I eally like boards to come with a soundcard so I can throw it into the junk pile and instead use something decent. i really like boards that do come with these as they allow for proper proper spacing with sli and a videocard. I hate when the videocard is intended to be in the top slot and covers a perfectly good space for a soundcard! Plus an integrated device I'll never use I just find annoying. I believe a motherboard layout should be like x1,x16,another 3 or 2 slots down another x16.