View Full Version : Does anything really top the 800D for WC?
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 01:04 PM
I'm using an Lanboy Air at the moment, and it is a fine case but the issues pertaining to water cooling with it are going to be a problem in the future. I've still got another forty days or so to return it, and if I figure out a good setup for liquid cooling by then then there is a pretty good chance I will. Obviously if I am going to get the most use out of what I have currently and plan on adding in the future then I need to go with a liquid solution. So that is why I am asking if there is really any case out there that tops the 800D in terms of liquid cooling.
EarthDog
12-01-10, 01:04 PM
That HAF-X has a little less room but superior airflow...Im also selling a HAF-X in the classifieds section for dirt cheap. ;)
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 01:09 PM
Haha, you tempt me my good sir.
I am being kind of lazy though because if I was going to buy a new case I'd have to completely disassemble the top of the Lanboy.
PROTIP: The Noctua DH-14 does not play nice with that case, I actually got the F'ing heatsink stuck due to poor planning.
m0r7if3r
12-01-10, 01:10 PM
mountain mods and danger den cases are specifically designed to be watercooled and are super easy to work with...they're also expensive.
Grosjambon
12-01-10, 01:12 PM
you can make your own wood case,
Flexibility, upgradility and etc. Future proof :D trust me.
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 01:13 PM
you can make your own wood case,
Flexibility, upgradility and etc. Future proof :D trust me.
And excellent way to destroy sensitive data. THROW IT IN THE FIRE PLACE, QUICK!
Grosjambon
12-01-10, 01:17 PM
Nah, it doesnt take fire, i have 2 wood case serving me well.
The one in the picture cost me 40$ and can host up to 6 mcr 320 rad. and ton of fan, u can cut fan hole anywhere u want. :D
SeanOMatic
12-01-10, 05:19 PM
The HAF 932 will save you over $100 and allow the same watercooling configurations. It also has way better airflow, which is actually quite important when you're watercooling, as your mosfets and other motherboard-based components won't be cooled as well with the 800D.
Corsair 800D actually has weak cooling performance when it comes to air movement/flow, but it's a beautiful case that is easy to work with. However, it's lack of airflow will be of detriment.
I'd save money, go with a HAF 932 or HAF-X and you can use the money saved on the difference between the 932 and 800D on one of these bad boys to get you started on watercooling:
http://www.xspc.biz/rasa750rs240kit.php
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 05:32 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Sean. In this case money isn't really an issue, but I do appreciate saving it.
Now all I need to do is figure out exactly what I need to get this thing going.
SeanOMatic
12-01-10, 05:51 PM
I'm using an Lanboy Air at the moment, and it is a fine case but the issues pertaining to water cooling with it are going to be a problem in the future. I've still got another forty days or so to return it, and if I figure out a good setup for liquid cooling by then then there is a pretty good chance I will. Obviously if I am going to get the most use out of what I have currently and plan on adding in the future then I need to go with a liquid solution. So that is why I am asking if there is really any case out there that tops the 800D in terms of liquid cooling.
Where did you get your Ibis?
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 05:56 PM
Newegg.
She works like a beauty, but getting her to work in the first place was a nightmare.
Conumdrum
12-01-10, 06:07 PM
The problem with watercooliing is it takes lots of space if your going to have a HOT CPU and more than one modern top of the line GPU. Then it's always more than one rad, and getting it to all fit can be very difficult. Thats where the special cases like Danger Den and MM come into play.
Cases last pretty much forever. So spending the extra money works pretty well.
The 800D holds a 120x3 and a 120x2 at the bottom with some modding work. That amount of rad is usually fine for a CPU 2xGPU setup. Unless you need uber overclocks and super quiet, it's a good case. Still can't beat a case that will easily hold a 140x3 rad or more.
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 07:41 PM
Alright Conumdrum. If you were going to recommend or suggest a Mountain Mods/Danger Den case which one would you say?
m0r7if3r
12-01-10, 07:47 PM
Well...I'm not con, but that all depends on your personal needs, the CYO's are all very flexible and quite nice, check em out...for dangerden, personally, I like the look of the doublewide.
SeanOMatic
12-01-10, 07:50 PM
Alright Conumdrum. If you were going to recommend or suggest a Mountain Mods/Danger Den case which one would you say?
Don't go so expensive on those cases, as you're new to watercooling.
The 800D is plenty enough, as will be a HAF 932. I know cost isn't a issue, but being practical is a good thing.
You can easily run three radiators (3 would be easily achieved if you mount a radiator on the lower side intake in place of the 220MM fan. Then you can still mount a 360MM up top and do an external 240 or 360MM off of the rear exhaust fan.
Plan on watercooling your GPU, or just CPU?
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 07:59 PM
I was really just curious in his opinion as I don't like the look of any of their cases, haha.
And while I may be new, to be honest this was my first build but I pulled it off without a hitch outside of the IBIS troubles. This could have potentially been easier had I bought a different case but hindsight is 20/20.
If I had a different Mobo I would WC everything, but seeing as how the Big Bang X-Power doesn't have any chipset, or full board or mosfet blocks that limits my options a tad. I plan on doing the CPU and the two 580's (getting the second one soon). I honestly wish that I had more PCI-E slots but of course I cannot return the Big Bang (limited replacement policy). It'd be nice to WC my entire board but again... no one makes any blocks for the Big Bang. Kind of disappointed in Danger Den and EK about that, but my fault for not doing enough planning.
Grosjambon
12-01-10, 09:00 PM
anyway cooling mobo is totaly uncessary, the extra 100$ put it into good fan :D
SeanOMatic
12-01-10, 09:25 PM
anyway cooling mobo is totaly uncessary, the extra 100$ put it into good fan :D
Cooling the motherboard/mosfets is entirely necessary. Many people who watercool seem to think the CPU is the only thing that puts off heat. Your VRM's can run really hot and without good airflow and cooling of the mosfets, well, we all know what too much heat can do.
Watercooling the NB and mosfets isn't necessary, but cooling them with decent airflow/active cooling is a must, trust that.
D33PJackal
12-01-10, 10:09 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how to best cool the Mosfets on this thing. The temps on them is twenty Celsius higher than my CPU and my GPU, but it seems like this is normal for the Big Bang.
m0r7if3r
12-01-10, 10:19 PM
Yea, the fets on that thing run hot. you could always get some of those enzotech sinks or something...but honestly I think they're designed to run hot.
just get the 800D and be done with it. it will save you time
Grosjambon
12-02-10, 08:34 AM
Cooling the motherboard/mosfets is entirely necessary. Many people who watercool seem to think the CPU is the only thing that puts off heat. Your VRM's can run really hot and without good airflow and cooling of the mosfets, well, we all know what too much heat can do.
Watercooling the NB and mosfets isn't necessary, but cooling them with decent airflow/active cooling is a must, trust that.
Geez, i was meaning **cooling** as watercooling....
SeanOMatic
12-02-10, 03:25 PM
Geez, i was meaning **cooling** as watercooling....
It's kind of hard to understand you.
muddocktor
12-02-10, 03:46 PM
I'm an owner of a U2-UFO case (for around 2 years now) and I will tell you a few pluses and minuses for it. On the plus side, it is fantastic for watercooling with tons of room to run the loop and mount the pump and such. And I am set up with a PA120.3 on the front and a Bonnie heater core on the back side and the QX9650 system I presently have in it runs at 4.0 for 24/7/365 clocks and while running Boinc/Rosetta the hottest core barely breaks the low to mid 40's. The GPU is also in the loop too, but since Rosetta doesn't do GPU compute it's not adding a bunch of heat into the loop most of the time. The design is basically a big square box and you either like them or dislike the looks of them, but they are damned effective. And the Ascension models are even taller and you have room for even more raddage in them than the U-2 series. It is also a very well built case and is modular, so it is relatively easy to add on to them also. My 2 biggest gripes with my MM case is that it cost a hell lot of money (but really not that much more than the Corsair 800 I believe) and the fact that MM still to this day doesn't offer an option for front mounted USB ports or audio jacks, which is really stupid IMO. Hell, DangerDen is offering that with their big cube case and also sells the front panel header separately, so I just ordered one to mod into a blank 5 1/4 plate on my case. But it's still a poor show that they don't modernize their cases to at least offer this as an option, because even the cheapo cases nowadays have USB posts and an audio header on the front or side.:rolleyes:
BTW, MM does make some more conventional offerings too that still give you plenty of room to mount multiple rads.
deadlysyn
12-02-10, 03:50 PM
It's kind of hard to understand you.
I believe he is from a primarily French area of Canada, so his English isn't likely to be perfect.:)
SeanOMatic
12-02-10, 03:59 PM
I believe he is from a primarily French area of Canada, so his English isn't likely to be perfect.:)
I know.
;)
Aphex_Tom_9
12-02-10, 04:18 PM
I recently took advantage of this:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330778
700D on sale for cheap (and there's a $40 mail-in rebate from corsair, but it's only good until dec 5th)
700D is pretty much the same case as the 800D, minus the hot-swappable HD bay (which I don't care about anyway) and the side-panel window, which micro-center will give you for free if you ask for it.
800D minus the special HD bay (i'm calling it the 750D) for $140 after MIR and before tax, you can't say no to that.
jmccann
12-02-10, 05:17 PM
Something Iv been considering for watercooling my system is to get a mountain mods pedestal. That way i can keep putting my same case (HaF 922, the midsized not full) to use. They have 9" wide and 18" wide, my case is 9" wide on the dot. Unfortunately the length of my case is right in between the 18 and 24 inch they offer.
Having the lanboy air though... well its all in the name i guess,, air.. /sends motivational waves to gut and return it for corsairs 800d with a mountain mods 9x24 pedestal for more raddage/
I couldnt bear that price for a computer case myself, but its somewhat awe inspiring thinking someone else might >>
I've been looking for a new case myself, torn with the same desicion, the 800D vs other stuff, but lately the old classic, the silverstone TJ07 is also up there on my list.
its a beautiful and solid case, it can hold a 120.4 in the bottom and 120.2 up top. but after all this time, its still more expensive than the 800D, and cable management seems to be better on the 800D as well.
m0r7if3r
12-02-10, 09:15 PM
Something Iv been considering for watercooling my system is to get a mountain mods pedestal. That way i can keep putting my same case (HaF 922, the midsized not full) to use. They have 9" wide and 18" wide, my case is 9" wide on the dot. Unfortunately the length of my case is right in between the 18 and 24 inch they offer.
Having the lanboy air though... well its all in the name i guess,, air.. /sends motivational waves to gut and return it for corsairs 800d with a mountain mods 9x24 pedestal for more raddage/
I couldnt bear that price for a computer case myself, but its somewhat awe inspiring thinking someone else might >>
pedastal is designed to work with MM cases and no others...you might want to contact them before you break out your wallet, they can probably work with you.
bhk7594
12-03-10, 07:21 AM
I know Jeremy at DD is really good at working with people. This is one instance where I know a bit. I first ordered a MM case. Worst choice ever. It was made poorly and was warping my MOBO. Returned it and moved onto DD case (double wide :)). Best choice ever. When they make that case they think about everything and its beautiful. Dish out da cash and get a double wide I love mine!
the 800D can be modded for excellent airflow,
you pay for what you get, in terms of quality the case is built to last the years
Conumdrum
05-27-11, 03:43 PM
Holy thread revival!
dealmaster
05-27-11, 04:01 PM
No love in here for the Cosmos S? For shame, ocf!
snowbrdd
05-27-11, 04:04 PM
Devil's watercooling case. Done.
No love in here for the Cosmos S? For shame, ocf!
no...
this
http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-double-wide-tower-21-black-series-edition.html
my 800d still tops ones of the best out there :), i just cant stop looking at it
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O18Es6C5N-0/TeAijMBpbqI/AAAAAAAAREw/WZ9nReChXIQ/s1024/2011-05-27%25252018.11.57.jpg
TechtonicPC
05-27-11, 08:48 PM
I love my 800D. It's just about perfect.
Vortaku
05-27-11, 10:49 PM
I love my 800d, i cant wait to get everything installed when i am done modifying it!
dealmaster
05-28-11, 11:13 AM
no...
this
http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-double-wide-tower-21-black-series-edition.html
I'll take the case that holds everything I need for half the price of that one, thanks very much!
I'll take the case that holds everything I need for half the price of that one, thanks very much!
it says $379.99. you can pick up a corsair 800d for $279.99
dealmaster
05-28-11, 04:33 PM
They're both great cases, I just don't know what is better about the 800D functionality-wise compared with the Cosmos S, which I got for $200.
800d is built like a tank
Daemonkin
05-28-11, 05:50 PM
I'll take the case that holds everything I need for half the price of that one, thanks very much!
Using the CYO picker you can get a U2 UFO for the price of an 800D.
Standard Front
Top and both sides one piece acrylic (clear in color).
Standard Rear
Brushed Aluminum
Has more room, for the same price tag. :clap:
Vortaku
05-28-11, 08:38 PM
Using the CYO picker you can get a U2 UFO for the price of an 800D.
Standard Front
Top and both sides one piece acrylic (clear in color).
Standard Rear
Brushed Aluminum
Has more room, for the same price tag. :clap:
I looked at this before i got the killer deal on my 800d, but i just hate the shape of all of them
Daemonkin
05-28-11, 10:30 PM
Really? I love my UFO! Greatest case I ever used in a build with the horizontally mounted mb.
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