying I'm not old enough... June 21st 1990. Even when I lie to it and say I'm 40 or something it still says I'm underage O.o what?

i cant view the video either, and I'm 24. it must have some of that ultra porn in it.
Oh, now I'll need a fake ID to buy ultra-porn.

[tinymouse2]

Whatever it is it must be VERY kinky indeed :D

Also Games for Windows live is doing it to me as well. Apparently I need parental consent to activate my online account? I would have thought that being 19 is good enough. So now there's no more MP for me :( Sticking with my offline account.

[Niku-Sama]

there is something more about your setup if its not letting you view things due to "age"

is it your comp and are you admin?

[HolyJustice]

I just start to play Bioshock 2, and I am very disappointed. Graphic engine
that is used 2,5 Unreal engine is old. Compared to Dirt 2(real DX11 game) this game is crap. Storyline looks ok for now.