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OC-Master
05-09-02, 03:38 PM
Seeing how the Tbreds already will use high multipliers in the cores 11X+, the Bartons will have even bigger multipliers.

I was surfing a few news groups this morning and appearently, a few lucky people have already gotten ahold of three Barton prototype CPUs.

I know this is a long shot even talking about Barton but they said that the CPU booted in @ 1750MHz on a 100MHz FSB. When the CPU was raised to 133FSB, the system wouldnt even post. These Athlons had 512KB L2 Cache on em.

I guess its just cool to know that there will be Athlon processors with the multipliers locked at 17.5X! or maybe even higher?

These guys will be coming forward the next few weeks and will post a website on what they have concluded with pictures and everything for everyone.

I know now that I'm definately waiting for the Barton core!

17.5X in model ratings would be an Athlon XP3000+.

Lastly, I sent a post to the one guy asking him if there was SSE2 on the CPU, I'm currently waiting for him to email me back.



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Despotes
05-09-02, 04:19 PM
Keep us posted:cool:

elysium
05-09-02, 06:00 PM
If they had gotten it posted at 17,5*133, that would have made an oc in PIV class :beer:

elysium

bdf24
05-09-02, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by elysium
I need $$$ to build an oc rig!!!!

.............................

Hello?
Anybody?
Please?

Give me some ****** cash!!!!!

I'd give you some cash. But I already spent all of mine trying to build an "Overclocking Rig". Now I can't even feed my family! HEHEHEHE! :)

Yodums
05-09-02, 09:39 PM
It seems like overclocking with the XP series won't even overclock well at the Barton because it's hit a wall.

Yodums

gtsimmo
05-09-02, 09:48 PM
damn that wall, oh well cant have everything. Hopefully barton multi will be unlockable to give AMD fans a edge in overclocking. Did they get it to 110 or 120 fsb? Or anything over 100? With P4 operating at 533 fsb, barton may not be able to go head to toe with only 200 fsb using DDR, unless they adapt a Quad arch like intel

Mr. $T$
05-09-02, 10:37 PM
hmmm barton muss have proto

OC-Master
05-10-02, 02:01 AM
A wall could only be pushed back but never knocked down without the help of smaller DIE shrinks once again.

If AMD countinues to work at 0.13Micron Die size, Barton could be a great success.

Just look at Intel, there Northwood core is supposed to go right up to 3.5GHz with 1.5V with standard cooling yet anything past 3.2GHz with there current 2.53GHz is impossible even with the most extreme voltage and cooling.

I can see tons of steppings in the future of Tbred before we see Bartons pop up!



AXIA

jbell
05-10-02, 03:30 AM
I heard from XTW that they might cancel the barton to concentrate on the t-bred... t-bred's lowest pr would start at 3500+

can anyone verify or has anybody heard anything similar?

bdf24
05-10-02, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by jbell
I heard from XTW that they might cancel the barton to concentrate on the t-bred... t-bred's lowest pr would start at 3500+

can anyone verify or has anybody heard anything similar?

WOW! I can still remember year's back when the PIII 500 came out. It was the FASTEST thing around. People could'nt believe how fast thing's were getting. Now were talking about running 3500mhz!

jbell
05-10-02, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by bdf24


WOW! I can still remember year's back when the PIII 500 came out. It was the FASTEST thing around. People could'nt believe how fast thing's were getting. Now were talking about running 3500mhz!

we are also on track to break 10GHz for personal computers by 2005...

man no way will even swiftech stand a chance in hell then!!

that is faster than A.I. right now!!!

I remember getting my p166 with 28.8 modem and I about died!! it was sooo fast!

then 56k came out and I wanted it so bad but way to expensive for me LMAO

The Coolest
05-10-02, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by jbell
I heard from XTW that they might cancel the barton to concentrate on the t-bred... t-bred's lowest pr would start at 3500+

can anyone verify or has anybody heard anything similar?

I think that u mean the Hammer, and the actual speed of them will be about 2GHz, but the pr 3400+...

OC-Master
05-10-02, 10:05 AM
jbell,

I think you mean hammer bro with the PR rating at 3400+, 3800+ and 4200+.

The Barton is still coming, and its gonna replace the Duron processor once Duron is gonner (AthlonXP becomes Value processor 2003).

But yeah, all signs of an XP3000+ with the 266MHz Bus are a go ahead with the Athlon core. XP3000+ should be here around Christmas this year.

Hmm, SSE2 and 512KB L2 would easily compasate the PR rating with a Pentium4 with 533MHz Bus.



AXIA

OC-Master
05-10-02, 10:09 AM
One note, I just wonder how much more Juice AthlonXPs will put out once we get the clock speeds over 2000MHz. At over 2GHz, the Bus speed (266MHz) becomes a HUGE bottleneck to the PC. I dont think much performance will be gained going from a 2000MHz AthlonXP to a 2333MHz AthlonXP, simply because that poor old 266Bus is just gonna give out:eek: .

I still want to see a 2333MHz CPU thou because I need a AthlonXP cpu on a 266MHz Bus that would be overclocked to hit 2666MHz.


AXIA

jbell
05-10-02, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by The Coolest


I think that u mean the Hammer, and the actual speed of them will be about 2GHz, but the pr 3400+...

like I said I heard from one source - that source is good but I wanted to find otu more...

Emericana
05-10-02, 04:31 PM
yeah cpus are gonna get hella fast as well..

one question, the bartons are gonna default 100mhz fsb? why not 133 or even better 166?

also, i forgot where i read it but i read that intel has 5 ghz chips running with passive cooling. thats crazy stuff. hopefully amd will follow their lead in that department.

elysium
05-10-02, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Emericana
yeah cpus are gonna get hella fast as well..

one question, the bartons are gonna default 100mhz fsb? why not 133 or even better 166?

also, i forgot where i read it but i read that intel has 5 ghz chips running with passive cooling. thats crazy stuff. hopefully amd will follow their lead in that department.

It ran for something like 2minutes :beer: :beer:

It was a short presentation, and the avarage uptime was probobly less than a minute ;)

elysium

Oni
05-10-02, 05:33 PM
Hey guys, look at me. I have a prototype Hammer that'll do 25x mult *150. You gotta believe me! You've never seen/talked to me, and I don't have any pics or benchies or anything, but you believe me, right!?

Just because some guys on the net say something is true, doesn't mean you believe them. I mean, lets see some pics of this "Barton" they have. Lets see screenies/Benchies/BIOS pics. What board are they using? How much Vcore?

I'm not jumping on this, and you guys shouldn't be, either.

jbell
05-10-02, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Oni
Hey guys, look at me. I have a prototype Hammer that'll do 25x mult *150. You gotta believe me! You've never seen/talked to me, and I don't have any pics or benchies or anything, but you believe me, right!?

Just because some guys on the net say something is true, doesn't mean you believe them. I mean, lets see some pics of this "Barton" they have. Lets see screenies/Benchies/BIOS pics. What board are they using? How much Vcore?

I'm not jumping on this, and you guys shouldn't be, either.

well they would but um... testing software is incapable of measuring the speeds becuase they are just too fast for the sensors... its true , yeah really it is!

Oni
05-11-02, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by jbell
well they would but um... testing software is incapable of measuring the speeds becuase they are just too fast for the
sensors... its true , yeah really it is!

Don't I know it! And temps? Dayum! I could run this thing w/ a passive hs and get watercooled temps! I mean, my God! It's absolutely amazing! You believe me, right? Right?!

OC-Master
05-11-02, 10:05 AM
0.13M Technology is capable of clock speeds well over 2GHz whether it's AMD or not.

Passive cooling is all that stock CPUs have ever used or will ever use (Defualt factory recommendation).

I for one actually believe these guys may actually have a prototype in there hands since lab techies are testing hammer already!

I also believe that these CPUs arent really no more stable than the Tbreds that are out now. I just think that in time when AMD gets there act together, we might just see clock speeds screach well over the 2GHz on socketA(AthlonXP).



AXIA