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stratcatprowlin
12-25-10, 03:01 AM
I took some power from f@h to spread around about an hour ago.This looks like a good project.
You'll see my name up on the stats as soon as my work gets passed on and done.
Peace:)

Bobnova
12-25-10, 09:09 AM
Woot! Welcome to the team and thanks for the CPU power :rock:

stratcatprowlin
12-25-10, 09:18 AM
Thank you Bobnova.
Is there an optimized client on this like Seti?What are the variations in the wu's/points given?Seems like they are mostly the same.
Just for comparison though I've seen double the amount of ram used to crunch these wu's compared to f@h.I have enough to spare though so that's ok though.:)My quad is using up to 3 gigs of memory out of 8 and my dually uses up to 2 gigs out of 4 so far that I have seen.Pretty cool.I never use that much anyway so I hope the having extra helps me complee them faster.Takes about 3 hours per wu it seems so far.

Bobnova
12-25-10, 11:03 AM
Not really any optimizations, just crank the CPU speed and go :D
By and large the WUs are about the same value, sometimes you get lucky and your cpu finds some tasty protein shape and gets a big ole bonus, other times it twists it into a pretzel and gets less points then usual.

The biggest difference really is that you can set how long you work on a given WU.
On the rosetta@home preferences web page (not in the boinc client) there is a setting for WU length. It goes in two hour increments, so you can plow through them at two hours per WU, or spend a longer time chewing on them.
Points seem to mostly be based on the amount of work done, so one 4 hour unit is roughly equal to two two hour units.
I like the two hour units as they use less ram then the four or more hour units.
The longer the WU the more likely you either find something good and get a bonus or find absolutely nothing and get less points, it all averages out decently though.

Every once in a while you'll get a unit that resists calculation, gives an ETA of 24+ hours and uses 1.8gb of ram. You can cancel it without facing being branded as a criminal, it's like the broken FAH units.

muddocktor
12-25-10, 07:08 PM
Bob, where do you set the preferences for wu size at? I didn't know that this could be done. :eek:

I've looked at the preferences on the rosetta site and see no settings for wu size or length. I always get stuck with these humongous work units that take a day to crunch and use ungodly amounts of ram.

stratcatprowlin
12-25-10, 08:57 PM
Your account,Resource share and graphics,Target CPU run time.
Set it from 3 hours "default" to whatever you like.I was reading the forums over there and they are thinking of making 6 hours default I think to help the science though.Even if they do you will still be allowed to change that parameter if needed as are now in the future.

Bobnova
12-25-10, 09:53 PM
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=project

Then "Edit Rosetta@home Preferences", then "Target CPU Run Time".
Be aware that if you like 3 hours you cannot get it back if you select a different time.

stratcatprowlin
12-25-10, 11:26 PM
Can I do this without Boinc? idon't like boinc very much:/

Bobnova
12-26-10, 12:47 AM
Sadly no, rosetta is a boinc-only sort of operation.
What is it you dislike about boinc? Maybe we can help fix it so it doesn't annoy you.

stratcatprowlin
12-26-10, 02:07 AM
Funny I remember when I first started on it back a few years ago they had their own client.I guess not anymore.Anyhow no matter what I do i can't get Boinc to change my cpu usage settings or maximum processors per machine.I set it and save it and update the boinc client to receive the changes and it just keeps using all cores available and maximum cpu usage.I have restarted boinc,rebooted the machines with no luck:/

Bobnova
12-26-10, 08:51 AM
I haven't had much luck with setting that anywhere but in the client itself.
In the client it's always worked great.

drshivas
12-26-10, 11:56 AM
Welcome to the team, stratcatprowlin! :welcome:

And you know, I didn't know about the target CPU time feature either. This is just what I need for my work rig. Sometimes I get four hungry WUs that eat too much RAM, and I have to turn off cores.

As for BOINC, I love it, because it's set it and forget it. You don't have to babysit BOINC like the FAH clients.

baditude_df
12-27-10, 12:13 AM
Yo Cat! Welcome to the team. :welcome:

Very glad to have another blue with us! Looks like we're all learning something new already with you being here. groovy :cool:

drshivas
12-27-10, 09:17 AM
...Looks like we're all learning something new already with you being here. groovy :cool:

Very True. I made a seperate preference set for "Work" and applied this Target CPU time to it, then added the computer under "Work" preferences. After my current cache of WUs clear out, I should get the smaller ones at my work machine.

I didn't kow BOINC was this smart, and I didn't know you could manage the computers from online as well, even set default preferences online and have them apply to all clients. Since I am happy with BOINC at default, I'll slowly tiptoe into this new realm of preferences.

Thanks Bob and Cat for the lead on this!

bmwbaxter
12-28-10, 03:59 PM
I didn't kow BOINC was this smart, and I didn't know you could manage the computers from online as well, even set default preferences online and have them apply to all clients.

i have been using BAM! to set my preferences and they always go back to default for some reason. since most of my machines are fire and forget i just stick with them. but my sig rig i had to set up the preferences from the client itself.

muddocktor
12-31-10, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the help on that Bob and Stratcat. :thup: I just changed my preferences to 6 hours from where it was at. Those 1 day long work units sure do eat up some ram.

stratcatprowlin
12-31-10, 09:09 PM
No problem.I don't like big wu's because I see it like there is more time for something to go wrong.I get nervous about wu's lasting longer than 1 day for some reason.Even though I never really turn in any bad wu's.Oh well :shrug: