Killing Cdroms, cd-rw's

[Autonomous]

I have killed a burner and a cd-rom so far. :eek: My friend says it is possibly because i was overclocking. I have my processor turned back down to stock speed and am going to see what happens. What are you thoughts on this? :beer:

[Ebola]

i dont think overclocking usually hurts cd drives. sometimes screws up data on hard drives. cd drives only last so long anyways. the laser alignment usually goes first.

[David]

If you overclock the PCI Bus it may affect the IDE/ATAPI Bus. I have lost 2 partitions from overclocking - dont know about CDRIM/CDRWs

[Autonomous]

Well I think i'll keep it on the safe side and stop overclocking this system till I get another one and care less about what happens to this one.

I also feel that it is too coincidental that i could kill 2 cd-roms in a row and do it while it was overclocked. But thats just my thoughts....:D

[PsycoPhreak]

Dude, you forgot to tell them that both of your drives WERE BRAND NEW...LOL....AND they were both in the system at the same time....2 new drives going dead the EXACT SAME WAY is not a coincidence, now having your FSB at 140 Mhz raises your PCI to 46.6....and you don't have ratio settings to play with so I can GAURANTEE the OC is what wiped them out...LOL

your a nut AUTO...LOL...BTW....did you pick up the new CD drive yet?..if so...DON"T KILL IT OR THE NEW CD-RW...LMAO

[Breadfan]

Sure, two new drives failing at exactly the same time isn't coincidence, but lets not blame overclocking so quickly.

Many others here and elsewhere run similar FSB's and are running their PCI bus as much or more out of spec. I've heard of harddrive errors before, but never CD drives failing.

I could see then not accessing correctly of locking up the system during file transfers...that could be caused by OC'ing, but dying?

Have you tried these drives in other systems yet? I had a 56x Acer die at work, but once it was moved into another system is worked, and the other 56x I put in the persons system worked. It was just some strange quirk the drive had, but didn't work until transfered to another system.

I really think if these are truly dead and died at the same time that OC'ing is not the cause. I could be wrong, but I just have not heard of such a thing happening.

My first thought would be "power surge" or "power quality". Any power surges? are you surge protected? Generic PSU?

I think if FSB overclocking could kill CDrom drives, then we would all be reading more about it. Just my two cents...

I'd keep OC'ing :)
Mike

[Larry Quinn]

I concur..

I HIGHLY douby that the overclock killed them.

HOWEVER!!!

IF you tweaked your power supply (5v/12v mod)...to get your overclock..and that VOLTAGE killed the drives....HMMMMMM

Overclocking made you up the voltage...but the voltage killed he drives........HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


HEY IS THERE A LAWYER IN THE HOUSE????????

Yikes......

(BTW...Sorry about the drives... :( )

Larry

[PsycoPhreak]

Actually, the drives were tested in another machine and they failed to work, both drives...both of them had the same problem...failed to even spin up to read any cd put into them...
they functioned fine before the system was OC'ed, they failed very shortly after the system was OC'ed.
Windows recognised the drives were there...but they didn't work at all. We even tried a firmware update, that didn't work, although the new firmware did in fact load into the drives, they still didn't spin up to read a cd.

There was no voltage mod to the power supply, just the standard tweaks through bios to up the voltage ( cpu, IO voltage tweaks) and they were very conservative at the most.

I myself in fact lost a cd drive once to overclocking, it just couldn't take the increased bus speed, as it was not designed for it. but it died completely....wasn't recognised at all, so it is in fact possible that OC'ing a system can have a detrimental effect to components connected to it, especially if the manufacturer of the drives build them to exact tolerances without allowing some headroom.

Again..2 brand new drives in the same system going bad with the exact same problem AFTER the OC is not a coincidence, just more proof the we who overclock risk more than we realize sometimes, sometimes it's worth it, other times it's not.

IDE Hard drives go bad sometimes due to overclocking, and seeing how they use the same interface as an ATAPI cd rom, the cd drives are just as prone to failure at higher signals from increased bus speed, as most manufacturers design them with crappy tolerances. (although as of late, alot more components are being designed to withstand more abuse and have better tolerances to out of spec bus speeds and/or voltages)

[Rezman5]

I have had 4 or 5 52x CD-ROMS die on me. I think it is becyase I move my case around alot, and the laser gets knocked out of place or something. Not quite sure...

[Autonomous]

well thanks for the feedback guys. I think i'll keep it at stock settings to see if the oc killed my drives. And yes psyco i am nuts, but hey if its under warranty why not test the merchandise out. :D

And rez as for you killing your 4 to 5 cd-roms while moving them I don't think moving them will kill it. I move my machine around alot too and if my drives were going to die from me moving it it would have happened 6 months ago. Unless you hit every doorway your passing through or put your computer on the floor of the car and hit every pothole in sight I don't think moving it will kill your drive. But that is just my opinion. :beer:

[klosters64a]

A bit OT. Sorry. A great way to wreck cd-rom drives is: catch the end of an open tray with a loose, overlarge sleeve. Works great!

[Autonomous]

wow I didn't think of that one. I'll have to try that when I get my new one.........heh heh :cool: