amd + 500mhz = intel?

[sendatooli]

i dont mean to diss anyone here. please also correct me if i am wrong. it appears to me that a northwood has to run about 500-700 mhz faster than a xp to get comparable sandra scores? i am talking about overclocked processors, of course. like a northwood at 2400 mhz is about equal to a xp running at 1700mhz. they are priced about the same. so at least with the northwood you can brag that it goes 2400mhz! yes, the northwood is faster at sse2 tasks. the xp does not have sse2. turn off the sse2 and the xp hands down burries the northwood. the next generation from amd doesnt look so great compared to the xp. so the northwood is the new celeron 300a in terms of total mhz. the xp is the new celeron 300a in terms of sheer power. thats how i would put it. anyone agree/dissagree?

why does all this matter to me? it doesnt! i have dual mp's that are NOT overclocked! i dont intend to replace them for about a year from now! i do, however build many xp based machines for people. so when northwood showed up, i had to ask myself is this the new grand champion? not really. a contender, yes indeed.
so it doesnt really matter which one you buy. i guess this is why amd went back to performance rating system. they were definetly right. i think amd proves that there will be a time in the future when mhz does not dictate processor performance. more operations per clock cycle and other enhancements will be on order. it's a shame intel got everyone thinking higher mhz means faster. now no one wants to buy lower mhz processors that actually do go faster!


just my 2 cents,
sendatooli.

[Kendan]

This one is probably going to end up in debates. Just out of curiosity where is the info about the next generation AMD chips coming from? Is it benchmarks or speculation? Please post some links.

[bobt17]

i think amd future looks great with the hammer and x86-64 :)

[sendatooli]

i was referring to this on the front page of this site: http://www.overclockers.com/tips862/

what i was really talking about though, is that the current amd xp's are as fast as intell northwood(a) cpu's that are clocked 500-700mhz higher. yes the intels are a little faster. they should be, going 700mhz higher. yes, they are faster because of the sse-2. the amd's do not have sse-2. if you compensate for the fact the amd's do not have sse-2, they are much faster than the intels. all this running 700mhz less than the intel's. i have to commend amd on making a 1700mhz(overclocked xp 1600+) that goes as fast as the competiters 2400mhz cpu(overclocked northwood p4 1600a). amd has finally made some great cpu's. now if the chipset venders could just straighten up their act.



sendatooli.