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Jolly-Swagman
01-19-11, 10:54 AM
Making VGA-Dummy Plugs
By Jolly-Swagman
When running Multiple GPU's in one System, especially in Vista or Win 7 you need to have
extra Monitors hooked up to the GPU's in order to have them GPU- Folding@home
Now if you Dont have extra Monitors connected to the GPU's another way is to Fool the OS in thinking there is one there.
Now the way to do this is via a VGA Dummy Plug, connected to the GPU via a DVI-VGA Adaptor.
This is how it is done
First we need a few items
3 x 75 ohm resistors
Soldering Iron & Solder
A Easy Hands Soldering Stand (If you have one, make life simpler)
VGA plugs and casing
DVI-VGA Adaptors ( 1 x for each Dummy Plug used )
The Items
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/MakingVGA-DummyPlugs.jpg
Now we need to Solder 3 x 75ohm Resistors into the Rear of the VGA Plug see pinouts diagram below
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/1.jpg
Pin Name Description
1 RED Red Video (75 ohm, 0.7 V p-p)
2 GREEN Green Video (75 ohm, 0.7 V p-p)
3 BlUE Blue Video (75 ohm, 0.7 V p-p)
6 RGND Red Ground
7 GGND Green Ground
8 BGND Blue Ground
Now we should have something resembling like this
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/Soldering75ohmresistorstoVGAPlug.jpg
I usually put some shrink tube on so there is no fear in getting a short circuit
Then we pop the VGA Plug Shell Casing on
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/4.jpg
Now we have our DVI-VGA Adaptor and our newly made VGA Dummy Plug
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/DVI-VGAandDummyPlug.jpg
Pop then together like so
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/DummyPludattachedtoDVIAdapter.jpg
Now you are ready to install onto your GPU- Video Card
Also here is another quick way, of Utilising DVI-VGA Adaptor to make a makshift Dummy Plug, wherby we just bend Resistors and pop them into the back-side of the VGA Adaptor.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r169/Jolly-Swagman/FoldingAtHome/VGA-Dummy%20Plugs/AnotherversionofDummyPlug.jpg
This Method is useful for quick testing but the Preferred above Soldered Method for Long term use!
Hope this has been useful to you!
Thnk You
JS
EarthDog
01-19-11, 11:15 AM
Very nice!!!
GIXXERGUY6
01-19-11, 12:42 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but we don't need these with the new drivers do we?
I haven't used them since updating drivers.
DarkWarrior
01-19-11, 12:43 PM
This should be a sticky!!
harlam357
01-19-11, 02:06 PM
I had Jolly re-post this as it was buried in our old install sticky but I felt was a great post and still valid information. This will get incorporated into the new Team 32 Super Sticky (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664162). :)
GIXXERGUY6
01-19-11, 02:09 PM
I had Jolly re-post this as it was buried in our old install sticky but I felt was a great post and still valid information. This will get incorporated into the new Team 32 Super Sticky (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664162). :)
I knew that!:rofl::bang head:screwy:
He did do a nice job on the dodads though :D
You could just be lazy like me and cram the resistors into your DVI-VGA plug.
:rock:
90122
Jolly's is very pro looking though.
I had Jolly re-post this as it was buried in our old install sticky but I felt was a great post and still valid information. This will get incorporated into the new Team 32 Super Sticky (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664162). :)
Updated :thup:
Link here (http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664162#teamlinks).
harlam357
04-07-11, 04:50 PM
It took me long enough to forward that PM. :D
PeddlerOfFlesh
04-08-11, 05:04 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but we don't need these with the new drivers do we?
I haven't used them since updating drivers.
Drivers for what? My Win7 box will still claim there's no monitor attached and F@H will die if something isn't plugged in...
capttripppp
12-17-11, 05:37 PM
Quick question, I was in Radio Shack today hoping to score some 75 ohm resistors and low and behold they have none. (Why would they have what I need when I need it? There's a history there.... Them not having things I need) So I bought 100 ohm resistors in the mindset that it's over 75 so it may work. Now bare with me because I have no working experience with resistors. Is my assumption correct in that I can use the 100 ohm resistors? or should I just order some off of fleabay? Thanks
Quick question, I was in Radio Shack today hoping to score some 75 ohm resistors and low and behold they have none. (Why would they have what I need when I need it? There's a history there.... Them not having things I need) So I bought 100 ohm resistors in the mindset that it's over 75 so it may work. Now bare with me because I have no working experience with resistors. Is my assumption correct in that I can use the 100 ohm resistors? or should I just order some off of fleabay? Thanks
They might be close enough to work. However, if you PM me your mailing address, I'll send you 10 or 20 75-ohm 1/4 watt resistors.
Norcalsteve
12-17-11, 06:21 PM
Quick question, I was in Radio Shack today hoping to score some 75 ohm resistors and low and behold they have none. (Why would they have what I need when I need it? There's a history there.... Them not having things I need) So I bought 100 ohm resistors in the mindset that it's over 75 so it may work. Now bare with me because I have no working experience with resistors. Is my assumption correct in that I can use the 100 ohm resistors? or should I just order some off of fleabay? Thanks
As a former radio shack employee, (13 years ago) I was at the start of the "modernization" of the "shack"... Where pushing big ticket items, MSN Internet in store shopping sprees and duping customers to sign up for Sprint Long distance when they come in to buy those resistors. You won't find many small electronics in you normal stores now. But if you are lucky, radio shack franchises it's name out to electronic store people, and you have the die hard Shack'y ol timers that keep those resistors stocked. Or you can resort to the interweb for those pesky little things. But shipping on a 10 cent item is hilarious, unless you buy bulk.
Thank you Jolly for giving me mine 2 years ago... Still workin!
capttripppp
12-17-11, 06:52 PM
They might be close enough to work. However, if you PM me your mailing address, I'll send you 10 or 20 75-ohm 1/4 watt resistors.
pm sent, thank you sir:attn: I have a couple of monitors that I can set up in the time being
capttripppp
12-17-11, 06:56 PM
As a former radio shack employee, (13 years ago) I was at the start of the "modernization" of the "shack"... Where pushing big ticket items, MSN Internet in store shopping sprees and duping customers to sign up for Sprint Long distance when they come in to buy those resistors. You won't find many small electronics in you normal stores now. But if you are lucky, radio shack franchises it's name out to electronic store people, and you have the die hard Shack'y ol timers that keep those resistors stocked. Or you can resort to the interweb for those pesky little things. But shipping on a 10 cent item is hilarious, unless you buy bulk.
Thank you Jolly for giving me mine 2 years ago... Still workin!
Yeah I remember the days when I could into Radio Shack and get I needed. Really sucks now. I had the guy at my local "shack" almost refuse to sell me some coaxial because I wouldn't give him my email address. Then he got all huffy and puffy when I didn't want his 3 year warranty. I told him that if I needed a 3 year warranty for their coaxial then I sure didn't want to buy it, and would just go down the road to the electrical supply house. He didn't like that much! I only go there when it's really needed because they are closest, but I never learn that they NEVER have what I need
augie1111
12-17-11, 07:32 PM
As a former radio shack employee, (13 years ago) I was at the start of the "modernization" of the "shack"... Where pushing big ticket items, MSN Internet in store shopping sprees and duping customers to sign up for Sprint Long distance when they come in to buy those resistors. You won't find many small electronics in you normal stores now. But if you are lucky, radio shack franchises it's name out to electronic store people, and you have the die hard Shack'y ol timers that keep those resistors stocked. Or you can resort to the interweb for those pesky little things. But shipping on a 10 cent item is hilarious, unless you buy bulk.
Thank you Jolly for giving me mine 2 years ago... Still workin!How could any business survive just selling resistors and capacitors. We are a lucky bunch with a hobbyist's delight where they have an extensive loose part stockroom along with the profit making stuff. pop. 100K which has lasted since 1979 (https://secure.mgelectro.com/aboutus.aspx).
Radio Shack is here too but up here it's now called 'The Source'. The pox on blister packs with idiots manning the stores whereas at MG's they know what they're talking about, even with 3 shacks in the area they're doing just fine.
BTW to the OP, you could always put resistors in series or parallel to achieve what you need but it might not fit properly in the connector.
tuigi69
12-17-11, 07:58 PM
Woh. Still needing dummy plugs for monitors? Win7 with latest drivers should allow you to fold on the extra VC. I just tested my dual card on FAH to see what impact they had on my CPU folding and the two gpu's folding an instance each worked fine.
BTW for those wondering, tested GPU folding on two GTX 470s. Dropped CPU folding ppd by almost 10k, and got 10k on each GPU. So +10k ppd overall. Only problem is that my system went from 300w to almost 800w. +10k for 500w is DEFINITELY not work it unless your despirately trying to wam the house.
augie1111
12-17-11, 08:19 PM
Woh. Still needing dummy plugs for monitors? Win7 with latest drivers should allow you to fold on the extra VC. I just tested my dual card on FAH to see what impact they had on my CPU folding and the two gpu's folding an instance each worked fine.
BTW for those wondering, tested GPU folding on two GTX 470s. Dropped CPU folding ppd by almost 10k, and got 10k on each GPU. So +10k ppd overall. Only problem is that my system went from 300w to almost 800w. +10k for 500w is DEFINITELY not work it unless your despirately trying to wam the house.I do with a 260 and 470 on my i7 930 machine, I get a message that the second card is not recognized, I can't get them to behave in dual mode otherwise. I still thank torin before you made this post jolly.:)
I'm not using dummy plugs on any 2 gpu machine. The need for them ceased with the move to 25x.xx and greater drivers.
Team kizb
12-18-11, 04:40 AM
S@H doesn't require dummy plugs either :)
augie1111
12-18-11, 05:19 AM
I'm not using dummy plugs on any 2 gpu machine. The need for them ceased with the move to 25x.xx and greater drivers.Really? I'll have to test that out today as my drivers are up in the 28x.xx range and I haven't rebooted for several months so I'll try getting both cards going without the plug then. Machine is seriously outdated asa far as updates are concerned anyways so a good time to do maintenance.:o:D
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