View Full Version : Bad Company 2 - Retail Release - Smiley Grenade Edition
lordkosc
03-01-10, 10:47 AM
http://yfrog.com/47battlefieldbadcompany2j
Ok no more posting in the beta thread!!!!!
Lets focus on the OMGBBQWINZ and NERF / OP / This SuxxoRz of the retail release in this thread. :)
Red_LightRanger
03-01-10, 11:06 AM
OMGBBQWINZ and NERF / OP / This SuxxoRz
The power of christ compells you!!!
not sure what u are saying, but only 1 more day!!! You think its a work day off worthy game?
Janus67
03-01-10, 11:50 AM
A copy/paste of what I posted in the beta thread regarding the single player:
I managed to get my hands on a copy a couple days before release and played through the single player (on PC) on Saturday and Sunday. The campaign was excellent, vehicle combat was fun and spread out pretty well. The enemies weren't super dumb, and the weapons all felt about right. If the damage/hit correction in the single player is in multiplayer then our complaints about that are taken care of.
The game lasted about 10 hours (felt about right) on normal, where I searched a bit for MCom stations to blow up and the unlockable weapons as you go through as well. My setup for most of the game was a 3-shot burst assault rifle + semi-auto sniper rifle in the other slot. It worked out perfectly well for all sitauations. I can't wait for the official release on Tuesday.
Although I'm a little saddened that there will be a Day1 DLC Map pack...
Performance-wise I didn't notice any stuttering at all playing with DX10 on medium/high settings across the board at 1920x1200 with my system in my sig.
lordkosc
03-01-10, 11:53 AM
Although I'm a little saddened that there will be a Day1 DLC Map pack...
I believe its FREE. There is a VIP code in the game box, I also recall them saying the 2nd DLC map pack would be FREE also.
sHape oF gReY
03-01-10, 12:38 PM
Heh I'm trying to do most, if not all of my school related work today and tomorrow because I have a feeling it won't get done otherwise. Although I didn't have the chance to try out the beta, I've got really high hopes for this puppy.
Janus67
03-01-10, 01:26 PM
I believe its FREE. There is a VIP code in the game box, I also recall them saying the 2nd DLC map pack would be FREE also.
I hope so, that will make me a lot happier when downloading it :DD
hajalie24
03-01-10, 01:39 PM
It's free, only people who buy the game used needs to pay.
Also, campaign was ~5 hours for me on normal.
Red_LightRanger
03-01-10, 02:41 PM
A copy/paste of what I posted in the beta thread regarding the single player:
I managed to get my hands on a copy a couple days before release and played through the single player (on PC) on Saturday and Sunday. The campaign was excellent, vehicle combat was fun and spread out pretty well. The enemies weren't super dumb, and the weapons all felt about right. If the damage/hit correction in the single player is in multiplayer then our complaints about that are taken care of.
The game lasted about 10 hours (felt about right) on normal, where I searched a bit for MCom stations to blow up and the unlockable weapons as you go through as well. My setup for most of the game was a 3-shot burst assault rifle + semi-auto sniper rifle in the other slot. It worked out perfectly well for all sitauations. I can't wait for the official release on Tuesday.
Although I'm a little saddened that there will be a Day1 DLC Map pack...
Performance-wise I didn't notice any stuttering at all playing with DX10 on medium/high settings across the board at 1920x1200 with my system in my sig.
You already beat the game? How did u get it so early?
rainless
03-01-10, 02:49 PM
You already beat the game? How did u get it so early?
It's probably sitting in my mailbox at home (I'm at work). I've got Amazon Prime and ordered with Release Day Shipping.
Sometimes in their zeal to get the game to you on release day they get it to you the day BEFORE. (I'm in Chicago and the delivery center is in Northwest Indiana... I could actually drive there in half an hour and pick it up if they allowed that.)
Other than that... there's always target.
SteveLord
03-01-10, 03:53 PM
You already beat the game? How did u get it so early?
Some areas/stores in the country get games a little early. This has been going on for many years.
Anyone who has the game preloaded and installed from EA store know what time it will be activated? I'm hoping the game will be ready to play at 12:01 EST. Has there been any word on this?
lordkosc
03-01-10, 04:40 PM
I heard Tuesday. :p
Hmm...Just started up the game and it appears to be decrypting all installed files. Hopefully it'll work in a couple minutes when its done. I'll post me results :)
-edit-
Guess I still need my CDkey from EA to play multiplayer but the single player works.
Before I bite, does anybody know how this runs on a system like mine at 1680x1050 medium/high settings? If it runs well I will certainly be getting this next week :)
One of my clan members has a similar system to yours, he has a 940be instead of the 8400 though. It seemed to run fine during the beta. You should be fine with at least medium-high settings. Single player seems pretty cool so far too.
TommyHolly
03-01-10, 08:48 PM
I traded in a bunch of games and didn't know what to buy so the guy behind the counter talked me into pre-ordering this one... He said come back at midnight (tonight) because we are doing an early release.
Usually I couldn't care less about a game coming out early, but there is a bar right next door so... it's an excuse to go out and hit on women and if I don't come back with anything, at least I come back with the game! haha Win-Win
Janus67
03-01-10, 09:43 PM
if you have a code you can get into games now.
don'tknow
03-01-10, 09:50 PM
Saw some of the Hour One on GT earlier. Single player looks pretty easy but there's some interesting things.
But AI mobs in SP have much lower health than players so it might look like damage is 'fixed', as for the hit detection in MP it could be a problem with the net code (which doesn't apply in SP) so it's hard to tell if those issues got fixed. Should not be much of a problem if there's enough hardcore servers.
Janus67
03-01-10, 10:25 PM
Well I played about an hour of multiplayer today. Too bad my WOW! internet has sucked lately causing hiccups and disconnects from WoW and now BC2. That being said, the gameplay is a bit better, although I still found it took quite a few bullets to kill people (especially at a distance), definitely more than what you would need in MW2 with an assault rifle/etc. The gameplay types are fun, definitely get in there soon so you can learn the maps while everyone else is. There are probably >100f servers available now, although probably 30 are actually being used. The new maps are pretty good.
^ You are already in MP?
Not fair!
13 hours left until steam unlock...I'm off to bed early so time can pass quicker :D
TommyHolly
03-02-10, 01:17 AM
OK I picked up my copy tonight but I'm waaaay too buzzed to play. I spent about 3 hours at the bar waiting for midnight to roll around to go next door to Gamestop and there was this really hot French chick... but she turned out to be married. (But I don't find this out until 3 shots later because her ring looked like something out of a cracker jack box, the cheap basterd.)
Anyway, long story short... I brought some people from Gamestop to the bar with me and I have an extra code for some special weapon that you can only get if you preorder? Yeah they gave me 2 of them... here is my spare.
First come first serve. My gift to you because you guys rock!
Edit: P.S. I bought the PS3 version so I'm not sure if that code works for other stuff?
Edit #2: P.S.S. Rainless called Dibs on the code and nobody else seemed interested in it so he gets it.
Edit #3: P.S.S.S. is the same acronym for PS3 haha ;)
Damn just beat the single player. SP is pretty awesome in this game but its a bit short. I didn't do much extra though (blowing up m-coms for example). I can't wait to try out the MP in the finished game.
lordkosc
03-02-10, 11:25 AM
Amazon via UPS finally delivered it :D
rainless
03-02-10, 12:27 PM
OK I picked up my copy tonight but I'm waaaay too buzzed to play. I spent about 3 hours at the bar waiting for midnight to roll around to go next door to Gamestop and there was this really hot French chick... but she turned out to be married. (But I don't find this out until 3 shots later because her ring looked like something out of a cracker jack box, the cheap basterd.)
Anyway, long story short... I brought some people from Gamestop to the bar with me and I have an extra code for some special weapon that you can only get if you preorder? Yeah they gave me 2 of them... here is my spare.
First come first serve. My gift to you because you guys rock!
Edit: P.S. I bought the PS3 version so I'm not sure if that code works for other stuff?
That looks like a VIP code (it's not a PSN code). It will only work on the Battlefield Store... which isn't up yet. But once it is... I'm calling dibs on this one. ;)
Mentokk
03-02-10, 12:29 PM
Finally downloading my copy from steam. Had to click install 20 times before I could get a download spot though. My download speed is a blazing 0kb/s.
Trueweltall
03-02-10, 12:44 PM
11% at 380kb/s
85% @ 1.4MB/s
Almost done!!
Mentokk
03-02-10, 01:25 PM
Finally getting solid speeds. Changed my server region to the Ukraine lol. Getting solid 900kb/s.
I'm in game.
This game is phenominal. It is 10x smoother than the beta and the maps are KICK ASS.
My game name: DatDereCellTech
Add me let's play!
Janus67
03-02-10, 02:26 PM
my soldier's name is Janus | OSU (hope that works) feel free to add me.
rainless
03-02-10, 02:38 PM
Got the PS3 version. Killed half a dozen guys in the two minutes that were left of the game I joined.
Wonderful.
The ps3 beta/demo didn't really HAVE any problems. So the retail game is just as smooth.
LOVE the maps! Positively kickass... (Bye-bye Infinity Ward...)
lordkosc
03-02-10, 02:40 PM
TheShadow81 in game, add me gents :D pc version <3
someone get a list together!!!!
don'tknow
03-02-10, 05:23 PM
FoV change doesn't work, at least in single player it seems. I made mine 90 in the ini and started SP campaign to get it out of the way, but it isn't applying.
Janus67
03-02-10, 07:25 PM
I got FoV to work no issue at all in multiplayer, haven't tested it in single player. Don't forget to save it and then re-open BF, it won't save if it is currently opened. I had mine set to 90 as well.
I've had on CTD so far, sound bugged out or something and bam, right to the desktop.
only other negative I've had is that the losing tickets horn is super annoying.
I got FoV to work no issue at all in multiplayer, haven't tested it in single player. Don't forget to save it and then re-open BF, it won't save if it is currently opened. I had mine set to 90 as well.
I've had on CTD so far, sound bugged out or something and bam, right to the desktop.
I've had one CTD too. Sound didn't really bug out for me but the game kinda locked up and crashed. Hopefully there will be a minor patch to fix that.
lordkosc
03-02-10, 08:34 PM
CTD after 4 solid hours, not bad, and no clue why it happened.
Another question. I was just looking at steam and it had mentioned a bunch of stuff you got extra if you pre-ordered with them. Is this stuff that I can earn later in the game or did I miss out? Obviously I am going to pick up the LE version next week, just unsure who gets what.
Janus67
03-02-10, 08:50 PM
it is all stuff that you can get later, that you end up earning whether or not you have then anyway.
SteveLord
03-02-10, 09:03 PM
Can't even stay in a server for 10 minutes before being kicked. Logging into EA doesn't work half the time. Can't seem to connect to ANY servers, yet I do see people in them.
Looks like a typical "didnt anticipate server load enough" episode. This blows.
Jawsome
03-02-10, 09:44 PM
Same here SteveLord, I can't connect to anything, and now I don't see pings anymore. Servers that have spots open show up as full when I try to connect.
Tophinater
03-02-10, 09:56 PM
You guys are getting more than I am, I can't even get the server list to load. :(
Jawsome
03-02-10, 10:01 PM
Haha, tried playing some single player to pass the time, and the first time I died I crashed to desktop.
Janus67
03-02-10, 10:18 PM
I can't login to the ea servers now, got booted then couldn't reconnect. /sadface.
rainless
03-02-10, 10:32 PM
There's supposed to be a patch for you PC people today.
No problems so far with the PS3 version.
Don't forget to SPOT! SPOT! SPOT DAMNIT!
http://www.pixelenemy.com/2010/02/how-not-to-be-a-noob-at-battlefield-bad-company-2/
Jawsome
03-02-10, 11:05 PM
I love getting booted to desktop everytime I get an IM :bang head
Other than the glitches though, of which there are many, I'm liking the game alot more than I thought I would after trying beta.
hank123
03-02-10, 11:07 PM
hmmm this is great i was going into a server and the game just crashes. no errors anything sounds like BF2 now.
SteveLord
03-02-10, 11:51 PM
My clan's servers...we all somehow managed to get in. And within minutes, all 4 of them were packed.
Sidenote, My Gamestop AKS74 didnt seem to unlock. The code was accepted, but I can't select it.
JonEapples
03-03-10, 12:37 AM
You guys are getting more than I am, I can't even get the server list to load. :(
Same thing is happening to me. When I choose "play now" I sometimes get in but get kicked within 5 minutes.
don'tknow
03-03-10, 01:38 AM
Done with single player.
Will need to find some good east coast servers that are actively moderated. There are already working aimbots (there have been since the beta, which was blatantly obvious on some servers) so if anyone else knows some good servers where the admins actually care about keeping the real players, post them here.
Don't let that sound like a deterrent from the game though, this is present in every single fps; it's a matter of finding the right servers to play on.
TommyHolly
03-03-10, 02:07 AM
Only played Multiplayer for an hour today... The graphics arent as good as Modern Warfare 2 but it's decent.
I was playing Recon (Sniper) and found that they take into account gravity for bullet drop over long distances. (Luckily your scope doesn't move at all otherwise it would be near impossible to hit anyone.) I don't like the fact it usually takes 2 hits to kill someone though.
I'll unlock some stuff and see how it goes but so far I liked MW2 better.
lordkosc
03-03-10, 02:31 AM
Tom , use the default sniper rifle you are given from the start, it as far as i know has the highest damage. I usually get 1 shot kills all the time.
Hopefully they patch the game soon. I've been playing on a friend's server and it runs fine for a couple maps but than boots everyone. It almost seems like when the server starts filling up it crashes. From what I've heard its a bug with the server software EA gave server providers. I just find it annoying that the servers are having all these issues in the retail version of the game but there was nothing like this in the beta.
@ Tommy
Sniping takes one shot if you hit the upper body or the head. I can't wait until I unlock the 50 cal sniper that you get to use in single player. That thing should be a beast in mp.
Only played Multiplayer for an hour today... The graphics arent as good as Modern Warfare 2 but it's decent.
I was playing Recon (Sniper) and found that they take into account gravity for bullet drop over long distances. (Luckily your scope doesn't move at all otherwise it would be near impossible to hit anyone.) I don't like the fact it usually takes 2 hits to kill someone though.
I'll unlock some stuff and see how it goes but so far I liked MW2 better.
How are the graphics better than MW2..
rainless
03-03-10, 08:40 AM
How are the graphics better than MW2..
That's actually the OPPOSITE of what he said...
sHape oF gReY
03-03-10, 09:31 AM
Done with single player.
Will need to find some good east coast servers that are actively moderated. There are already working aimbots (there have been since the beta, which was blatantly obvious on some servers) so if anyone else knows some good servers where the admins actually care about keeping the real players, post them here.
Don't let that sound like a deterrent from the game though, this is present in every single fps; it's a matter of finding the right servers to play on.
+1 if someone knows a good East Coast servers that are closely monitored that would be awesome. Definetly starting to see obvious aimbots. Couple of guys in my ITE class were actaully talking about using them soon as the game went live.
Tophinater
03-03-10, 10:05 AM
Apparently the EA servers went down last night for a couple hours. I got a few hours in after they came back up, enough to earn the XM8. For me, the game was flawless. No lag, no glitches, no issues what so ever. Crazy fun too. I really like the maps for this game.
Janus67
03-03-10, 10:28 AM
Although they said they killed spawn camping, the map where there are marshes/rivers through the middle is a dangerous one for that. There is a bottleneck that the deployment location for one of the teams has to go through. If the other side captures the 4 points (happened last night to me) you are trapped back there hoping to get a lucky break while they rain fire down on your team
rainless
03-03-10, 12:13 PM
http://www.pixelenemy.com/2010/02/how-not-to-be-a-noob-at-battlefield-bad-company-2/
What is the command for spotting in the PC version?
And can you guys capture screenshots in that version like the console version?
Red_LightRanger
03-03-10, 12:19 PM
http://www.pixelenemy.com/2010/02/how-not-to-be-a-noob-at-battlefield-bad-company-2/
What is the command for spotting in the PC version?
And can you guys capture screenshots in that version like the console version?
if im not mistaken its like BF2- "Q+click" . Very handy when in a squad, though when looking thru a sniper scope it didnt always work.
Not sure how the console version take screens, but i always just use prnt scrn
rainless
03-03-10, 12:28 PM
if im not mistaken its like BF2- "Q+click" . Very handy when in a squad, though when looking thru a sniper scope it didnt always work.
Not sure how the console version take screens, but i always just use prnt scrn
That's nice that it's tied to the fire button. I wish they did that for the cosole version the Select/Back buttons are so out of the way when you're in the middle of a fire fight.
Leviathan41
03-03-10, 12:49 PM
if im not mistaken its like BF2- "Q+click" . Very handy when in a squad, though when looking thru a sniper scope it didnt always work.
Not sure how the console version take screens, but i always just use prnt scrn
It's just Q, (although you can change it to whatever you want). BF2 had a commo-rose menu that came up when you held Q then you could click to mark stuff. BFBC2 only requires you to hit Q with your crosshairs over an enemy to mark them.
lordkosc
03-03-10, 01:21 PM
yep, Q for EVERYTHING
mark a target, mark a location for the squad to go to, target someone and ask for health/ammo.
rainless
03-03-10, 02:26 PM
yep, Q for EVERYTHING
mark a target, mark a location for the squad to go to, target someone and ask for health/ammo.
I've still gotta figure half that stuff out. Dude pointed at me (I was medic) and was asking for health and I didn't know how to do it... so he started SHOOTING me! Hahahahahha... Then I figured it out.
I can't wait to get the defibrilator!
Tophinater
03-03-10, 02:55 PM
yep, Q for EVERYTHING
mark a target, mark a location for the squad to go to, target someone and ask for health/ammo.
The game is all about team work. Make sure you are hitting that "socialize" button when ever possible for marking targets.
For those of you who are still noobs, you need to watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p4fkH9qC4M
rainless
03-03-10, 03:03 PM
The game is all about team work. Make sure you are hitting that "socialize" button when ever possible for marking targets.
For those of you who are still noobs, you need to watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p4fkH9qC4M
That's the same as the link that I posted (three times now because it's THAT DAMNED IMPORTANT) http://www.pixelenemy.com/2010/02/how-not-to-be-a-noob-at-battlefield-bad-company-2/
Can't wait to get back home so I can play this.
Lavacon
03-03-10, 03:07 PM
How epic are the battles in this game? I never got into the beta to try it out.
How epic are the battles in this game? I never got into the beta to try it out.
They are pretty intense. 64 players would be too hectic I think after now playing the maps.
EarthDog
03-03-10, 03:53 PM
Cant wait to play it again!!! Too bad I will have to wait until monday b/c of a system upgrade!!!!
Red_LightRanger
03-03-10, 03:57 PM
Is there a way to turn down the HDR....seems like I cant see anything on some of the brighter maps. (i think hdr ..or bloom ...whatever).
Leviathan41
03-03-10, 04:42 PM
Is there a way to turn down the HDR....seems like I cant see anything on some of the brighter maps. (i think hdr ..or bloom ...whatever).
Open up the settings.ini file located in Documents/BFBC2 and change "bloom=true" to "bloom=false"
bryan_d
03-03-10, 04:42 PM
It is HB** something or another... the lat option under "advanced settings" I believe.
Janus67
03-03-10, 04:58 PM
It is HB** something or another... the lat option under "advanced settings" I believe.
which as far as I know only makes dynamic shadows or something, to which I disable it.
don'tknow
03-03-10, 06:02 PM
Just "Q" works for spotting in PC version, you can bind it to whatever you want though.
Sometimes spotting doesn't trigger, known bug that they're supposedly fixing at some point.
The "HBAO" setting is Ambient Occlusion, it makes lighting look better but slows down fps a bit. Did some benches earlier and it lowered my avg. fps by 10 in single player; I keep it off in multiplayer since my fps in 32 player servers is about 20 fps lower already, but played through SP with it on.
Janus67
03-03-10, 06:11 PM
unfortunately at this time the game is pretty much unplayable. consistent disconnects and unable to reach EA servers, and when it does the pings for the servers aren't remotely correct. The past 3-4 I've gone to say 50ms ping, I join and am sitting around 300.
Leviathan41
03-03-10, 06:22 PM
Yeah EA servers are having some serious problems, but when you can get in, it's a lot of fun! :)
hajalie24
03-03-10, 07:32 PM
Yesterday this game was so fun, then after those server troubles it sucks. Takes forever to attempt to join a game, oh and me and my brother were both playing together and got a CTD at the same exact time. Hope they fix this soon.
triggerpappy
03-03-10, 07:58 PM
For Those with performance problems I wrote a tweak guide at FragCast.Org it also tell you how to expand the FOV
FragCast.Org - Bad Company 2 Tweak Guide (http://www.fragcast.org/?p=433)
There is also a server admin guide, interview with the developers and some other good stuff there.
TriggerPappy
http://www.fragdirectory.com
http://www.a2kclan.com
Every time I try to join a server I get the error "The connection to the game server has been lost. Check your network connection and try again." I can log into my account just fine, but can't join any servers through the browser or play now. Any ideas?
Leviathan41
03-03-10, 09:07 PM
Every time I try to join a server I get the error "The connection to the game server has been lost. Check your network connection and try again." I can log into my account just fine, but can't join any servers through the browser or play now. Any ideas?
It's on EA's side, not yours. They have been having problems, I guess just keep trying and/or wait for their updates.
The server problems are fixed if the server is running on patch r4. If the server isn't on r4 then you'll have the random crashes.
lordkosc
03-03-10, 09:25 PM
yeah was on a fixed server tonight, finally, and that round i had 8500+ points :D thanks to a gold star :D
no lag, actual teamwork , it was scary :D
Twister60
03-03-10, 09:34 PM
no lag, actual teamwork , it was scary
Sig worthy. But its so true...
The only thing that's really getting me upset is the assault guys not dropping ammo. They'll pelt a tank with grenades until they run out, but will they drop ammo for the engi right next to them? Not a chance.
It IS amazing to see someone see you call for ammo and sprint over to you to drop a box though.
Cant wait to get home to log back on.
The only thing that's really getting me upset is the assault guys not dropping ammo. They'll pelt a tank with grenades until they run out, but will they drop ammo for the engi right next to them? Not a chance.
It IS amazing to see someone see you call for ammo and sprint over to you to drop a box though.
Cant wait to get home to log back on.
I play as assalt and always always throw a box of ammo at every friendly I see. I want to rank up pretty quickly so why not pad your score with the ammo refil points. I've gotten two gold stars already for giving people ammo too :D.
don'tknow
03-03-10, 11:16 PM
Do the gold stars (by a weapon) add any stats? I see tons of people having them.
How the hell do you even get those stars anyway? I do better than majority of players and no stars or anything, but seeing lots of low ranks with them. Or is it a display bug that won't show up on my weapon icons?
Its doing very well with a particular weapon or item. Check your weapons/stats page for the requirement for the stars.
Anyone know what the apache alt fire is? I cant seem to figure it out, or if it even has one
don'tknow
03-03-10, 11:56 PM
Oh, so I have to stick with 1 weapon for a while. I switch between classes often depending on situation so that's why it's going slower.
rainless
03-04-10, 12:00 AM
Do the gold stars (by a weapon) add any stats? I see tons of people having them.
How the hell do you even get those stars anyway? I do better than majority of players and no stars or anything, but seeing lots of low ranks with them. Or is it a display bug that won't show up on my weapon icons?
I think if you get a lot of badges for a particular weapon they put a star by it. I know I have a star for the SAW for the Medic. (I've mowed down MILLIONS of people so far with it.)
I think it increases your accuracy or something.
I think I'm going to mix it up and go with recon for a while so I can unlock the mortar strike. :D
68% @ 50Kbps w00t! I'll have it by tomorrow :D
Leviathan41
03-04-10, 12:39 AM
Do the gold stars (by a weapon) add any stats? I see tons of people having them.
How the hell do you even get those stars anyway? I do better than majority of players and no stars or anything, but seeing lots of low ranks with them. Or is it a display bug that won't show up on my weapon icons?
You get them for getting a certain number of kills with that particular weapon, I think it starts at 25 (overall) kills. They don't add any stats.
You get them for getting a certain number of kills with that particular weapon, I think it starts at 25 (overall) kills. They don't add any stats.
Yup, 25 = bronze, 50 = silver, 100 = gold.
don'tknow
03-04-10, 01:02 AM
Yea looks like I have bronze for most of my weapons already, and almost silver for some of them. Seems the star only shows under the 'weapons and gadgets' screen on the main menu, but not by my weapon icons in-game.
SteveLord
03-04-10, 01:14 AM
To sum this game up in 2 sentences.
If you're NOT playing Hardcore, this game stinks. Once you play Hardcore, there's no going back.
I just dont get why there arent many hardcore servers. It's really a MUCH better way to play the game. It makes every weapon lethal so even if you dont have the best unlocks you can still pick off that sniper in the distance.
don'tknow
03-04-10, 03:21 AM
Non-hardcore servers do seem annoying, especially if you're just starting and going vs lots of rank 10+ with better weapons/ammo. It's a game of numbers in 1v1 situations, even if your aim is perfect.
Hardcore does make all weapons within the same class pretty much the same though, so the variety seems mostly aesthetic. In a way makes it hard to decide. But one of the most annoying things is when I shoot someone in the head multiple times while they run toward me, through my bullets shrugging them off and just knife; doesn't happen in hardcore.
Oh, and don't bother with Rush mode on hardcore. There is absolutely no way the defending team can lose unless they're all afk.
SteveLord
03-04-10, 07:43 AM
Non-hardcore servers do seem annoying, especially if you're just starting and going vs lots of rank 10+ with better weapons/ammo. It's a game of numbers in 1v1 situations, even if your aim is perfect.
Hardcore does make all weapons within the same class pretty much the same though, so the variety seems mostly aesthetic. In a way makes it hard to decide. But one of the most annoying things is when I shoot someone in the head multiple times while they run toward me, through my bullets shrugging them off and just knife; doesn't happen in hardcore.
Oh, and don't bother with Rush mode on hardcore. There is absolutely no way the defending team can lose unless they're all afk.
I *think* HC has to be set at the server host. Ours are all normal and apparently we have to go through our vendor for that particular change.
As far as weapons without HC, it also makes the guns equally weak. Killing 1 guy every 30 rounds is ridiculous and I wouldn't have bought this game if HC mode was absent.
As far as Rush, it's very easy for the defending team to lose. It's called choppers and Tanks/APCs as on several maps, the defending team gets 0. Also many people are still new, so they are clueless to defending a bomb that's been planted.
Janus67
03-04-10, 08:06 AM
I'm excited to get home and attempt playing again, just really frustrating that after a day of work I have a few hours to kill and after 30 minutes of getting 'cannot connect to EA online' while refreshing servers I just go take a nap before my wow-raid.
lordkosc
03-04-10, 08:29 AM
Anyone find a good east coast server?
http://www.gametracker.com/search/bc2/
Red_LightRanger
03-04-10, 09:48 AM
Anyone out there pre-order from steam? I seem to remember someone saying it came with unlocks if you did, but im not sure if i have them unlocked or if i need to do something. Am i going crazy?
gregers05
03-04-10, 10:06 AM
i just got mine from steam and cant connect to any of the multiplayer anything. says it cant connect to servers. obviously my internet is working otherwise i wouldnt be posting this up. anybody else have this problem? im pretty ****ed at the moment
gregers05
03-04-10, 10:41 AM
never mind. looks like im not alone:
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/374945.page
Leviathan41
03-04-10, 10:55 AM
Anyone out there pre-order from steam? I seem to remember someone saying it came with unlocks if you did, but im not sure if i have them unlocked or if i need to do something. Am i going crazy?
Your game should come with 2 CD Keys, one for the game and one to unlock the pre-order stuff. Right click on BFBC2 in your Steam games list and click "View Game CD Keys" to see your keys, then go into BFBC2 and select Redeem Key (or something like that), it's under multiplayer I think. I'm not at my PC that may be a little off, but I think you can find it.
You have to play in a multiplayer game after entering your key for the unlocks to show up.
Janus67
03-04-10, 10:57 AM
Anyone out there pre-order from steam? I seem to remember someone saying it came with unlocks if you did, but im not sure if i have them unlocked or if i need to do something. Am i going crazy?
when you pre-ordered I believe you have two separate keys (I did when pre-ordering through EA store) one is your main license key the second is your LE/VIP key which you have to use on the multiplayer-> redeem code and type it in there without hyphens.
Red_LightRanger
03-04-10, 11:03 AM
Your game should come with 2 CD Keys, one for the game and one to unlock the pre-order stuff. Right click on BFBC2 in your Steam games list and click "View Game CD Keys" to see your keys, then go into BFBC2 and select Redeem Key (or something like that), it's under multiplayer I think. I'm not at my PC that may be a little off, but I think you can find it.
You have to play in a multiplayer game after entering your key for the unlocks to show up.
when you pre-ordered I believe you have two separate keys (I did when pre-ordering through EA store) one is your main license key the second is your LE/VIP key which you have to use on the multiplayer-> redeem code and type it in there without hyphens.
Ahh thanks I will try tonite.
Tophinater
03-04-10, 11:18 AM
I don't understand why so many people are having trouble connection to servers. I play for several hours last night and has no issues except the coms stopped working.
TommyHolly
03-04-10, 11:43 AM
I just kinda jumped in and didnt bother figuring out which buttos do what. I've been playing Recon only pretty much and have gotten VERY good at sniping people from all/half way across the map... I unlocked a 12X Zoom scope and a special Scope add-on that automoatically spots people so I don't have to press the button. (I didn't watch that Youtube movie until just now and had no idea how to spot people and how many points you get for it?)
Recon tips:
1. Use that Mortar strike constantly!! The best things to do is use it to clear trees in your way. Also it's very helpfull by taking out walls of buildings for a clear view to snipe people inside. ALWAYS take out the wall on your side and try to leave the wall on the enemies side up if you are playing the game where you have to arm charges. It leaves you with a clear view of enemies and the objective while your teammates are protected from enemy snipers.
2. Ocassionally I'll get in a Helicopter or Tank just to clear away buildings and trees so I can snipe better. Also, you can use the Tanks and stuff to literally blow up the objective. Why even bother arming a chage when you can just blow the thing up? LOL
3. Spot people. You can still see the red dot over the enemies heads even if they are hiding behind a tree or hill.
4. Different sniper rifles have bullets that travel and drop at different speeds. The initial rifle sucks. I'm on my 5th sniper rifle (not including all these random weapons you get as well). I find myself using the SV 86 and the GOL the most. It sucks you have to reload after every shot but I rather have the insta-kill head shot.
5. Go for the headshot unless you are worried someone is gonna run away out of view. It usually takes a few shots to kill people but a head shot is instant death. Once they they get hit, they'll hide usually. So it's better to shoot and miss just over thier head because unless they were looking at where you were, they don't know you are there.
6. Run behind enemy lines and shoot from behind. So many noobs are in the game and many times you can pick people off easier if they are running away from you and towards your own team. If you get headshots and are not hiding next to any recognizable landmarks, they'll think you are with the rest of your team. If you simply just wound them, then they'll know you are behind somewhere.
Things I still don't know about: (Maybe you guys do?)
1. How do you Mute people? I frikken HATE people just blabbing away reciting rap lyrics the entire time. How do you mute while in the game???
2. I have Bronze/Silver/Gold stars in a few weapons and things like the knife. What's that good for? As far as I can tell, all it does is simply give you points to level up with.
3. I haven't even touched the other classes... I would love to see some tips on what to do with them.
At first I liked MW2 better because it has better graphics. I'm liking this game alot more because it has much better gameplay and there is a sense of achievement of taking ground, having limited number of respawns, its more realistic, and is way better at teamwork.
At first I liked MW2 better because it has better graphics. I'm liking this game alot more because it has much better gameplay and there is a sense of achievement of taking ground, having limited number of respawns, its more realistic, and is way better at teamwork.
Better graphics on MW2? :confused: It is not even close!
lordkosc
03-04-10, 01:05 PM
I got behind the lines and did 3 knife attacks in under 20 seconds, it was epic.
Also I have 2 gold stars now on my 1911 pistol :D
TOM , whats the sniper upgrade called that auto spots? that would sure save the heck out of my Q key. I am around 1300 points from the 12x scope.
Yeah, at last the download is complete via steam. Let's see what's cooking :D
rainless
03-04-10, 02:49 PM
I got behind the lines and did 3 knife attacks in under 20 seconds, it was epic.
Also I have 2 gold stars now on my 1911 pistol :D
TOM , whats the sniper upgrade called that auto spots? that would sure save the heck out of my Q key. I am around 1300 points from the 12x scope.
Yeah Tom. What is it?
And yeah... I just did 3 knife kills myself. Then I did ten more! It unlocked some sort of light armor combat upgrade for me... I haven't checked it out yet.
I've been BARNSTORMING through this game! First I unlocked everything there was to unlock for the Medic. Then I unlocked everything for Recon, then I'm just shy of the landmines for the engineer, and I just unlocked the ammo pack for the Assault guy.
So... all-in-all... I'm pretty well-rounded now. I can play whatever position a situation calls for. (I sucked at the engineer when I first started playing retail, but I got it all back the last engineer game I played and I got 3000 points!)
Yeah, at last the download is complete via steam. Let's see what's cooking :D
Hahahaha! You're hilarious!
That's exactly why I can't be bothered with S.T.E.A.M. on a slow connection. The rest of us have been playing almost a week! :p
hajalie24
03-04-10, 04:36 PM
This game seems to be working better now. Played some conquest and won every game.
I hate hardcore though, it's not hard for me to kill someone in regular mode. The guns fire pretty fast so up close it's an easy kill, from long range just fire in bursts.
mxthunder
03-04-10, 04:49 PM
Just finished the story mode, awesome! Glad I bought it, I didnt even know what Bad company was on wednesday, and now im a huge fan!
Does anyone know where the saved game location is?
rainless
03-04-10, 05:15 PM
This game seems to be working better now. Played some conquest and won every game.
I hate hardcore though, it's not hard for me to kill someone in regular mode. The guns fire pretty fast so up close it's an easy kill, from long range just fire in bursts.
Yeah. I think people like "Hardcore" just because it's more like Modern Warfare.
THAT... I can do without.
I've never had any trouble killing anybody in regular mode either. I've been playing since before the beta was open (and before the demo). So far I've unlocked almost everything for every class (and I'm doing alright with the vehicles.
I suggest you watch Zombieland for what I believe is "Rule 17:"
...DOUBLE TAP!
don'tknow
03-04-10, 07:18 PM
4. Different sniper rifles have bullets that travel and drop at different speeds. The initial rifle sucks. I'm on my 5th sniper rifle (not including all these random weapons you get as well). I find myself using the SV 86 and the GOL the most. It sucks you have to reload after every shot but I rather have the insta-kill head shot.
Haven't unlocked the GOL yet, but the M95 (usable in single player) is pretty sick. Kind of wish they showed the stats for distance and travel speed on each weapon, but I'll find out by trying it myself either way.
By SV86 did you mean SV98 Snaiperskaya? That one does have more range and travel speed than M24, only problem is sometimes it takes 3 shots to kill someone (2 max with the M24). The automatic one (T88 S) is very good in hardcore since you can take someone down in 2 body hits (instead of 5+) so you can get kill streaks in quick succession before reloading.
Yeah. I think people like "Hardcore" just because it's more like Modern Warfare.
THAT... I can do without.
People just like "Hardcore" mode because it makes all of the weapons useful again. You can do just as well with the SCAR as you can with the UMP45, so the playing field is a bit more even, especially at range. It also makes vehicles like the Bradley IFV halfway decent instead of requiring a full "burst" to take someone down.
Shooting someone six times in the chest and having them not die is annoying to me, I play hardcore 90% of the time now.
lordkosc
03-04-10, 09:46 PM
anyone getting hardlocks? all of a sudden tonight i had 2 in less than 30 minutes.
game has worked fine since beta , now this...
i am defragging and updating my nvidia drivers.
rainless
03-04-10, 11:12 PM
Shooting someone six times in the chest and having them not die is annoying to me.
Ever heard of body armor? Shoot 'em in the head!
And why the hell would you want all the guns to be the same? What's the point of having multiple guns if they all fire the same? How about you just... I don't know... UNLOCK BETTER GUNS?
anyone getting hardlocks? all of a sudden tonight i had 2 in less than 30 minutes.
game has worked fine since beta , now this...
i am defragging and updating my nvidia drivers.
The servers are overloaded. They didn't expect anyone to buy the game. :p
SteveLord
03-04-10, 11:59 PM
The guns are all the same, whether its Normal or Hardcore. They either take forever to kill or they don't. In Normal, you can be pumping someone and he can survive long enough to run up and stab you. I've done it many times.
Ever heard of body armor? Shoot 'em in the head!
Since you're trying to pull a "reality" card on me, might I remind you that you're playing a BF game. But since you went there, body armor doesnt stop six shots from a Type 88 sniper rifle at point blank while allowing the target to fire back, sorry to burst your bubble. As someone who wears body armor in the line of duty on a semi regular basis I'm extremely familiar with it's capability.
And why the hell would you want all the guns to be the same? What's the point of having multiple guns if they all fire the same? How about you just... I don't know... UNLOCK BETTER GUNS?
The guns all handle differently, drop targets in a different number of shots and are still quite unique, they just have a reasonable amount of firepower now. For example, I take a snipers with the SCAR from the first B point on valdez. It's refreshing to play an engineer and not be outgunned by everyone SO bad. It's no different than non hardcore, it just forces you makes ALL OF THE UNLOCKS USEFUL, something people might enjoy, hmm?
I'm guessing you havent actually played HC yet? If you had given HC mode some time I'm sure you would have figured all of this out before.
The servers are overloaded. They didn't expect anyone to buy the game. :p
They should have, after the massive turd of MW2
Yeah. I think people like "Hardcore" just because it's more like Modern Warfare.
THAT... I can do without.
I thought the same.
SteveLord
03-05-10, 12:50 AM
God do I hate the server browser/main menu. How can you screw this up over 7 years of BF games and several titles? It's slow, several buttons do not work (filters don't seem to for me) and it has the tendency to freeze/send you to a black screen.
I thought the same.
Actually it's more like being closer to every other successful shooter on the market. But hey, if something being closer to MW2 is enough to make you dislike it, I dont think any amount of logic is going to convince you otherwise.
How are you guys having such a hard time killing people in normal mode? I've been playing as assault and with every weapon past the very first one I usually kill in about 10 shots. It might be a little bit too much but the weapons fire fast and players seem to go down quickly for me. I haven't played hardcore in the retail version but in the beta it seemed like vehicles were very over powered. I like assault so vehicles are my biggest enemy so hardcore isn't the greatest. I can't even imagine playing rush with hardcore. How could the defenders ever lose?
How are you guys having such a hard time killing people in normal mode? I've been playing as assault and with every weapon past the very first one I usually kill in about 10 shots.[/ quote]
[quote]I've been playing as assault and with every weapon past the very first one I usually kill in about 10 shots.
every weapon past the very first one I usually kill in about 10 shots.
in about 10 shots.
do I need to be any more specific? And odds are thats at extremely close range.
I can't even imagine playing rush with hardcore. How could the defenders ever lose?
Thats because you havent tried.
don'tknow
03-05-10, 03:56 AM
The server browser is always being very slow but I'm not getting any crashes. Disconnects sometimes.
Adding server to favorites doesn't work most of the time either, just stuck at 'waiting for data'. And won't connect to some servers at all even if not full, without displaying a message that 'server is full'. I think the adding to favorites option is done on the server browser's side, otherwise it wouldn't have to 'wait for data' so long... strange why they won't make that client side.
Actually it's more like being closer to every other successful shooter on the market. But hey, if something being closer to MW2 is enough to make you dislike it, I dont think any amount of logic is going to convince you otherwise.
It's not that I dislike it. Its just I enjoy more BF series "long" 1 vs. 1 fights. :P
Janus67
03-05-10, 07:02 AM
Played HC squad DM last night and it was a blast. I definitely agree with Wraith that it makes a pretty big difference but in a good way. I wish there was a medium-core mode that had the same bullet damage but the other features still turned on. It is like a mixture between Battlefield normal and MW2 HC, where you don't have HUD etc but it takes 3-4 bullets to kill someone which I find to be perfect. With the squad DM though I don't know why but people rarely rushed towards the anti-infantry tank/apcs so I would hop in and plow people with it.
Leviathan41
03-05-10, 10:47 AM
I wish there was a medium-core mode that had the same bullet damage but the other features still turned on.
+1 to that! That would be perfect.
Tophinater
03-05-10, 12:17 PM
I kind of like that it takes 8 rounds or so to kill someone. On the more confined parts of maps when things get curazy you wouldn't stay alive for longer than 3 seconds if there was greater bullet damage. I think dice found a good balance between living time and bullet damage.
In case I have missed it, is there any way to host your own server? Being able to try vehicles or maps without the distraction by others would be a big plus.
EarthDog
03-05-10, 01:09 PM
In case I have missed it, is there any way to host your own server? Being able to try vehicles or maps without the distraction by others would be a big plus.Thats called singple player on easy... :santa: :rock:
lordkosc
03-05-10, 01:15 PM
What is everyone using to fly?
Keyboard and mouse , allows me to take off and promptly crash 400 or so feet from where I took off :D
EarthDog
03-05-10, 01:24 PM
PS2 like logitech controller...used to be keybaord and didnt have that issue... wasnt easy, but wasnt.
Tophinater
03-05-10, 01:31 PM
I just use my keyboard with the mouse. Use the weds or w/e keys and the arrow keys. Use the shift key to fire.
Janus67
03-05-10, 01:39 PM
What is everyone using to fly?
Keyboard and mouse , allows me to take off and promptly crash 400 or so feet from where I took off :D
I'm having 0 issues flying with the helicopter with a keyboard and mouse, it is significantly easier than what it was in BF2 using them, actually. Just takes a bit of practice which I must have muscle memory from 5 years ago when I played it.
Dapman02
03-05-10, 02:43 PM
currently at 27 percent
Can't wait much longer
Leviathan41
03-05-10, 03:08 PM
What is everyone using to fly?
Keyboard and mouse , allows me to take off and promptly crash 400 or so feet from where I took off :D
I was a pretty decent helicopter pilot in BF2 with my joystick, but BC2 has pretty bad joystick support. I hope they fix it soon.
SteveLord
03-05-10, 03:34 PM
I was a pretty decent helicopter pilot in BF2 with my joystick, but BC2 has pretty bad joystick support. I hope they fix it soon.
Choppers aren't raping infantry on the ground. Enjoying it so far.
do I need to be any more specific? And odds are thats at extremely close range.
Thats because you havent tried.
That isn't at just close range. At range (80-100 yards) or at close range its easy to get kills. I'm currently using either the m16a2 or the m416 with the better aim spec and the 4x scope. The only time I don't kill them is if I'm really bad with my aim or if someone else shots me.
You're right about me not trying hardcore rush. I've found with regular I almost always get the first couple shots on an enemy. Most of the time they go down before they have a chance to head to any cover. In hardcore I don't think they'd be able to even get a shot off. I'm probably not going to try hardcore to be honest. I didn't like how overpowered vechicals were in the beta. With the weapons becoming more powerful with the retail release I imagine they would be even more overpowered. To each his own I guess.
Is anyone else unable to log in right now?
-edit-
I looked up some of the stats for the different assault rifles in regular mode. Even at range none of them take more than 8 hits. If you aren't downing them in less than 10 hits then you aren't aiming at them well.
lordkosc
03-05-10, 04:01 PM
Everything seems to be down, even the EA Battlefield 2 Forums
:O
jstutman
03-05-10, 04:07 PM
Yeah, not able to log in. Its all over, so its not us
EarthDog
03-05-10, 04:08 PM
Must be getting slammed.. Kind of glad I havent installed it yet...ok, not really.
TommyHolly
03-05-10, 04:10 PM
Better graphics on MW2? :confused: It is not even close!
I'm playing the PS3 and stuff in the background like mountains sometimes magically appears. The people look a little less defined and generic. There isn't as much rubble and small details like in MW2. Things like grass and trees look more realistic. MW2 had more detail on walls and buildings. BF2 uses the same things over and over in each map, (like the ship that is tilted is repeated a few times) The graphics looked slightly better in MW2 BUT, the enviroment is WAY better in BF2 because you can destroy nearly everything.
TOM , whats the sniper upgrade called that auto spots? that would sure save the heck out of my Q key. I am around 1300 points from the 12x scope.
Why is everyone calling me Tom? I feel like I'm at a job interview...LOL It's Tommy. That Scope Spot add-on goes in the second slot. The slot between Scope Selection to the left (Things like the 4X, Red Dot, or 12X) and the right (where you pick your V Reload and stuff for Tanks and stuff.) It's the only option available in that slot for me and I've unlocked everything for Recon as far as I know?
Note, it doesn't work on people way off in the distance, only on medium range. By the way, how do you normally spot people?? I've been trying to press the Select button and all it does is bring up a list of who's playing.
Haven't unlocked the GOL yet, but the M95 (usable in single player) is pretty sick. Kind of wish they showed the stats for distance and travel speed on each weapon, but I'll find out by trying it myself either way.
I just finished all the unlocks (as far as I know) for Recon and the one under it for Vehicles. The last weapon you get is the M95 Sniper Rifle. It pretty much killed everyone 1 shot and has next to no bullet drop!! The only time it didn't is when I grazed them in the arm in which case it took a single round from my 1911 Handgun to finish them off. It rocks and doesnt take long to reload.
anyone getting hardlocks? all of a sudden tonight i had 2 in less than 30 minutes.
game has worked fine since beta , now this...
I play the PS3 and my game has locked up once every 10 games. I've had to shut the PS3 down and restart it in order to get past it.
Choppers aren't raping infantry on the ground. Enjoying it so far.
Every time I've tried steering a chopper I've completely gone out of control. I really need to practice with it. (any tips for the chopper??) Some guy last night was using the UAV and was incredible!! He could chase me down and pick me off from any angle no matter how hard I tried to hide. I couldnt get away from him. I tried the UAV and it's a bit easier than the Chopper.
Still have no idea how to mute people!! ARRRGH!!!
lordkosc
03-05-10, 04:19 PM
found out my locking issue was due to the nvidia 196.75 drivers, just hope the card isn't permanently damaged, as it was not increasing the fan speed with temperature.
gonna test it tonight , once I can get on...
the EA forums have 1600 people visiting it now, lol.
rainless
03-05-10, 04:32 PM
I'm playing the PS3 and stuff in the background like mountains sometimes magically appears. The people look a little less defined and generic. There isn't as much rubble and small details like in MW2. Things like grass and trees look more realistic. MW2 had more detail on walls and buildings. BF2 uses the same things over and over in each map, (like the ship that is tilted is repeated a few times) The graphics looked slightly better in MW2 BUT, the enviroment is WAY better in BF2 because you can destroy nearly everything.
Why is everyone calling me Tom? I feel like I'm at a job interview...LOL It's Tommy. That Scope Spot add-on goes in the second slot. The slot between Scope Selection to the left (Things like the 4X, Red Dot, or 12X) and the right (where you pick your V Reload and stuff for Tanks and stuff.) It's the only option available in that slot for me and I've unlocked everything for Recon as far as I know?
Note, it doesn't work on people way off in the distance, only on medium range. By the way, how do you normally spot people?? I've been trying to press the Select button and all it does is bring up a list of who's playing.
HOLDING the select button brings up the score sheet. Pressing it once spots people.
Janus67
03-05-10, 05:12 PM
from the BFBC2 twitter:
EA Online is currently investigating an outage of the servers that affects a number of EA games. A fix will be done as soon as possible.
sigh
hajalie24
03-05-10, 05:23 PM
I read somewhere that more people were in game in servers for pc for consoles, lol.
SteveLord
03-05-10, 07:29 PM
I just got to laugh at people who had used EA Downloader and are having issues with this game (or other games.)
If people really dislike EA so much (many of us do right?)....why in the world would they trust buying/downloading games using their services? At least Steam is a proven product. And their support is pretty good.
lordkosc
03-05-10, 08:20 PM
so i am still getting lock ups with the older drivers 196.21 now too ...
my video card is fine, as i tried out bioshock 2 for 30 minutes and no freezes...
i have just uninstalled BC2, and am reinstalling...
hopefully this fixes it...
TommyHolly
03-05-10, 10:07 PM
Here is a weapons chart for the game!! Check it out:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5759/1291348-f_13corlwgm_0ae7216.png
Interesting that the m14ebr and the garand are pretty much exactly the same.
lordkosc
03-06-10, 06:28 AM
my lock ups continue , but I believe its memory related, there is a leak...
i have had no issues before 3/3/10 , since 3/4/10 i've had constant lockups , requiring a hard boot.
:confused:with all settings on low , my longest game has been 3hrs and a few minutes, at which time I quit playing
:confused:with all settings on high, my longest game has been 12 minutes, in which the game locks up
I am going to test on medium tonight. No one else is having this issue?
There is a post on the BC2 site that is over 25 pages long now with people having the same issue as myself. :bang head
Leviathan41
03-06-10, 09:26 AM
my lock ups continue , but I believe its memory related, there is a leak...
i have had no issues before 3/3/10 , since 3/4/10 i've had constant lockups , requiring a hard boot.
:confused:with all settings on low , my longest game has been 3hrs and a few minutes, at which time I quit playing
:confused:with all settings on high, my longest game has been 12 minutes, in which the game locks up
I am going to test on medium tonight. No one else is having this issue?
There is a post on the BC2 site that is over 25 pages long now with people having the same issue as myself. :bang head
Wow, that sucks. I haven't had this issue fortunately. Is your memory usage steadily growing while you play (pointing to a memory leak)?
SteveLord
03-06-10, 10:34 AM
I've been able to play for hours. I have had 1 CTD (lost a lot of points on it too) that I can think of.
I do experience freezing issues at the menu sometimes......which is why I hate it so much.
don'tknow
03-06-10, 09:39 PM
Failed to connect to EA online.
Retrying for 15 mins so far. This didn't happen the past few days.
Didn't happen the past few days? Where have you been? EA going down has been a daily thing.
don'tknow
03-06-10, 09:42 PM
Been playing like 5-8 hours per day and it was fine til now.
Most likely a player cap for connecting to EA online which is being reached more frequently as more people are getting the game. Grats EA on not upgrading your master servers.
hajalie24
03-06-10, 09:42 PM
I was owning everyone with my scar, even snipers, until the servers went down :(
lordkosc
03-07-10, 01:27 AM
fixed my locking issue, was related to my realtek audio drivers, i am now using 2.43 and able to play , was in game for almost 5 hours :D
love the 2nd auto shotty with the extended magazine, 12 freaking rounds of deadly win :D
almost have recon and engineer maxed out!!!
gregers05
03-07-10, 02:09 AM
Failed to connect to EA online.
Retrying for 15 mins so far. This didn't happen the past few days.
yeah theres a thread on EA's site that is 68 pages long about that....EA fawked up bad
rainless
03-07-10, 07:24 AM
I was disconnected from a server... had 3000 points that game. Won a trophy and a gun. When I logged back in I was out 5000 points. 3000 from that game and 2000 from the year before.
sandyduff
03-07-10, 03:08 PM
yeah theres a thread on EA's site that is 68 pages long about that....EA fawked up bad
Yup... EA has been up and down all day... currently down... not impressed...
lordkosc
03-07-10, 03:27 PM
its simple , too many people bought the game...
lol.
lordkosc
03-07-10, 03:48 PM
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/07/battlefield-bad-company-2-server-update-2010-03-07.aspx
peak usage is 400% higher than any other battlefield game :O
hajalie24
03-07-10, 04:38 PM
The UMP.45 is awesome, unlocked it today, and even got called a hacker for the first time in this game! It's like a rapid fire version of the scar.
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/07/battlefield-bad-company-2-server-update-2010-03-07.aspx
peak usage is 400% higher than any other battlefield game :O
Wow that is rediculous. It explains why they are having outage troubles. Hopefully they can beef up their infrastructure quickly. I don't mind the occasional trouble when a game first launches but I expect the majority of bugs/problems to be worked out within 2-4 weeks.
TommyHolly
03-07-10, 07:16 PM
I've been having that problem where my PS3 freezes up completely (only on this game). The last time it happened, I had to restart my PS3 like usual. When I logged back in, all my guns and unlocks were gone!! The strange thing is, when I am playing the game I can select them but from the main menu it looks like all my XP started over and I'm level 1???
Anti-Hero
03-07-10, 10:26 PM
I have had no issues with gameplay except for on day 1 and 2, those issues are fixed now. most of em were stats and stuff like that. One thing that bothers me is I'm supposed to have a Garand, it it's even showed in my unlocks but I cannot choose it in my load outs. Anyone else experiencing this?
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/07/battlefield-bad-company-2-server-update-2010-03-07.aspx
peak usage is 400% higher than any other battlefield games :O
Combined
Jawsome
03-07-10, 11:46 PM
Why in every game I'm in, do I end up on the team with a 4 person disadvantage. Nobody uses autobalance? Or does autobalance not work if everyone's in a squad? It's getting stupid.
rainless
03-08-10, 01:30 AM
I've been having that problem where my PS3 freezes up completely (only on this game). The last time it happened, I had to restart my PS3 like usual. When I logged back in, all my guns and unlocks were gone!! The strange thing is, when I am playing the game I can select them but from the main menu it looks like all my XP started over and I'm level 1???
I have had no issues with gameplay except for on day 1 and 2, those issues are fixed now. most of em were stats and stuff like that. One thing that bothers me is I'm supposed to have a Garand, it it's even showed in my unlocks but I cannot choose it in my load outs. Anyone else experiencing this?
This is related to the problem I was mentioning earlier about starting a game and it taking up to five minutes for the server to pick up your stats. So... until then... you can only load the default guns. I usually just switch the menus until my guns and perks show up.
Anti-Hero
03-08-10, 02:30 AM
I have been trying that with no success. It's disappointing really, but that's ok. I will get my garand since I do have veteran status.
Janus67
03-08-10, 07:28 AM
Why in every game I'm in, do I end up on the team with a 4 person disadvantage. Nobody uses autobalance? Or does autobalance not work if everyone's in a squad? It's getting stupid.
That is one really annoying part, although I would feel bad for anyone who has been doing decently on the winning team helping them win then getting moved to the losing team when they have <10 tickets left to get knocked out of 200pts/best squad/etc on the other team.
They do need to fix it or not let team changes happen at any time when the other team has more players, things just go from bad to worse. I can say that I have joined and immediately joined the other team if mine is getting slaughtered. I'm okay at the game but I'm not (lawl) Fatal1ty to go out and kill everyone and bring the game back, especially if that round is going to be over soon.
SteveLord
03-08-10, 09:18 AM
Why in every game I'm in, do I end up on the team with a 4 person disadvantage. Nobody uses autobalance? Or does autobalance not work if everyone's in a squad? It's getting stupid.
There IS a bug that prevents you from switching teams more than 1 time, no matter how much time has elapsed or how many maps have been played through. Only way to fix that is to leave/rejoin the server.
I've been having that problem where my PS3 freezes up completely (only on this game). The last time it happened, I had to restart my PS3 like usual. When I logged back in, all my guns and unlocks were gone!! The strange thing is, when I am playing the game I can select them but from the main menu it looks like all my XP started over and I'm level 1???
Thats another bug that has happened to me and my friends. It doens't last forever and you have all your unlocks. I'm kinda thinking that if you rank up the bug gets fixed but I'm not sure. I'm still waiting for that to happen to me again so I can test out my theory.
don'tknow
03-08-10, 07:09 PM
Am I really missing something, or is there no way to add a server to favorites after you've joined it? Seems pretty retarded because how would I know if I like a server until I join it and try it out first. Then again, I can't even add favorites from the main browser window either... it's just stuck at 'waiting for data' forever.
Am I really missing something, or is there no way to add a server to favorites after you've joined it? Seems pretty retarded because how would I know if I like a server until I join it and try it out first. Then again, I can't even add favorites from the main browser window either... it's just stuck at 'waiting for data' forever.
My favorites are messed up a bit too. I've sometimes been able to add a server to my favorites from my server history list. Maybe that'll work. I just can't wait until they fix all the bugs in this game. It'll be an amazing game then but until they fix the bugs it'll just be another decent game imho.
gregers05
03-09-10, 01:33 AM
i dont have a problem adding servers to my favorites from the server browser. when the server browser is loading i just exit out of it and all the servers pop up. the players in the server are never right and there is no ping. i have found 2 servers that work and just play on one or the other.
just maxed out the recon for unlocks and the M95 is sweet! havent even tried any of the other classes yet
Janus67
03-09-10, 07:47 AM
Am I really missing something, or is there no way to add a server to favorites after you've joined it? Seems pretty retarded because how would I know if I like a server until I join it and try it out first. Then again, I can't even add favorites from the main browser window either... it's just stuck at 'waiting for data' forever.
If you go under history I'm sure you can use the drop down arrow next to the server name (same thing I do on the main page) and to 'add to favorites'
rainless
03-09-10, 10:25 AM
Don't know about the PC version... but on the console they still haven't opened the Battlefield Store yet... which means we still can't get the free maps and modes we were supposed to get for pre-ordering.
Red_LightRanger
03-09-10, 10:58 AM
Don't know about the PC version... but on the console they still haven't opened the Battlefield Store yet... which means we still can't get the free maps and modes we were supposed to get for pre-ordering.
was gonna say....i did the promo code thing cuz i preordered thru steam, but all it unlocked was a thompson and something else.
So we get more when the store opens?
rainless
03-09-10, 11:46 AM
was gonna say....i did the promo code thing cuz i preordered thru steam, but all it unlocked was a thompson and something else.
So we get more when the store opens?
Yes: http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/Default.aspx##
Leviathan41
03-09-10, 12:49 PM
Don't know about the PC version... but on the console they still haven't opened the Battlefield Store yet... which means we still can't get the free maps and modes we were supposed to get for pre-ordering.
PC version had these on release. Laguna Alta is one of my favorite maps, it reminds me a bit of Songua Stalemate in BF2. :)
was gonna say....i did the promo code thing cuz i preordered thru steam, but all it unlocked was a thompson and something else.
So we get more when the store opens?
The PC version was (automatically) updated with a Day 0 patch that included these two new maps. If you pre-ordered from Steam and entered your Promotional code into the game you also got the two guns (Thompson and M1911 pistol), the tracer dart, and the three vehicle upgrades. If you played any previous battlefield games and you go to http://veteran.battlefield.com/ and associate at least one of those games with your account, you will unlock the M1 Garand (however there have been some problems with the Battlefield veterans site recently so it may or may not work right now).
SteveLord
03-09-10, 03:12 PM
The BF Veterans site has issues with telling you your cdkey(s) have already been used. I had 4 of them not work.
Tip for getting the M1 Garand (not that great of a weapon though.)
- Get 1 BF game to register correctly.
- Sign up for a BF Heroes account
lordkosc
03-09-10, 04:24 PM
ugh, its like EVERYONE stopped spotting, and stopped throwing them recon sensors, much rage...
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean10/pc/DatDereCellTech.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net)
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/
Pretty awesome!
MooMasster716
03-09-10, 04:34 PM
Are the unlocks in the Limited Edition unlockable through just playing the regular edition? I'm looking to pick up this game after finals. Also F*** Battlefield Heroes after they jacked up the prices, I recommend not even bothering to sign up for any reason.
Are the unlocks in the Limited Edition unlockable through just playing the regular edition? I'm looking to pick up this game after finals. Also F*** Battlefield Heroes after they jacked up the prices, I recommend not even bothering to sign up for any reason.
BC2 mops the floor of Heroes assuming you can run it.
Leviathan41
03-09-10, 04:45 PM
The BF Veterans site has issues with telling you your cdkey(s) have already been used. I had 4 of them not work.
Tip for getting the M1 Garand (not that great of a weapon though.)
- Get 1 BF game to register correctly.
- Sign up for a BF Heroes account
If you keep trying your keys they will eventually work. It took me dozens of tries before my BF42 key worked, but I finally got it working, I have Veteran Rank 4, now. :)
Are the unlocks in the Limited Edition unlockable through just playing the regular edition? I'm looking to pick up this game after finals. Also F*** Battlefield Heroes after they jacked up the prices, I recommend not even bothering to sign up for any reason.
Yes, everything from the Limited Edition is available as unlocks you can earn in the game, the LE just gives them to you early.
Janus67
03-09-10, 06:20 PM
which you then re-unlock as you progress through levels which I find hilarious.
Been playing this so much!! Just turned 26 hours I've got everything for Assault, Engee, and Medic. I do love that freakin M60 with Magnum ammo on Hardcore mode. I've also been using the M14 ALOT!! Dunno just don't like the G3 right now.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/Kaizer.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net)
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/
Pretty awesome!
Is that the only website giving stats?
lordkosc
03-10-10, 07:05 AM
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/TheShadow81.png
cool little link
anyway, the game told me I had 10 silver stars last night, and proceed to give me 10000 points for that, and a badge :D
SteveLord
03-10-10, 07:38 AM
I must have racked up well over 20,000 points in a game lastnight...on top of a 4:1 KDR...only to crash to desktop about 30 seconds before the end of the round.
That was all after I spent 20 minutes trying to join a server. Part of the reason why I don't like to stop playing...because its such a pain in the ass to get in a server with your buddies due to broken friendslist and server browser.
Janus67
03-10-10, 08:07 AM
I must have racked up well over 20,000 points in a game lastnight...on top of a 4:1 KDR...only to crash to desktop about 30 seconds before the end of the round.
That was all after I spent 20 minutes trying to join a server. Part of the reason why I don't like to stop playing...because its such a pain in the ass to get in a server with your buddies due to broken friendslist and server browser.
similar thing happened to me last night, although it was only 7k (ish) points because I got a 5k badge thing and was #1 on K/D with a lot of points as medic then get DCed when the other team has like 5 tickets.
hajalie24
03-10-10, 09:35 AM
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean6/pc/deadlykiller24.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/pc/deadlykiller24)
cool link. last couple of games i've been doing well with the shotguns lol.
joedymueller
03-10-10, 12:02 PM
shesh you guys play alot.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/puddge.png
EarthDog
03-10-10, 12:11 PM
LOL wow am I bad at this game so far... Need to learn to stop running in the open...
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean8/pc/%5BSec8%5DDiscostu.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/pc/%5BSec8%5DDiscostu)
TommyHolly
03-10-10, 01:22 PM
My stats are a combinatio of me and my roommate, (who kinda sucks) and won't stop sniping from sticking his head out the windows and running in the open...rrrrgh.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean9/ps3/TommyHolly.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/ps3/TommyHolly)
SeanBest
03-10-10, 01:34 PM
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/Beefie.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/pc/Beefie)
Janus67
03-10-10, 02:51 PM
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/Janus%20|%20OSU.png
sandyduff
03-10-10, 02:59 PM
I'm still not that great at it.... i never got a chance to play the beta, that's my excuse and i'm sticking to it... :D
Edit: I managed to kill somebody with the defibrillator yesterday... i was about to revive a buddy and an enemy ran around the corner, so instinctively i clicked to fire... but i had the defibrillator out, luckily he was close!!
rainless
03-10-10, 04:07 PM
Damn... It must be MUCH easier to kill people with a mouse and keyboard! :p
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean5/ps3/TeamRainless.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/ps3/TeamRainless)
EarthDog
03-10-10, 04:07 PM
Pffffff Team Rainless, look at my stats... BUt then again, thats with all of 2 hours total with the beta. Im not good, but so far there hasnt been a game that kept me under .500 for k/d ratio in the end. We'll see how this goes as I am getting STOMPED so far!
rainless
03-10-10, 05:00 PM
Pffffff Team Rainless, look at my stats... BUt then again, thats with all of 2 hours total with the beta. Im not good, but so far there hasnt been a game that kept me under .500 for k/d ratio in the end. We'll see how this goes as I am getting STOMPED so far!
I'd be over 1000 now with a 1.1 kill death ratio if I didn't spend three hours flying the helicopter. (Well... an hour to LEARN how to fly it and two hours flying without crashing.)
You don't really get the kills for piloting that thing. You get driver assists or something silly. But that's like another 300 kills right there. All my friends who were passengers have an extra 300 kills and we all started at the same time.
As for the deaths? I take some pretty WILD chances. :D
I got that trophy for killing someone with a headshot using the repair tool. :beer:
lordkosc
03-10-10, 05:15 PM
don't lie rainless, we all know you can't aim, due to lack of thumbs... :D
Leviathan41
03-10-10, 06:30 PM
Damn... It must be MUCH easier to kill people with a mouse and keyboard! :p
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean5/ps3/TeamRainless.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/ps3/TeamRainless)
Don't worry about your K : D, it's all about helping the team, and since you have the word "team" in your name, I'm sure you are helping the team! :p
raIDERgeek
03-10-10, 06:56 PM
Whats the best way to find servers in there ****ty browser? I just want to find some good west coast hard core servers
don'tknow
03-10-10, 07:50 PM
It seems to be taking even longer to load server list, as more servers keep being added over time.
Since EA is so poor they can't afford an upgrade to their BC2 master servers.
Janus67
03-10-10, 09:26 PM
/shrug even when I try to connect I just get the message that I can't connect to the game server check my network connection...
SteveLord
03-10-10, 09:33 PM
Sweet.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/stevelord.png
Sweet.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/stevelord.png
I see the Lord thing isn't for show.
Here's mine
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean4/pc/Kaizer.png
That thing is kinda broken though. In-Game it says I have
45 Total Dog Tags and 36 Unique.
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/wraithxt1.png
You guys need to work on your tags =P
FishDog3
03-11-10, 04:04 AM
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/wraithxt1.png
You guys need to work on your tags =P
Pfft, almost have platinum on my blade. Too bad it doesn't show the 300 tags I snagged in the beta! ;)
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean10/pc/getdown.png (http://bfbc2.elxx.net/stats/pc/getdown)
I'm platinum plated now :D
I dont think that qualifies as "owned". More like one upped on knife kills. Still lagging behind by quite a bit on overall kills, even considering playtime though!
http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean1/pc/wraithxt1.png
You guys need to work on your tags =P
you were the one referring about tags as in dogtags
Yeah, I was. That still doesnt qualify as owned. Owned would have been him having many, many more knife kills. As it stands thats more, but not much more. He has less kills than I do per hour of playtime and I'm ranked higher. Not owned. Perhaps Told.
Owned
v. owned, 0wned, pwned, 0wn3d, pwn3d, own3d.
To be made a fool of; To make a fool of; To confound or prove wrong; embarrasing someone: Being embarrased.
2. owned
Total and undeniable dominance of a person, group of people or situation
Janus67
03-11-10, 06:56 AM
Hmm, well I don't generally run around for kills, instead I pad stats by throwing health packs and defibbing people!
Medic was my last class to unlock. Working on getting the MG3 now so I can finally have everything unlocked. I just dont like NOT having the ability to take out armor.
lordkosc
03-11-10, 08:01 AM
when I medic, my K/D ratio is usually bad, but I do have a lot of points from the defibs/healing
also I use the tracer dart gun , as a medic (and pretty much the only class I use it on) , due to my lack of need for a small fire arm, when I am carrying around a gun that has 200 rounds per clip, and doesn't need to be zoomed in .
you see very few tracer darts in game :(
Janus67
03-11-10, 08:20 AM
when I medic, my K/D ratio is usually bad, but I do have a lot of points from the defibs/healing
also I use the tracer dart gun , as a medic (and pretty much the only class I use it on) , due to my lack of need for a small fire arm, when I am carrying around a gun that has 200 rounds per clip, and doesn't need to be zoomed in .
you see very few tracer darts in game :(
I should start doing that more often, I equip it probably only about half the time (if that much) but good point. I still have trouble locking onto things with tracer darts though, do you just shoot at the orange box and it does it itself or do you get a 'locked' message?
joedymueller
03-11-10, 09:28 AM
Probably shouldn't tell everyone since its an exploit of sorts.
but last night after the servers came back up i logged into one of the "favorite" servers, which was empty. i was on the offensive team so i decided to hop in a tank and shoot crap... i blew up all the M-Cons and won the match with 2000 points or so with medals for blowing up 4 Mcons x2, best squad, best player in a round and winning the round.. kinda lame if you ask me...
Probably shouldn't tell everyone since its an exploit of sorts.
but last night after the servers came back up i logged into one of the "favorite" servers, which was empty. i was on the offensive team so i decided to hop in a tank and shoot crap... i blew up all the M-Cons and won the match with 2000 points or so with medals for blowing up 4 Mcons x2, best squad, best player in a round and winning the round.. kinda lame if you ask me...
You need patience to level up that way, did it in the beta a couple of times and got bored. I even did that early this morning to win 2 rounds. But yea... not only is lame, it's boring.
joedymueller
03-11-10, 09:44 AM
boring of course, but would i see people doing this a lot? yep.
lordkosc
03-11-10, 10:36 AM
hmm well thats seems like no fun really, its more fun with people :D
like the time (some guy)tm came around a corner and rushed me with his pistol , running out of ammo , he for some reason switched to his unloaded rocket launcher, and I knifed him in the face, he was uber mad because he said I had 0% health...
all i know is my screen was really red , many lulz were had by me.
moral of the story, play with other people , thats why its a multiplayer game :D
come on!!! do it for the lulz!!!
With this game I'm pretty disappointed with my purchase. I was expecting this Battlefield game to play like a Battlefield game but there is a heavy emphasis on infantry combat, the vehicles seem to be there more as a novelty and are easily destroyed via C4 or RPG spam. The fact that there is only one mode of fire per spot in the vehicle and the coaxial machine guns in the tanks are only usable by a second gunner AND the actual drivers of the tank have their visibility blatantly nerfed to avoid any long-range engagement (not counting lack of any zoom) seems like a huge shortchange to me. Oh, I should also mention the turrets' vertical traverse is limited to a parallel angle with the ground, making targeting infantry in a close quarters setting all that much more difficult. It really seems like the devs did not want the vehicles to play any real threat to players in this game, just slapping them in as a kind of supplement to the gameplay.
It wouldn't be so terrible if the HEAT rounds fired actually did any damage, infantry tend to take 2+ hits to kill from indirect fire, even at extremely short range, which is absurd. It's arguably more ridiculous to have to spew 10 or so .50 cal rounds into a man to get a kill as well. Really, the tanks and other vehicles need to be made more powerful with a longer respawn time (most seem to respawn in 30 seconds or so) it would greatly increase the tactical feel of the game. As it stands now with multitudes of spawn points and being able to spawn on any one of your squadmates, the game just feels like an spammy arcade game (especially with the vehicles' unlimited ammo).
However, the infantry combat itself isn't that bad. It definitely feels leaps and bounds ahead of what previous Battlefield games employed, but it still falls short of CoD MW 1 & 2.
Leviathan41
03-11-10, 10:58 AM
More maps coming March 30 for free. Well, different game modes of current maps. Also, a direct response to MW2's new map pack and the "mapathy" marketing, I love it!
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/03/10/how-to-avoid-mapathy-without-paying.aspx
Red_LightRanger
03-11-10, 11:32 AM
one thing ive found almost useless (unless im doing it wrong) is the UAV. It seems i can fly for maybe 10 sec and i get shot down with one bullet it doesnt make sense. I think they were trying to compensate because of how it has a missle launcher and machine gun.
I miss the UAV from BF2 (and yes i know its not BF3), but it should be for spotting enemies.
TommyHolly
03-11-10, 12:00 PM
I should start doing that more often, I equip it probably only about half the time (if that much) but good point. I still have trouble locking onto things with tracer darts though, do you just shoot at the orange box and it does it itself or do you get a 'locked' message?
You can equip tracer darts as a medic? What's the point besides helping your teammates with a rocket launcher out? (I am still working on Engineer, then Assault, then Medic which I havent even touched yet.)
SteveLord
03-11-10, 12:22 PM
one thing ive found almost useless (unless im doing it wrong) is the UAV. It seems i can fly for maybe 10 sec and i get shot down with one bullet it doesnt make sense. I think they were trying to compensate because of how it has a missle launcher and machine gun.
I miss the UAV from BF2 (and yes i know its not BF3), but it should be for spotting enemies.
I believe you CAN use it for spotting....which nets you points. And while it can be killed easily, it can wreak havoc on in vehicles and infantry with its missiles.
Janus67
03-11-10, 12:24 PM
With this game I'm pretty disappointed with my purchase. I was expecting this Battlefield game to play like a Battlefield game but there is a heavy emphasis on infantry combat, the vehicles seem to be there more as a novelty and are easily destroyed via C4 or RPG spam. The fact that there is only one mode of fire per spot in the vehicle and the coaxial machine guns in the tanks are only usable by a second gunner AND the actual drivers of the tank have their visibility blatantly nerfed to avoid any long-range engagement (not counting lack of any zoom) seems like a huge shortchange to me. Oh, I should also mention the turrets' vertical traverse is limited to a parallel angle with the ground, making targeting infantry in a close quarters setting all that much more difficult. It really seems like the devs did not want the vehicles to play any real threat to players in this game, just slapping them in as a kind of supplement to the gameplay.
It wouldn't be so terrible if the HEAT rounds fired actually did any damage, infantry tend to take 2+ hits to kill from indirect fire, even at extremely short range, which is absurd. It's arguably more ridiculous to have to spew 10 or so .50 cal rounds into a man to get a kill as well. Really, the tanks and other vehicles need to be made more powerful with a longer respawn time (most seem to respawn in 30 seconds or so) it would greatly increase the tactical feel of the game. As it stands now with multitudes of spawn points and being able to spawn on any one of your squadmates, the game just feels like an spammy arcade game (especially with the vehicles' unlimited ammo).
However, the infantry combat itself isn't that bad. It definitely feels leaps and bounds ahead of what previous Battlefield games employed, but it still falls short of CoD MW 1 & 2.
For your argument of alternate fire, if you apply the alternate fire perk (V Alt W I believe it is called) you can use the secondary fire on vehicles - machine gun in tanks, guided missile in APCs, etc.
I agree about the damage, it shouldn't take much more than 1 heat shot to kill someone or a couple 50cal rounds, more than that is absurd -- although I understand the wanting to get away from BF2 levels of sitting t here in an APC spamming a wall while people spawn and die instantly.
I miss the UAV in BF2 though.
FishDog3
03-11-10, 12:31 PM
With this game I'm pretty disappointed with my purchase. I was expecting this Battlefield game to play like a Battlefield game but there is a heavy emphasis on infantry combat, the vehicles seem to be there more as a novelty and are easily destroyed via C4 or RPG spam. The fact that there is only one mode of fire per spot in the vehicle and the coaxial machine guns in the tanks are only usable by a second gunner AND the actual drivers of the tank have their visibility blatantly nerfed to avoid any long-range engagement (not counting lack of any zoom) seems like a huge shortchange to me. Oh, I should also mention the turrets' vertical traverse is limited to a parallel angle with the ground, making targeting infantry in a close quarters setting all that much more difficult. It really seems like the devs did not want the vehicles to play any real threat to players in this game, just slapping them in as a kind of supplement to the gameplay.
It wouldn't be so terrible if the HEAT rounds fired actually did any damage, infantry tend to take 2+ hits to kill from indirect fire, even at extremely short range, which is absurd. It's arguably more ridiculous to have to spew 10 or so .50 cal rounds into a man to get a kill as well. Really, the tanks and other vehicles need to be made more powerful with a longer respawn time (most seem to respawn in 30 seconds or so) it would greatly increase the tactical feel of the game. As it stands now with multitudes of spawn points and being able to spawn on any one of your squadmates, the game just feels like an spammy arcade game (especially with the vehicles' unlimited ammo).
However, the infantry combat itself isn't that bad. It definitely feels leaps and bounds ahead of what previous Battlefield games employed, but it still falls short of CoD MW 1 & 2.
FWIW, I disagree
-Zoom is an unlock.
-Tanks are dominating if you have a guner and squad supporting you.
-I don't know what you're talking about w/ mainround damage. If you hit a wall anywhere near infantry, they all die.
-You can still 3rd person view, to see, than switch back to 1st to aim.
-Choppers are even more dominating if you have a good gunner and unlocks (gunner w/ tracer, pilot with TOW).
There are a few things I don't like about the game, but overall I would say it is very fitting w/ the battlefield series. It's not BF3, but it's damn close. Honestly after getting all of the unlocks, and being one of those players that plays every class depending on the situation. I would say that there isn't much they need to change about the game.
Also, it's funny, because all of the nerfherders on the UK forums have it wrong, they want to nerf the m60/snipers/mortar/tracer/defib/noobtube but they have it all wrong. The game is pretty balanced, it's just that people are still figuring it out (and most people are just plain average when it comes to playing an FPS). Balance wise, the only things that could use a little tweaking is the removal of the invulnerability when you are rezed/defibed, all of the assault rifles need more damage (they are totally outclassed mid/far range by the LMGs, and completely outclassed close range by the SMGs), and (counter-intuitively) the 40mm/noobtube needs a blast radius buff (play w/ the engies 2nd rocket, the Gustov, and you will see what I mean. That thing is wicked, I use it ALL the time now and usually run 3:1 kd).
But that won't happen. In true BF fashion, they will listen to a bunch of baddies whining because they can't aim or figure out the maps. Than they will nerf the crap out of every gun until it's BF2 where everything is a BB gun.
FishDog3
03-11-10, 12:37 PM
I dont think that qualifies as "owned". More like one upped on knife kills. Still lagging behind by quite a bit on overall kills, even considering playtime though!
haha, give it a few days. I was playing medic like 90% of the time, and usually spent most of my time reviving. I like the rush mode the most, but the attacking teams don't get it, and usually get owned. Unless you run medic and hang right behind the major contact point defibing everyone that dies. But people are starting to figure it now now, and I've been running and engie and racking up kills like no other.
Explosives FTW ;)
lordkosc
03-11-10, 12:44 PM
tommy, i believe you get 20-30 points for scoring a tracer dart on a vehicle, and if you have a engineer in your squad and he has a RPG you get a team bonus as well, if he kills the vehicle.
i find it more useful on the medic than any other class >.<
Red_LightRanger
03-11-10, 01:02 PM
I believe you CAN use it for spotting....which nets you points. And while it can be killed easily, it can wreak havoc on in vehicles and infantry with its missiles.
ya i knew u could spot, i should have been more specific. I guess i just want to see it as the UAV in BF2. But anyway, i finished this mission a few days ago thought it was funny how they mock MW2. Few cuss words also if u havent been this far, it might be considered a spoiler.
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/bf-bc2-mocking-mw2/340805
joedymueller
03-11-10, 01:09 PM
i unlocked the spotting scope last night for recon... no clue how it works...
joedymueller
03-11-10, 01:12 PM
More maps coming March 30 for free. Well, different game modes of current maps. Also, a direct response to MW2's new map pack and the "mapathy" marketing, I love it!
VIP Map Pack 2
There was a VIP map pack 1?
VIP codes? is that the same thing as the gun you get? by owning 3 version of BF?
rainless
03-11-10, 01:28 PM
There was a VIP map pack 1?
VIP codes? is that the same thing as the gun you get? by owning 3 version of BF?
No. The guns you get just by having the limited edition of the game. The Garand you get from veteran.battlefield.com. And the VIP mode is completely different. You get that from the in-game Battlefield store. Two maps (one Rush and one Conquest.)
And more things are supposed to be coming shortly.
Janus67
03-11-10, 01:50 PM
i unlocked the spotting scope last night for recon... no clue how it works...
I thought it was supposed to spot automatically when hovering over people?
Leviathan41
03-11-10, 02:00 PM
There was a VIP map pack 1?
VIP codes? is that the same thing as the gun you get? by owning 3 version of BF?
Are you playing on PC? There is no VIP code for PC, the PC version gets all VIP map packs automatically. The first one was there on day 1 so you probably didn't even realize it was added.
lordkosc
03-11-10, 02:48 PM
I thought it was supposed to spot automatically when hovering over people?
it does, but only up to a certain range, and you have to hover over them for a second or two...
joedymueller
03-11-10, 03:03 PM
mehh doesnt seem to do anything for me.. it was late when i got it, ill check it out tonight i guess.
Frogbones
03-11-10, 03:11 PM
OH, MAN...This game is FUN. I don't have a problem with any of the "balance" problems. Enemies seem to go down just fine. I mainly pop tanks an such...always have since '42.
Graphics (to me) are great!! running on high settings undar a 1680x1050 res. and..MAN just good times. Love the fact one can't hide behind much. Enjoying the C4 and blowing a hole in the walls if the doorways and such are covered. UAV is fun, just work the R and F keys to dodge enemy fire..leave the area..they soon forget about you and then rain hell on them.
Oh and the sound....the sound effects are awesome. I play sometimes on wartracks..that sound is crazy. But mostly Hi-def to beable to get a better SA (situational Awareness) of the battle.
Fun game...
The only gripe I have is....NO PRONE!!!!! WTF!?!?! The most important thing on a battlefield is to "hit the Deck"!!!!! lower your profile. NO PRONE!?!!?! GRRRRRR
joedymueller
03-11-10, 03:43 PM
couldnt agree more Frog. Though there is still bunny hoping.
lordkosc
03-11-10, 03:48 PM
I don't miss prone , nor dolphin diving.
I bunny hop A LOT when out of ammo / reloading :D
SteveLord
03-11-10, 04:02 PM
For the new guys, RUSH mode is a lot more fun than CONQUEST's back and forth crap. Even in just Normal Mode. You can also rack up more points in Rush.
lordkosc
03-11-10, 04:09 PM
Yeah I agree, I tried conquest, and its alright, but the battle lines are so all over the place , I prefer having a front line that RUSH provides.
Stalker
03-11-10, 04:40 PM
Graphics are fantastic when running on 1920x1080.
Game smashes MW2 hands down.
FishDog3
03-11-10, 04:45 PM
i unlocked the spotting scope last night for recon... no clue how it works...
I believe that it is broken. Either that, or it only works the first time you use it. There are a few posts about it on the EA forums.
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