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Povar81
05-02-10, 10:14 AM
Please help!
Cannot find a decent guide on the topic anywhere!
I only need to run conker: live and reloaded game on my pc.
It's a 2005 game, so I believe it can be emulated and it's for xbox not xbox 360.
I tried both emulators but once again I don't know how to do it right.
Thank you for any help.

Twigglish
05-02-10, 10:20 AM
Which emulators are "both"?
As far as I know, Xeon is the best one out, but I've never used any of them.

Povar81
05-02-10, 10:53 AM
I mean cxbx and xeon.
Neither one worked for the game though.

FudgeNuggets
05-02-10, 12:19 PM
Seems a lot of people arent reading the rules these days.

This cant be discussed here.

However, if you have a 360 then you should be able to play the game without issue.

Povar81
05-02-10, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't know exactly where to discuss it.
Unfortunately, I don't have any console right now, I'd like to run the game on my pc.

sandyduff
05-02-10, 01:54 PM
I would just google it...

Since Emulation is slightly illegal, it is not allowed to be discussed on these forums...

Twigglish
05-02-10, 02:29 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, discussing an emulator is not forbidden. Emulation is not illegal. ROMs of copyright games are illegal.
When he noted that he doesn't own the things needed to play the game, then it became forbidden.

sandyduff
05-02-10, 02:35 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, discussing an emulator is not forbidden. Emulation is not illegal. ROMs of copyright games are illegal.
When he noted that he doesn't own the things needed to play the game, then it became forbidden.

I thought ripping the bios needed for the emulator is illegal?

Niku-Sama
05-03-10, 05:50 AM
thats still part of the game, he has the game he should be able to get the bios off of his disc. but yea emulation is not illegal.
is ripping the bios off a legitimatly owned game illegal though?

althought i would check your local craigslist and see if a cheap x-box is available, old ones go for pretty cheap now, that is if you can find an ad that isnt a scammer in your area. might be worth it to not have to hassle with the emulators.

most emulators much beyond SNES give me trouble. ahh the days of bleem, man that was a disaster.

TollhouseFrank
05-04-10, 10:34 AM
emulation, as others have said, is not illegal. Technically, since we are allowed (in the US, at least) to make archival copies of software we purchase, ROMS aren't illegal either.

However, from what I understand of US law, and this is the 'grey' area which makes more than a cursory discussion of it off-limits, with software, once it is declared abandonware/licenses expire/no longer made/sold by the company that wrote it, then it is 'open season' upon said software and emulation thereof.

However, the list of softwares with expired licenses or software declared 'abandonware' isn't exactly large...

Twigglish
05-04-10, 12:22 PM
Sorry, I meant the discussion of downloading and sharing ROMs. Should have been more precise.

whooping_a_panda
05-04-10, 01:28 PM
emulation, as others have said, is not illegal. Technically, since we are allowed (in the US, at least) to make archival copies of software we purchase, ROMS aren't illegal either.

However, from what I understand of US law, and this is the 'grey' area which makes more than a cursory discussion of it off-limits, with software, once it is declared abandonware/licenses expire/no longer made/sold by the company that wrote it, then it is 'open season' upon said software and emulation thereof.

However, the list of softwares with expired licenses or software declared 'abandonware' isn't exactly large...

popular misconception is when something becomes unpublished/sold/supported it becomes free game.

Abandonware is not legal as long as long as the copyright is in effect, which in US law lasts way too long, but that's another discussion. Now the misconception comes from most copyright holders not caring enough to press the matter at that point, but this still does not make it legal.

A good example of this would be Halo PC. Microsoft no longer supports, prints, or sells this game, by definition it is abandonware. Any copies you can still find are left overs from 2008ish when it ran out of print. But it's a good bet microsoft still makes money off the ip rights and would be damned to let anyone steal it.
Often the availability of abandonware on the Internet is related to the willingness of copyright holders to defend their copyrights. For example, unencumbered games for Colecovision are markedly easier to find on the Internet than unencumbered games for Mattel Intellivision in large part because there is still a company that makes money by selling Intellivision games while no such company exists for the Colecovision.

as to the question regarding the bios required in some emulation this is also illegal to download. The bios is not part of the game disc but rather the hardware, now if you owned a console and could perform a rom dump of the bios chip yourself you would probably be in the clear by the backup rule of software... but its all a grey area and best left discussed elsewhere.

ratbuddy
05-04-10, 01:32 PM
I wish Microsoft would start selling a software package or even add-in PCI board that would allow original Xbox games to be played on a PC. I have about 30 games and the console itself has long since been packed away in a closet.

Niku-Sama
05-04-10, 05:05 PM
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However, the list of softwares with expired licenses or software declared 'abandonware' isn't exactly large...

its probably larger than we know but isnt a well documented sort of thing

insanemonkey
05-05-10, 10:03 AM
It is my understanding that it is legal as long as you own the console and the game.