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Henry Rollins II
02-03-02, 07:03 PM
Yo all

Iīm thinking about getting a water cooled case. Koolance would be the easy way to go, but I donīt like their cases. I would like to build around a Lian-Li case. Does anybody know of any links that describe water cooling projects in Lian-Li cases?

regards,
Henry.

ken257
02-03-02, 07:16 PM
I have seen Lian-Li cases with water cooling but when asked where I draw a blank! I do agree that the Coolance cases are not the best and you can set up a much better water cooler on your own.

What watercooling parts are you thinking of getting? Can you either post a pic of the inards of the case or a link to it so I can check it out maybe I can give some recomendations on components/location based on what the case looks like.

Henry Rollins II
02-03-02, 09:36 PM
Havenīt decided exactly which Lian-Li case yet; but it will be the PC-60 or PC-70(or one of its versions). Found a few inside shots, look:
PC-75 fulltower
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc7x/pc75220.jpg
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/revimages/CA-LLPC12B_6.jpg
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc70/inside160.jpg

PC-65 midtower
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/revimages/CA-LLPC65*_11.gif
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/revimages/CA-LLPC60_2.jpg

PC-76 Server case -monster size
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc76/pc76220.jpg
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc76/back180.jpg
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc76/inside220.jpg

(PC-76 might be a bit big though. Rather expensive too.)

regards,
Henry.

ken257
02-03-02, 09:43 PM
That PC-76 case looks mighty nice! Plenty of room for water cooling equipment. I like cases with lots of room. One thing I look for is a case that has enough room above the power supply to add a radiator because I prefer that location instead on the lower front. It will work in the mid tower but you may loose a few drive bays.

Trieber
02-03-02, 10:06 PM
I would say the 76... but doesn't that case cost like over $350?

If not, the 70 might be acceptable. A Midtower might be a little tight, you might not have enough room to mod anything or enough room to work with.. I always think bigger is better.

fuzzba11
02-03-02, 10:13 PM
Somebody made an awesome integration into a PC-70, although the 76 would probably an even better specimen.

Henry Rollins II
02-03-02, 10:39 PM
Yah...the PC-76 might be a bit too expensive. About $320 on sale + about $100 freight...:(

In terms of water cooling equipment I was thinking:
Black Ice radiator with one Papst 120mm fan, Dangerden Maze2, Eheim 1046 with water tank. What about that?
http://www.gtek.net/produkt/vatten/ehtank2.jpg
Water tank.

I will replace the chipset fan with a large heatsink, and propably i will get a vga water cooler as well.

Problem about dis: The price is now way beyond even the Antec case Koolance....

regards,
Henry.

ken257
02-03-02, 11:02 PM
Do you have to go with the Lian-Li for the look? I have a pair of Inwin Q500 cases moded for water cooling and they have worked out very nice, plenty of room in the full tower. Antec makes some nice cases a full tower cases to and one should suit your needs perfect. With a nice roomy case you can mount all the cooling equipment out of the way. One problem with jamming stuff in a small case is that you loose space and may have hoses/wires running over the area where the PCI slots are making it a pain to work on the machine later. Whatever brand you choose do yourself a favor and get a case with plenty of room.

FrozenInHI
02-04-02, 03:45 AM
https://www.overclockershideout.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=o&Product_Code=HSPX&Category_Code=WC

check that one out!

Trieber
02-04-02, 05:01 PM
Ouch! $500? Dang.. thats hurts... unless you have a bunch to blow in the first place...

2 WC Systems? In a 70 that seems cramped.. 1 is comfortable? But 2? I'm thinking a pump, reservoir, and radiator fan combo for each system, that is alot of equipment to fit into 1 case no matter how big it is.. Dunno if you could fit much more in there...

Oh well, if you get it, post about it.

Henry Rollins II
02-05-02, 11:45 PM
Nah I donīt know if it has to be Lian-Li, they are very stylish though and that matters since I was thinking of having it on the desk rather than under it. Soft neon tubs in aqua blue, maybe paired with a slightly smaller red one. In addition to to this an UV-neon tube, hopefully paired with a flourecent addition to the cooling liquid. A 2-bay height VFD display. And finally all in beuty black.


Whatchu think of that? A work art, a lavalamp-lookalike or trailor park heaven? :D

regards,
Henry.

Colin
02-06-02, 12:20 AM
Take a look here here (http://www.l33tpeeps.com/caffeine/article_caffeine.htm) for some watercooled PC60 sweetness. :D

Voodoo Rufus
02-06-02, 01:17 AM
That case looks pretty clean.

Lian li cases are nice, and it would be really cool to water cool in one of them.

It's doable. On the PC-70 you could put a 120mm back radiator, like a Blackice or a Cube fairly easily.

meatpipe
02-06-02, 06:07 AM
Henry-
Where'd you find that nice Eheim with the tank ?? Looks perfect for my new project!!!
:D

Henry Rollins II
02-06-02, 08:47 AM
Yah man - thatīs what Iīm talking about! Black lights too!

The water tank is made by Innovatek: http://www.innovatek.de

regards,
Henry

meatpipe
02-06-02, 08:33 PM
Yo Henry-
Just ordered the Lian PC 70 to replace my Antec 1040B. Gonna mount the radiator up top this time around and just got my Eheim 1250, and gonna mount that down at the bottom. Just got a box'o stuff to go to 1/2" from 3/8" on the H2O unit. Got me a DD Maze 2-1, a CPUFX Z4, and a DD GeForce cooler, all with 1/2" barbs. Let's see what works best.....

Voodoo Rufus
02-06-02, 08:40 PM
You should have a nice setup once you're done. Good parts.

phiber
02-06-02, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Trieber
Ouch! $500? Dang.. thats hurts... unless you have a bunch to blow in the first place...

2 WC Systems? In a 70 that seems cramped.. 1 is comfortable? But 2? I'm thinking a pump, reservoir, and radiator fan combo for each system, that is alot of equipment to fit into 1 case no matter how big it is.. Dunno if you could fit much more in there...

Oh well, if you get it, post about it.
i have a pc70 and i doubt 2 WC systems will fit without heavy mods...

Henry Rollins II
02-06-02, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by meatpipe
Yo Henry-
Just ordered the Lian PC 70 to replace my Antec 1040B. Gonna mount the radiator up top this time around and just got my Eheim 1250, and gonna mount that down at the bottom. Just got a box'o stuff to go to 1/2" from 3/8" on the H2O unit. Got me a DD Maze 2-1, a CPUFX Z4, and a DD GeForce cooler, all with 1/2" barbs. Let's see what works best.....

Way to go! If you have a digital camera post some shots of when you are done. :drool: :D

regards,
Henry

DodgeViper
02-06-02, 10:31 PM
Save yourself some money. This is the same rad Danger Den sales. I found it at Checker Auto. Its from a Chevy Chevette 1976-1986. I modded the tubes and now working on the shrouds front and back.

DodgeViper
02-06-02, 10:36 PM
This is crappy's rig. It's a Lian Li case.http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=367351

Voodoo Rufus
02-06-02, 10:37 PM
Heater cores work well, but they are sometimes hard to mount and look clean I think. If you're gonna blow a few hundred on a case and cooling system, I say go for a PC radiator that already has drilled mounts. It'll look good and cool nearly or as well as a heater core.

Voodoo Rufus
02-06-02, 10:39 PM
That setup looks pretty good, viper, but it looks a little cramped. And where did the hard drives go?

meatpipe
02-07-02, 04:47 AM
That's the PC 60- a middie tower. I already own the heater core, and it looks like it'll fit with no problems in the taller PC 70.

Sonny
02-07-02, 08:50 AM
The PC 70 has a lot of space.

http://www.wjasp.com.tw/upload/a0000010/en_US/spec_374.jpg

You can mount the rad on the bottom & move the HDD Rack to were the drive bays are or use a Mobile Rack (http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPrd&pcid=33) to mount them;

http://www.wjasp.com.tw/upload/a0000010/en_US/prd_398.jpg

meatpipe
02-07-02, 08:57 AM
Good idea Sonny- I use the trays alot with IDE stuff- I might just get a couple for my SCSI raid setup.

Sonny
02-07-02, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by meatpipe
...my SCSI raid setup.
http://graphics.adaptec.com/asr3410s.jpg




Edit Now I got it right

Voodoo Rufus
02-07-02, 11:01 AM
That's not a RAID card, sonny. But it's still nice.

Here's a RAID card:

http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/popupimage.html?imageGif=board_ASR-3410S.jpg&imageHeight=314&imageWidth=640

meatpipe
02-07-02, 07:55 PM
No product pics-but here's the specs ripped from Hewlett Packard:
It's made by AMI with a HP bios and 128 meg cache sdram module on the card. It's the same size as my GeForce3, and retails for about $1200. I found it laying around..... :) It overclocks great as it's designed to run @ 66 mhz. Anyway-my parts are here (BIG overnight shipping bill!) gotta fire up the dremel...

hp NetRAID-2M controller
RAID levels 0, 1, 5, 10, and 50
SCSI channels two
drives supported up to 28 total (14 per channel)
SCSI bus type single-ended or LVD
SCSI data
transfer rate fast, Ultra, Ultra2, Ultra3
card size 6.875" x 4.2" (half-length PCI)
multiple cards up to six hp NetRAID family cards
per system
bus type 64-bit PCI 2.1 (32-bit compatible), 66MHz
bus data
transfer rate up to 512MB/sec
processor Intel i960RN at 100Mhz
cache size 64 or 128MB SDRAM
battery backup standard, protects up to 72 hours
array configuration utility
hp NetRAID Assistant (NRA) for Microsoft Windows or hp NetRAID configuration for NetWare, UnixWare, SCO OpenServer,
and DOS

Voodoo Rufus
02-07-02, 07:57 PM
NNNNiiiiiiccccceeeeee. Stick that in an AMD 760MPX board and you be rippin'!!

:beer:

meatpipe
02-07-02, 08:01 PM
Yep---ready for that also. I wanted the Tyan-but it's 64 bit PCI slots are only 32 bit in reality..bummer .

Voodoo Rufus
02-07-02, 08:29 PM
I don't think they're 32 bit slots. Look at the motherboard. They are definitely 64 bit slots

meatpipe
02-07-02, 09:27 PM
Sorry 'bout that comment Voodoo, they are 64 bit but 33mhz on the Thunder K7, BUT the new MPX is true 66mhz, 64 bit !!
The web site says "now available" !!
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/athlon.html

Damn-I'm gonna overheat this credit card!!!

customrig
02-07-02, 09:30 PM
i have one but i have not yet tried water cooling will let you know when i do

Voodoo Rufus
02-07-02, 09:38 PM
Yes, I know. I thought that you were mistaken. 64/66 slots are nice. Except you need about 6 15K SCSI drives in RAID 0 or 5 to saturate the bus though. That's a lot of throughput.