45c on full load?

[SuperFLyJimmy]

I am new to the AMD crowd so I don't know what temps should be. I don't think this is too high for where I am, but is it okay?
What kinda temps should I be seeing. This 45c is running Seti or Prime95. Is this okay, or should I be looking for problems?

[Placid]

That temp is fine.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

sweet. thought so, just wanted to make sure. thaanks for the response.

[bobt17]

generaly u want to keep ur temp under 50 so u are fine :)

[adamtekh]

kinda high for a swifty heatsink though

[Hoot]

Originally posted by adamtekh
kinda high for a swifty heatsink though

Depending upon the temperature of the air around the MCX-462, that does sound high. Here are some temps vs speeds vs vcore on the older MC-462A with the Delta 68cfm fan. These were obtained with an air temperature of 21C and measured using the internal Thermal diode in the XP1800 running Prime95 Torture:

Speed Setting Vcore Core c/w
1530 11.5x133 1.675 30C .15
1600 12x133 1.725 32C .16
1680 12x140 1.85 36C .18
1740 12x145 2.00 41C .20

Hoot

[UserName]

my suggestion is in my sig

[SuperFLyJimmy]

well my case is at 11c the vcore is maxed out, and that is running prime 95, Dnetc, Seti. Not all at once but you knew that.
The temp on the CPu now is 41c and it has been running mildly today. I am using the Fong Kai case with a fan right at hight with the MCX blowing air directly into it. Should I turn this fan around? It is a 90mm fan and I have a 120mm intake fan in the fron of the case. I have 2 exhaust fans on my PSU. give me some ideas to get the temps down with what I already have.

Thanks

[adamtekh]

45C with 11C for case is way high

i got 12C case when it was snowing and i had a fan blowing cold air from an opend window @ my case

and i was @ 37c with a 6cu+


i have less watage , but with those case temps the swifty should be doing much better

insocket probes ????

what kinda fan on the swifty ??

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by SuperFLyJimmy
well my case is at 11c the vcore is maxed out, and that is running prime 95, Dnetc, Seti. Not all at once but you knew that.
The temp on the CPu now is 41c and it has been running mildly today. I am using the Fong Kai case with a fan right at hight with the MCX blowing air directly into it. Should I turn this fan around? It is a 90mm fan and I have a 120mm intake fan in the fron of the case. I have 2 exhaust fans on my PSU. give me some ideas to get the temps down with what I already have.

Thanks
have the same case with 1.4 bird vcore@1.68 cpu temp never gets over 40c at normal room temps. took duct off fan and replaced fan with 92mm panflo h1 exuasting

[juliendogg]

11c would mean it's around 54 farenheit in your case? it must be freezing in your house man! that can't be right.
i'm running the swifty mcxc370 wich is just one step below it's little brother acording to the heatsink rankings on the front page. my temps stay at 45C while crunching seti and my case temp stays at 26 load or idle.....

[SuperFLyJimmy]

well the 11c is with MBM5, but it says 34C with ITE guardian which is the program that came with my MOBO, SO i would believe the Guardian.

Case temps 34C. I tried turning my rear intake fan around to see if it may help. I believe it is bringin in some hot air form the PSU.
I removed my case last night and it was reall hot around my Video card( which could be the problem) with the case off, my temps dropped to 33C within a minute. So maybe my ideo card is throwing heat up to my heat sink.

Will see if the turning of the fan helped any. may have to by a slot cooler.

[adamtekh]

if my case was @ 34c i would turn my comp offf

thats just me

mostly cuase my cpu would be @ 60C+ cuase the 6cu+ couldnt handel it

[juliendogg]

my case stays at 27 and i also get 45 full load. got the front lower intake sucking in from a window that's open just a little and mbm temps are 15/33 and still slowly dropping... (it's 18 farenheit outside:))seems somewhere around 18 degrees over ambient is what i'm going to get out of my c370,
if your case is 35 and your cpu is 45 i'd say your doing REAL good with your hsf but you really need to vent that case better.
the fan under the psu should probably be exhaust and then you'll need a good intake at the front bottom....

[SuperFLyJimmy]

well 34c isn't bad. And turning around my upper intake fan and making it an exhaust has helped bring it down a few degrees C. the 45C is only at full load. Normally at idle it doesn't get above 38c.

[res0r9lm]

I'm getting 28c case temp without any intake fans just psu fan and 92mm in the back and thats with a room temp of 24c

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Im running the Gainward TI550 and after removing my side panel yesterday i noticed there was alot of heat coming off of there. Enough to raise my case temps. So that is probably my problem. Since the CPU is right above it.

[juliendogg]

my point is that your hsf is keeping cpu temps around 11 over ambient at full load. if you drop the ambient temps the cpu temps will lower almost identically ,eg, 34 case 45 load vs. 30 case 41 load. and believe me, with these newer atlhons a few degrees can help you out alot in the o/c dept. ideally you should be able to get your case temp only a few degrees above your room temp...

[Myself and I]

at 1795 mhz right now i am getting 39c idle and 46 load

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Yeah I turned the fan under the PSU to exhaust and I am running a 120mm Y.S Tech fan for a intake. Blows nice and hard. Air outta it is always cool. My temps didn't start rising until I put the new Video card in it. From what everyone is posting I think im okay. From what you are saying I am where I should be. Thanks for the help.

[adamtekh]

still might want some more cooling , like on your video card

r u over clocking that to , if so what r u useing to cool it ???

id sudjust 2x 80mm or 92mm fans blowing on it from the side( side panel mod )

[Hoot]

This is jumping all over the place. Read my lips. If you remove the cover and the CPU temp goes down, you need more throughcase airflow. I don't care whether its in the front and out the rear; In the rear and out the front; In a side-mounted blowhole and out the top; yatta yatta... You need more throughcase airflow. You get it one of two ways. More fans or higher volume fans. Shoot for having as much cfm blowing in as drawing out. It's that simple.

Hoot

[adamtekh]

what hoot said :beer:

[SuperFLyJimmy]

agreed. but I cant read your lips. I can read your Fingures though. Just kidding. I bout this case cause it is suppose to be good at that. A real good cooler, but It isn't living up to its name. Im concocting an idea to add some more fans to it without cutting into it.

[SuperFLyJimmy]

Realized this. My Front Fan was low mounted and the holes for which it sucks was on the floor. Hence it was sucking up carpet fumes. I put a book under it and now my temps dropped 2C.
I pulled the side case off and it was cooler in my case, however temps still dropped to 36/37c. putting the case back on went up to 39c. There really isn't anywhere else to put a fan, And I aint cutting my case.

[Element-Xero]

Grab a dremel or a hole saw and hack up some intake/exhaust holes, instead of leaving the stock holes. They are always so horrifically awful. I know you don't wanna cut your case but this would be a minor mod, just allowing the fans to draw air from the outside more freely- It's easy and worth the tiny risk. Check in at the alt. modding section, they'll help you out with it.

[Dagon]

At 1.91 vcore and 24C case temps I get around that same temp...I wouldn't worry about it, your CPU is safe..most guys in here are just anal retentive about temps.

Not to say that your setup is "properly" configured but, the temp itself is normal even for that HSF.

I would suggest flipping the fans around like previously suggested so that the DELTA 80mm doesn't have to fight with the exhaust fan for air..

[WeaponX]

I get 45C Idle temps at 1ghz with a volcano 6 cu+ and a room temperature of about 24 C :(

[juliendogg]

just saying cooler is better, especially with amd. i get more o/c every time i can drop my temp just a few degrees.
unless your house is really really warm then 34 is too high for a case temp. should be able to get in the high 20's very easily. mine was already there with only one intake and one exhaust and i got it down a little more putting in a second intake. easiest way to get more headroom for performance.

[adamtekh]

thats a 6cu+ , not a swift tech the best air cooling around

i have a 6cu+ its "OK", and its cheap

adding a rheostat is a nice add on to it though :beer:

[Zeke009]

At what point is the temp a danger to the new XP's? I ask cause this morning when I got to my desk I was greeted with a message from home saying that my machine has sounded some alarm about the CPU going over what I set as a High CPU temp. I don't remember setting 47C as the alarm point in MBM5, but I kinda got lost in the menus when I first started using it and I must have done it.

The message said it was at 48C. According to MBM5, my temps are 36C idle and 43C load, average of 39C I think it said. Case temp was about 17C average and mobo average of 29C. I think, I don't have the log with me so I can't be too sure.

See sig for my config:

[Silver]

Read Hoot's (lips?) message again. Then write it a hundred times or so. Just kidding about the writing part.:D

[juliendogg]

my 1700 gets sketchy running at high speeds above 50 degrees.
i was stable at 1.66 with load temps highest at 55 but i could not go any faster. a little arctic silver and BAM! my temps are 45 under full load and i'm completely stable at 1.7. seems to me that anything over 50 is too hot if you want a stable o/c..

[juliendogg]

my 1700 gets sketchy running at high speeds above 50 degrees.
i was stable at 1.66 with load temps highest at 55 but i could not go any faster. a little arctic silver and BAM! my temps are 45 under full load and i'm completely stable at 1.7. seems to me that anything over 50 is too hot if you want a stable o/c..
but as far as dangerous, i don't know. seems amd says 70. i don't even think my chip would run stock speed at 70 degrees.

[WeaponX]

What's a rheostat?

[adamtekh]

it controls teh voltage to the fan by just turning a nob

[res0r9lm]

WeaponX don't think you need one if idle temps are 45c

[adamtekh]

well the cooling makes lil dif if your idel any ways , so why not turn it down my temps rise 2c

[res0r9lm]

Originally posted by adamtekh
well the cooling makes lil dif if your idel any ways , so why not turn it down my temps rise 2c

WeaponX:I get 45C Idle temps at 1ghz with a volcano 6 cu+ and a room temperature of about 24 C
So temps @ full load have to be atleast 55c WeaponX turning fan down wouldn't make to much sense

[adamtekh]

no i would judge full load temps around 49C just from experance

i doubt his c/w is that bad

u only turn it down when u want it queit ( surfing )

but when gameing u turn it up

now if your folding , or running seti i dont recomend it unless your ok with high temps when your sleeping

its alot nicer to sleep with a low hum than a annoying whine

[res0r9lm]

don't see how people stand having 5 or 6 fan in there case. I have the bare minimum one in, one out, and one on the heatsink
and I can here it anywhere in the house. I guess it's something you get used to. that is why I like water cooling. got a 5 gal. resivor on my duron without any fans super quiet. I can run for
2-3 days and then the water needs to cool down by that time you would need to add more water anyway.

[adamtekh]

now u see the power of rheostats:beer:

[VegetaQ]

Originally posted by res0r9lm
don't see how people stand having 5 or 6 fan in there case. I have the bare minimum one in, one out, and one on the heatsink
and I can here it anywhere in the house. I guess it's something you get used to. that is why I like water cooling. got a 5 gal. resivor on my duron without any fans super quiet. I can run for
2-3 days and then the water needs to cool down by that time you would need to add more water anyway.

I remember somone saying they don't make quiet ferrari's.

mine is loud. You can hear it when you come into the house or sitting in the living room watching TV. But I personally like it. It reminds me my pc is still alive. I get worried when I turn it off at night... so quiet.

[VegetaQ]

Originally posted by Zeke009
At what point is the temp a danger to the new XP's? I ask cause this morning when I got to my desk I was greeted with a message from home saying that my machine has sounded some alarm about the CPU going over what I set as a High CPU temp. I don't remember setting 47C as the alarm point in MBM5, but I kinda got lost in the menus when I first started using it and I must have done it.

The message said it was at 48C. According to MBM5, my temps are 36C idle and 43C load, average of 39C I think it said. Case temp was about 17C average and mobo average of 29C. I think, I don't have the log with me so I can't be too sure.

See sig for my config:

Xp's are supposed to be rated up to 90 Degrees C. Thats the point at which they turn Extra crispy. Needless to say you don't want to touch it.
I ran mine at 60 C for a while before I lapped and applied ascII to my old dragon orb (Now have quite a bit better heatsink) and I can say it runs more stable. Not as many lockups.

[Zeke009]

Originally posted by VegetaQ
... I ran mine at 60 C for a while before I lapped and applied ascII to my old dragon orb (Now have quite a bit better heatsink) ...

Thanks!! That was the answer I was looking for. I wanted to see what someone was safely running their cpu at. I have some more cleanup work to do with my case (hide some cables and buy 1 more rounded IDE) and their might be a window w/92mm fan mod in my future.