Network Help Plz???

[DECODER22]

hey guys i got cable modem and i got it hooke dup to my 4 port cabld/dsl router its a linksys my comp works fine it runs great with the cable now i wana add a computer to the network its got win98 i ran the cable to it and installed a NIC card but im lost on how to get it on the internet i cant figure it out PLZ HELP GUYS

[DECODER22]

and another thing what about the thin when windows 98 starts says username and password i made some stuff up is that ok

[rogerdugans]

The instructions with the Linksys are pretty straightforward, if you still have them ( I usually throw instructions to the side and promptly lose them!)

But if you don't have them: by default most gateway routers use 192.168.1.1 (my Linksys uses this) or 192.168.0.1 subnet 255.255.255.0. And usually they provide dhcp unless you shut it off. Try setting your pc to use dhcp and see if it connects; if not, try entering 192.168.1.1 after http:// in a browser - that should get you to the config screen.

My linksys used admin as the password, no username out of the box.

Those are the first things to try.....

And the username and password you made up in win98 are now the only username aand password you can use to access that pc......:D Kidding!

98 security is nonexistent: that just saves desktop settings! You can hit ESC and get to the default desktop. But you won't be able to access the 2k pc without credentials (log into the 98 pc with a username/password that is on the Win2k pc)

[DECODER22]

my main system is 2k and the username is Adminstrator then a password and on the 98 system i made it a IP address and a put in a submask and all that but it ownt connect i was wondering what on the win 98 PC do i have to do liek setting and stuff to make it work then what on the router do i have to do to make it accept 2 pcs im so lost i odnt know how to configure the 98 system for the TCP/IP i dont knwo what have to put to amke it work so pretty much i need all the deatils on adding a computer hehe

[rogerdugans]

BTW: nice avatar!

Next: alittle punctuation in the text makes it a lot easier to read and understand:D

BUT- let me see if I have this straight: one pc is setup and connected through the cable modem, you just can't get the Win98 one on, right?

[DECODER22]

yes the pc im on is connected to the computer thru my router and it works great i just want to add a computer to my router the computer im adding has windows 98 and i dont knwo what to do the NIC card is installed on the system with 98 i need all the details for making the 98 comp work thx man i sjut gota get this comp hooked up hehe

[rogerdugans]

OK.

Go to: Control Panel, open the Network icon.
You will start off at the Configuration tab, and you should see 4 things:
Client for MS Networks, your NIC, TCP/IP and File Sharing. You shouldn't need any thing else, unless there is a modem, or you play games that use IPX protocol.

Go to the TCP/IP settings and click on Properties.
***IF you use DHCP on the other pc, make sure this one is also set for DHCP (You might need to change a setting in your router to allow multiple pcs to get DHCP addresses)
***IF you do NOT use DHCP: you need to enter the information manually- ip address should be almost the same as the other on, only the last number changes. the most common settings are 192.168.1.1(subnet 255.255.255.0) for the router, 192.168.1.2 (subnet 255.255.255.0) for the first computer, so the 2nd would be: 192.168.1.3 (subnet 255.255.255.0) You will also need to enter the router's ip address on the tab for GATEWAY, and DNS (enable DNS if it is disabled)

Also on the DNS tab is a spot for HOST- that is the computers network name, and DOMAIN- this should be either the domain, or more likely the WORKGROUP your are in.

After that is done, say ok and go to the Identification tab: you must also enter the computer name and workgroup here.

Click on OK, and reboot the computer. You should now be all set.

[DECODER22]

ok what do i put for the name and workgroup and i dont have a domain my comp when it starts it says adminstrator and the password do all the comps have to have the same workgroup names and things???? jsut so i know i think i use DHCP i knwo my router dosent have a domain and things hehe thx man im gunan try that all the info i can get is great

[rogerdugans]

Workgroup names have to be the same, and if you want to make it as simple as posible, just use the same login you use on the 2000 pc on the 98 one.

The domain stuff doesn't really apply unless you have a domain controller on you network (needs NT 4.0 or Win2K Server) EXCEPT: in 98, under Client for Microsoft networks, you need to put the workgroup name where it says DOMAIN; DON"T check the box next to "USE NT DOMAIN CONTROLLER" though!

Try that, good luck, and let me know if it doesn't work!

[DECODER22]

i got win 2k adv server as the main and the user name is administrator should i use that on all of the pcs and plus my cable company dosent provide a domain so im a little lsot on that domain thing ur talking about so what should i use as a workgroup name cause the main system says Administrator????

[rogerdugans]

Okay, I'll use my setup as an example:

my workgroup is DFGNET (doesn't matter what it is as long as they are all the same), I use doug as the username, and admin as the password ( <--just an example!).

All my (windows)pcs can access each other since they use the same logon. Win9x: anyplace it SAYS domain, just put the workgroup name, but do NOT check any nearby check-boxes!

[DECODER22]

how do i set the names for win2k adv server???? so i can make themm all the same

[rogerdugans]

Actually, I don't have Adv. Server here right now....
2K Pro its-->Control Panel, Users and Passwords!

If it isn't the same, pm me and we'll finish up there, ok?

[DECODER22]

hey its not there on adv ser im new to the win2k hehe do they all have to have the same usernames

[DECODER22]

man i cant get it to work i cant get thsi other pc to add to the network im so lost with all of this my comp has DHCP enabled so does the router i dont know what is wrong i sjut need to know how to set up the TCP/IP on the win98 comp i cant get it i dont knwo whats wrong

[DECODER22]

do i need to set the router up i mean router has the thing set to 50 users im gettins so angry hehe

[rogerdugans]

Ok, slow down. It is very hard to understand what your posts mean without punctuation.

At least skip a line between sentences, please: I am trying to help out, and will continue to- but you have to stop making it harder, ok?!!!

NOW: the computer that is connected to the internet now- is it using dhcp? If yes, than set the other one the same.

To check this in Win2K, right -click on My Network Places, and then right-click Local Area Connection and select Properties.
In Properties you will see two tabs: the first says General and has a list of stuff- Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) should be there. Select TCP/IP, and then Properties. This is where you set DHCP or IP address. If the computer that DOES connect is using dhcp, then the other one needs to also.

[DECODER22]

ok sorry about that. yes my comp is using DHCP the other comp i enabled it. it asks for a DOMAIN and A Host For DHCP for win98 i put COMP TECH HOUSE for both and i dont knwo what else to do. i dont knwo if im suppose to set the gateways. and the Subnet Maks. and the IP address im jsut lost on setting up the TCP/IP

[DECODER22]

and when i log on my comp it says User Administrator and on the other PC i put User name COMP TECH HOUSE and on my comp i set the workgroup to COMP TECH HOUSE hehe i cant get that second pc to work for nuttin

[rogerdugans]

Ok! HOST is the name of the computer on the network and has to be unique.
In 98 anyplace it says DOMAIN put the name of the workgroup- this HAS to be exactly the same as the workgroup name you used in Win2K.

When you use DHCP it takes care of all the ip address and gateway stuff for you.

Can you get to the configuration screen for your router in a browser?

[DECODER22]

yes i need to know what to change on the router

[DECODER22]

cause the lights arent on for the 2nd netowrk port on the router

[DECODER22]

hey man u got ICQ or AOL or sumtin so we can chat faster that be cool

[rogerdugans]

##@4!

Should have thought of this earlier- I'm trying to do too many things at once! Check the cables: take the one that is plugged in to the computer that does NOT connect, and switch it with the one that does. Then see if you can still connect: if you can't, that cable is no good. If you can, then we aren't done yet........

[DECODER22]

lol the cable on the seconf comp is 100 feet thru the floors of my hosue ok this is how my router is set up it goes modem to router and then 1 port on router to my comp and i ran a cable form 2nd port to that comp downstairs

[DECODER22]

do i need to configure my router cause the lights arent on for 2nd port

[rogerdugans]

It may just be that the cable is bad: you should get the other pc right next to the router until you get it set up right, and then try it downstairs!

And sorry, bud, but I am just about exhausted now, and I still have some work to do before I get to sleep!

If you still haven't gotten it, I'll be around tomorrow night.

Good Luck!

[DECODER22]

no dont leave i sjut dont think i ahve the win98 TCP/IP set right i think thats the prob

[rogerdugans]

If you are using dhcp, then tcp/ip is good.

If you don't get hub link light, or a link light on the network card either your cable or nic are bad.

Try pinging the router: at a command prompt, type this:

ping 192.168.1.1

and then hit enter. You should get 4 lines of text, with the ip addres, and how long it takes to get there.

If you don't get that, it is a hardware problem.

Websites fixed. Gotta get up early, going to bad. Good Luck!

[DECODER22]

hey man guess what i took the cable i was using for the 2nd pc and hooked up to mine to see if the cable worked the cable is bad can u belive that bs man im taking all 400ft back i wonder is it maybe cause it is cat 5E