vb coders

[expryo]

I was wondering how many people in this forum know vb......

[Gonzo]

I dont know VB extremely well, but I have had a class in it and can do database interfaces pretty good.

[engjohn]

I do....

[XprincoX]

hmmm.. now that i think about it i know SOOO many languages.... and yes i do too :D

[SuperFLY]

modest too :p

lol

err i no em all :D (im modest..*cough* ;))

apart from php (learnin atm)
perl (crap)

so yeh.. i mainly use the vb script in my asp programming

[Krieger]

I use vb pretty extensively, and ASP. I've also used a handful of other languages... C, C++, Java, etc...

[M00CH]

i was taught all the languages C, C++, VB, COBOL, HTML, DBA, PHP, pearl, etc.... the problem is i dont use them all so i end up forgetting them... right now i could use html and java no prob, but as for the rest i would have to sit down and read up an them again...:)

[armatage]

I'm learning C++ and VB at the moment. The main problem is rembering the differences between the two. For example : -
I keep using 'Switch case' in VB by mistake instead of 'Select case' and then wondering why it won't compile.

What do you think is the best all round language?

[iggybaseball]

i know my fair share

[Krieger]

Thre really is not any all around good language. Everything is good at some things and bad at others. With Visual Studio you can intergrate C/C++ and VB. This allows you some leeway on what to use to program in.

[skip]

That's my background

[pixelstick]

That's what I do... mainly VB & ASP. I also do HTML, DHTML, JavaScript, C++ and am learning Java.

[druidelder]

I don't know Krieger, I think C++ is good for everything except the time it takes to code certain things (like a windows-type environment for your program). Binary is pretty handy too....

[pixelstick]

Obviously specific languages were created to excel in specific areas. If they weren't created in this manner all languages would be equal.

[pixelstick]

Another (big) factor is how comfortable you are developing in a specific language. One developer may prefer C++ rather than VB because that is what they are familiar with. Unless you're writing an app where one language is obviously better at implementing the specific functionality that you need, the point is really moot as to what language you use the develop the app.

[Cooler666]

I know Visual Basic and I HATE IT!
i prefer Delphi, Java and C++. Microsoft why don't you invent a decent programming language for once instead of copying Java and ruining it, using C++ like morons, and inventing Visual Basic which is the worst programming language that exists.

[pixelstick]

You don't have anything against Microsoft, do you Cooler???

[ButcherUK]

VB is hardly the worst, take COBOL or early Fortran for instance. Still it's not great.
For a general purpose language I'd have to say C++ - it's just a lot more flexible than anything else.
As for ruining Java, Sun did a good job of that by themselves, not that C# is any better (I assume this is what you mean by the ruining Java comment).

[The Coolest]

I use VB sometimes... I do learn C++ now, and know a lil DOS x86 ASM

[loweric]

I learn VB when I did my final year thesis, in my opinion, it is very easy to learn and simple. I like it

[druidelder]

VB is actually excellent for it's intended purpose. When used in Visual Studio, you can easily create your gui in VB and then write all of your actual functionality in C++ and save them as dll files. Yeah, VB is slow and not super efficient, but it is actually one of the most efficient ways to create a gui. Not only is it simple and fast, but all it really does is instanciate Windows objects that are already loaded at boot-up. Save time, use VB to create your gui. Save yourself from headaches, use C++ to code the actual program.

[Phase_V]

I know VB and although it is easy to use, i think that it is not as versatile as other languages. My personal favorite would have to be programming DirectX in C++ The stuff you can do is amazing and it's flexible too.

[drkshadow0000]

im take vb right now, and also c++, and html/java... and have already taken turbo pascel..blah i hated that class..

[fade2black]

Originally posted by M00CH
i was taught all the languages C, C++, VB, COBOL, HTML, DBA, PHP, pearl, etc.... i would have to sit down and read up an them again...:)

I would say you need to go back and refresh PERL since you can't even spell it right! :D ha ha Just fookin with ya! ;)

BTW, What is DBA? I thought that was a database administrator.

- Fade

[Krieger]

druidelder, do you mean assembly? if so I think you can include assembly inline wiht vb though I've never tried it. Also Phase_V
the directx SDK comes with VB tutoricals as well now. just a thought. You really can't beat VB for rapid application prototyping and development. But then again, that sounds alot like a sales pitch...

[Dragoncat]

I used to know C++ and many many years ago I knew how to program assembly language on an intel 8080a , but it's been so long.. even longer ago I programed in cobol, but I allways kept on getting errors!!! (I was just a kid then!! I was in the "advanced math class, and computers was part of the curriculum...) NOw all I know is Qbasic, but I will be getting Visual basic soon as a gift from my brother, and I MAY NEED some pointers and help getting started... can any of you give me some Ideas as to what program would be a good program for one so new to V.B?? I took it once in colledge but I thought it was so confusing... I never finnished that class either, and perhaps I should have... stuck with it that is... oplease give me some basic "beginner advice and ideas for programs, if you will I am new to V.B. (I haven't gotten the program yet , but soon will, and I need a little encouragement) is there any V.B> specific programs
info place anywhere online that any of you know of? I would like to find such a place, cause I'll be needing some help ... soon...
Thanks...:cool:

[Krieger]

dragoncat, I have a bunch of links at home. I'll post them when I get home.

[fade2black]

Go to Google and do a search for VB tutorial. There are a bunch of really good tutorials on the web. Or do a "document" search on Morpheus, KaZaa, whatever you use, for visual basic and you'll find a lot of good documents, tutorials, classes, etc.

- Fade

[pixelstick]

Since you're just getting started, you might want to pick up a VB book from any bookstore. Most of the beginning books out now are pretty good about explaining the basics and the background needed. There are also some great websites, but from my experience are really only helpful if you have a grasp on the background information needed to get you started. Grab a book and start from page one...

Good Luck!

[Krieger]

It's funny that I never think of telling someone that, but I always buy a book on what language or technology I'm working with at the time... bookshelf is falling apart...

[Guid0]

Originally posted by ButcherUK
VB is hardly the worst, take COBOL or early Fortran for instance. Still it's not great.
For a general purpose language I'd have to say C++ - it's just a lot more flexible than anything else.
As for ruining Java, Sun did a good job of that by themselves, not that C# is any better (I assume this is what you mean by the ruining Java comment).

good loard A-men to the cobol statement (if it didn't take like 3000 lines of code to make a hello world app i might like it....naaaah). I just started learning VB and it's a ton of fun. I have taken 2 semesters of C++ and still have not made a gui app yet. When i got a VB book and run through it and made my first gui app ( a slot machine) it not only felt great to see something gui rather than a win32 console app day in day out.

[druidelder]

Wait until you learn how to tie your C++ cade to your VB GUI, then you'll be having real fun.

[drunkmonkey]

I preatty good it it.

[pixelstick]

Originally posted by drunkmonkey
I preatty good it it.

Hopefully better at coding than at grammar & spelling :)

[adovbs]

I don't know it yet, but I'm in the process of learning it. It will be my first 'compiled' language.

I do use vbScript on a daily basis (which is why I chose VB for my first venture into 'real' programming) along with the regular hodge-podge of common web scripting languages.

Adovbs

[Krieger]

adovbs feel free to pm me if you have any questions. or need some help.

[adovbs]

adovbs feel free to pm me if you have any questions. or need some help.

Thanks! I appreciate the offer.

Adovbs

[foshdawg]

Originally posted by ButcherUK
VB is hardly the worst, take COBOL or early Fortran for instance. Still it's not great.
For a general purpose language I'd have to say C++ - it's just a lot more flexible than anything else.
As for ruining Java, Sun did a good job of that by themselves, not that C# is any better (I assume this is what you mean by the ruining Java comment).

COBOL, ASM, Fortran and CORBA are evil and should die their welcomed death. C# is MS's version (re; blatant rip off of) of Sun's Java. and with the soon to be released J#, it's all going downhill from there.

[Dragoncat]

thanks pixelstix, I think I will get a book on vb, as soon as I have enough MOOLAH, and thanks Kreiger also, in advance , for your posts of the websites, etc...KEEP on programming those
BITS and BYTES.. HEH HEH, well TAH TAH for now, but I'll be back here again somtime later, perhaps...John.

[heezer7]

I know VB and i think it is a great Windows Language too bad it will not be any use when i go to college next year

[druidelder]

Unless you're going into OS programming or hardware programming, what you know about VB will hardly be of no value. It's very widely taught in a lot of top notch schools in the CS department. I haven't heard of any schools moving over to .Net to ruin your fun yet either.

[notquiterite]

i know vb. taught it to myself during computer science class in 9th grade (we were doing microsoft Office :rolleyes:)

[TheFlutePlayer]

In my job, I use VB and Access VBA constantly to work with SQL Server & Access databases. I have found VB(A) a very valuable tool to know. In my case, I have no use for C++ because I can usually do the job in VB much faster. Which programming language you use/learn really just depends on what the job requires anyway.

One thing I have noticed these days though. If you want to be valuable in the marketplace as a VB programmer, learn COM, n-tier architecture, and how to program the Windows API. Someone once told me that these are some of the types of skills that pay the big bucks.

[SpeedFreak]

Function Response()

Dim Answer : Answer = "Yes"
Response.Write Answer

Function End

[Terra Knight]

I like SpeedFreaks answer alot... so:

Function Response2 (TKRep, SpeedFreakRep)

Dim TKRep
Dim SpeedFreakRep
TKRep = SpeedFreakRep

End Function

Forum.Reply = TKRep

Simple, crude and I totally bit this from him, and forgive the pun, but that was very witty SpeedFreak. *bows to SF*
:p

[SpeedFreak]

Function Reply(TKRep)

Dim ForumResponse : ForumResponse = "Terra Knight, I got your response."

If TKRep.Value <> vbnullstring then

MsgBox "Got it.", vbOKOnly

Overclockers_Forums.Overclocking.Programming_Tips_ and_Tricks.vb_coders.text.value = ForumResponse

Else

Wait(TKRep)

End If

Private Sub Wait(TKRep)

me.ProgressBar.Visible = True
me.Timer1.Interval = 1000
me.ProgressBar.Max = 60

Dim PauseTime: PauseTime = 60
Dim Start, Finish, TotalTime, Count

Count = 0
Start = Timer

Do While Timer < Start + PauseTime
DoEvents

While TKRep.Value = vbnullstring

Static intTime
If IsEmpty(intTime) Then intTime = 1

me.ProgressBar.Value = intTime

If intTime = me.ProgressBar.Max Then
me.Timer1.Enabled = False
me.ProgressBar.Visible = True
intTime = 1
me.ProgressBar.Value = me.ProgressBar.Min

LOOP

Else
intTime = intTime + 1
End If



Response.Write "I did not receive your reply in a timly fashion. Please resubmit your response..."

End Sub

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jmusial/TKRep.jpg

[Terra Knight]

Now THAT was cute! I like it!

[SpeedFreak]

Just thought is was fun TK! It should work too...<G>

[AgEnT0140]

int pascal
writeln "I prefer PaScAl"
write "It's just so fun!"
pascal := fun

lets see... did i get that right? i can barely remember my pascal... C++ is taking over is there any semi colns at the send of the line? VB is too slow, i like visual C++ or just normal console C++.

[Slurgi]

My dad does a lot of stuff in access for his job, so i taught him VB from what i learned in 1 semester of Comp Prog. He says that just that information alone has saved him tons of time and such.

I plan on learning C++ after learning VB. I have no where else to learn after my school's 1 semester offering of VB, so I guess i gotta teach myself and just snippet code of the internet and experiment.

Being taught by a teacher is umm... a lot easier...

Speedfreak, that was a cool responce! :)

[Cooler666]

Originally posted by Slurgi
My dad does a lot of stuff in access for his job, so i taught him VB from what i learned in 1 semester of Comp Prog. He says that just that information alone has saved him tons of time and such.

I plan on learning C++ after learning VB. I have no where else to learn after my school's 1 semester offering of VB, so I guess i gotta teach myself and just snippet code of the internet and experiment.

Being taught by a teacher is umm... a lot easier...

Speedfreak, that was a cool responce! :)

you can always learn Java before C++, its much easier, uses the same syntax and will really teach you a lot about C++

[SpeedFreak]

You might want to take a look at C#, very similar to Java which is syntactically similar to C++... I think learing C# the latest (dotNET) platform from Microsoft would be a greater benefit.

[Kryten]

I know enough to get me into trouble :)