Intel pricing

[Henry Rollins II]

Can anybody tell me why P3 cpus cost so much
Dont they get whooped by Durons at the same speed?

regards,
Henry

[Bonka]

The prices for the PIII's are high b/c Intel wants consumers to buy their top of the line, P4 chips instead.

[Henry Rollins II]

Originally posted by Bonka
The prices for the PIII's are high b/c Intel wants consumers to buy their top of the line, P4 chips instead.

Which is just a trick, because the P3 is better than the P4.

regards,
Henry.

[Pecos]

Outside of memory bandwith, of course!

[Overclocker550]

Originally posted by Henry Rollins II


Which is just a trick, because the P3 is better than the P4.

regards,
Henry.

even the athlons are better and also cheaper than a p3 but less overclockable

[rogerdugans]

A few things I wonder about:

PIII more ocable than Athlon? I have a TBird 1000@1400 and my dual PIII has a best of 1000@1150.

PIII better than a P4? In ways I can see this, but I think that it is related to the architecture change and that P4 has proven that in ways it is already superior to the PIII. Although I do not have one, so that is second-hand info.

PIII vs Duron: the Duron is another chip I have little knowledge of: built one for a friend, but never benched it in comparison.

But, to follow a slightly conoluted train of thought: Athlon TBird and XP are better than Durons, right? The fastest system I have is my dual PIII at 1000(right now-damaged mobo), and I have a Tbird 1000@1400 and an XP 1800(1533@1670). So wouldn't that make an argument in favor of the PIII? It is a duallie which may be the only reason, I guess.

I think the most accurate statement on this is Bonka's point concerning Intel's P4 strategy: get people to buy the newer chip, and get it out in the market.

[]-[itman]

I would say that the p3's are faster than the durons. You have to remember that even though the p3's are "older" the durons are AMD's budget chip. As far as p3's versus p4's the p3's i believe are faster clock/clock but when the p4's get to 2ghz and the p3's are stuck at 1.2 or so then the p4 will win. Now i just really started to get into the Intel thing so i may be wrong but this is the way i understand it.

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by ]-[itman
I would say that the p3's are faster than the durons. You have to remember that even though the p3's are "older" the durons are AMD's budget chip. As far as p3's versus p4's the p3's i believe are faster clock/clock but when the p4's get to 2ghz and the p3's are stuck at 1.2 or so then the p4 will win. Now i just really started to get into the Intel thing so i may be wrong but this is the way i understand it.

The new Northwood P4's are already being released at 2.2GHz. The P3 Tuallies are planned to reach at least to 1.4GHz.

As far as Durons being faster than an equally clocked P3... I've never actually benched one against the other but I'd have to see it to believe it... as ]-[itman said, the Duron is AMD's budget chip, and the P3 is not Intel's budget chip.

[Overclocker550]

I thought intel phased off the p3s, after all I dont see them in stores anymore, just p4 or celeron

[jazztrumpet216]

Originally posted by Overclocker550
I thought intel phased off the p3s, after all I dont see them in stores anymore, just p4 or celeron

Oh yes they do. They market the Celeron and the P4 much more intensively, but they do The P3 is still available in the Tualatin format with either 256k or 512k caches, and come in speeds of 1.13, 1.2, 1.26 GHz, and are planned to hit at least 1.4. Ol' man has one... check around the Intel CPUs area for details.

[Overclocker550]

you are right, but only in notebooks. I never saw one in a desktop at a store

[jazztrumpet216]

Ol' man's is not in a notebook, it's in an Abit ST6..

EDIT: Here's (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=65056) a link to one of his newer threads on this processor.

[Henry Rollins II]

Yeah you are right, a local supplier also have the P3 1.4 Ghz for pre-ordering. It will propably beat most P4´s easily.

regards,
Henry