Amd Clocking Speed And Heat

i learning amd is not all that! I have amd 1800 xp running at 1533 not 1800? im lost!!! system performance says can run at 1700 but how? can some one help? mb asus A7V266-E 512 ddr!
AND also cooliling looking for decent water cooling sys that not going to brake my bank like around $100.00 if possiable Im running at about 130 F and trying to get cooler it was 150 I cleaned up my cable and added fan in front and rear. icq#11775129 mail [email protected]


thanks








LIVE OR DIE DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU DONT BELIVE

JOHN 3:16

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Welcome to the forums!!!

Your Xp 1800+ is clocked at 1533 Mhz... The reason its named 1800+ is to show that it perofrms as well or better than an Intel chip clocked at 1800 Mhz. This is called the PR rating, and it is just a marketing thing. Fear not, though! Yor XP will perform very well, and was a much better buy than a P4 on a price/performance ratio.

You'll want to cool that XP as best you can with case fans and a nice copper heatsink. Watercooling is hard to do on a budget. but if you buy a heatercore from an 86 Chevy Chevelle, and $40 waterblock, a maxijet pump, some vinyl tubing and fittings from a hardware store, and make your own reservoir or use a fishtank, it could maybe be done for close to $100.

Keep checking out these forums, and I'm sure you'll get some good ideas.

PS. Hope you can get that 1800 overclocked up to 1650 or more Mhz!! Then you'll be performing at the level of a 2 ghz Pentium!!!

The important thing to figure out is benchmarking and testing stability... there are a lot of ways to do this, but a couple that we do here that have competitions and teams based around them are:
3dmark2001- a video benchmark
Folding@Home- a constant stability test

Links to both of these are in my signature. Hope you enjoy our forums!

Another tip, post in the right forum, your in Intel land here

Yes, any reason you fancied posting that in Intel land? Don't you know we kill Athloners on site?

Also, Arkaine is right. 1800+ is a PR Rating. That is basically what AMD says is the P4 speed it beats. It does NOT run at that mhz speed.

I got the tar and feathers.

Who's got the rope?

=P

i beg to differ Arkaine23!

Since our thread originator is overclocking, i'd say your statement that his athlon xp "was a much better buy than a P4 on a price/performance ratio" was in error.

not to mention inconsiderate! this is an INTEL arena!

just jokin', (not really).

please, show me an aircooled athlon xp1600+ performing at xp2400+ aka p4-2.4ghz levels. or, for that matter, show me an athlon xp+ that costs the same as a p4-1.6ghz and can outperform it overclocked???

you can't. i checked!

i WAS going to get an athlon, which i planned on unlocking and overclocking. i just assumed it was the better purchase. and that used to be true.

but right now, if you overclock, and bang for the buck is your sole motive, Intel's P4 is a much better buy than an athlon xp on a price/performance ratio.

If the reverse were true, i'd have bought an athlon system. i have no loyalties to amd or intel, the only entity of importance to me, is me and what i get for my money, as far as overclocked PCs goes.

If you are going to run a stock system, and not overclock, AMD's athlon xp line is competitive with the p4 line. And it's a matter of personal preference in that arena.

however, in the stock non-overclocked arena, i would consider the reported overclockability of a given cpu line to be an indication of manufacturing quality and product durability.

now get out of here until you learn how to behave in somebody elses home!

PEACE!
BdK

ok now i posted in asus boards

I posted in asus bords thats whats at the top of my page now!i was trying to ask how to set the mother board or if i could to over clock it but got cut short with 3 kids its hard to spend time on puter any more. I wont bother you any more I thought the sight was to help others not treat them like crap you can take your tar and feathers and crame it.sorry I bothered you!!!!!!!!!

Re: ok now i posted in asus boards

flywheel169 said:

I posted in asus bords thats whats at the top of my page now!i was trying to ask how to set the mother board or if i could to over clock it but got cut short with 3 kids its hard to spend time on puter any more. I wont bother you any more I thought the sight was to help others not treat them like crap you can take your tar and feathers and crame it.sorry I bothered you!!!!!!!!!

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Whoa whoa whoa.. relax.

We're all just teasing here. Most of us own both AMD and Intel processors. It's just forum guidelines to post in the proper section. Or else we'd have video questions in the storage forum.

Also some of us specialise. Most of the Intel section people specialise and follow Intel stuff more closely especially with on-hands experience. AMD stuff is foreign and therefore we wouldn't be able to answer your question whereas the AMD people could do so.

Anyways, your Q was answered by Arkaine23 already.

easy killer!

easy killer!

if you see those smileys , that means somebody is teasing or joking around. and it's intended that you would take things lightly with a grain of salt.

i mainly disagreed with arkaine23 in my post and wasn't targeting you specifically.

but arkaine23 was right, these forums are really a great place to learn.

however, if you do get the time (children permitting) and you can figure out how to post in the forum areas that are "on topic" with what you need help with, i'd wager that you'll be better served.

if you need help finding the "on topic" area that best suits your concerns, feel free to PM me in the future and i'll help get you squared away if you can't figure it out.

i must admit, the only reason i read your thread was because it said AMD in the "asus intel boards" forum.

anyway,

have a cold one

and don't think badly of this place, just bring your sense of humor and maybe some of your wit along with you next time.

PEACE!
BdK

Mopeades, thanks for letting me know that I am part of the minority. BTW, Flywheel, try posting this in http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=44 , which is the AMD Asus Motherboards section. In case you haven't noticed, this is the Intel Asus Motherboards section. Maybe you made a mistake, I don't know. We weren't really threatening or goin to kill you (well, maybe we were ). We can't really help you very well in here, as this is for Intel users, and we aren't exactly experts on AMD. The people in the link I provided can help you more than us. Alright Mark?

AntmanMike said:

Mopeades, thanks for letting me know that I am part of the minority.

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Over generalization not meant to be pointed at you nor anyone in particular.

But you are quite helpful here nonetheless.

I was referring to you saying that most people had an AMD and an Intel system :/ heh. Trying to single out Intel Onlyers again????

Oh. I thought you were insulted by saying you specialised in Intel only and not AMD.

Some might take that as my saying people here dunno anything about AMD systems.

I read into it too much=P


edit: I'm probably wrong about it too. Mayb most have *owned* an AMD and Intel(sell for upgrades). Technically I'm Intel only at the moment=)

BTW, I do only use Intel (My cousin uses an AMD, I have been trying to learn from it, its a T-Bird). Even then, I know about AMD (basics, they arent exactly that much different). Hell, I have overclocked APPLE G3s!!!

AMD'S "R" HOTT..!!!

i hope i'm in the right section here. i need some advice on buying a new toaster. should i go with the 4 slice? or should i buy a good quality 2 slice that can do those fat bagels?.... he he he ...

speaking of heat, i'm sure if you guys were bashing the amd's , you would have mentioned , you can heat the spare room off an athlon....he he he

also, my athlon whips my intel's ***....big time.....i wasn't going to tell you , but my intel is a 600mhz celery ....66fsb.... ....not a fair comparison....huh?

either way, i got a good laugh at this thread, and some decent cooling advise too.

can i use ordinary water in a water cooler? or do i need to use something like anti-freeze?

the reason i ask is because i have my pc near my 90 gallon aquarium, and i'm sure i can adapt my filter output to a waterblock.....would this work?

i use decent pumps and filters here...i'm an aquarium buff too....

for those who give a damn...the filters i use are: fluval 403's.........317 gph
fluval 103's..........125 gph

and some power heads...(pumps) @ 170 gph and 300 gph.

how much waterflow is enough and how much is too much?

i think it would be cost effective and f***in' cool as hell to cool this baby with my 90 gallon aquarium setup

gimme some input.........or mother gets it......and i ain't playin' neither....!!!!!

AMD's do put out more heat - at stock speeds. Overclock your P4 and you'll be outputing the same amount of heat.

By ordinary water what did you mean? Tap water? In that case, no. Tap has a load of minerals and unknown chemicals that will wear away your pump. In an aquarium it's ok because fish don't fry after a couple hours. A processor on the otherhand, will.

Buy some distilled water. Gallon is more than enough and doesn't cost all that much. Some people like to use water wetter or anti-freeze.

Of these people some people are also using phase-change somewhere along the line to cool the water and therefore need the water to have a better liquid range.

Some others will say it improves water's..flow(I'm tempted to say viscosity). Erm, it makes water flow better giving you better temps, if marginal.

And still, there are other like me who want their water to be a purty color. Water wetter makes it pink. Anti-freeze makes it green or whatever. Kinda gives your computer an even more mad scientist look. Also kills stuff that would otherwise grow.


Your aquarium. Does it have living organisms in there? If so, poop=bad for the pump. Even if you have a filter I wouldn't do it. Algae or something might form inside the waterblock(because it's warm) and block your waterflow.

If it is empty that would make a killer reservoir. You probably won't even need a radiator because there is so much water.

For pumps, I'm not an expert. I'm not even an expert at watercooling. I just know how to put this and that together. I go and look for the biggest numbers and buy it. Then I look back again and buy another one because I remember I used redundant pumps.

I don't really care, it cooled my [email protected] T-bird well enough. Those T-bird put out massive amounts of heat.

=)

ummm, yup

i do have fish in there. that's why i was willing to use the fish tank for a res.

i probably won't need a radiator at all, but as far as the pumps getting damage from aquaium water...these ar aquarium pumps , so , that's not an issue.

although, the idea of stuff gathering inside the waterblock? there is relevance there. even without the intense heat of the cpu, aquarium hoses get tons of algae build-up and need cleaning every so often. i do have some kick-*** filters here though. i wonder if the heat would actually stop the crap from building up as much, or just cook it in place.

i know the algae would not grow in the waterblock because of the heat and the lack of light, but there are like 50 million organisms other than algae, so i've got like 49,999,999 to go...he he he
ok, i'm looking at a fan, a dryer vent hose, and my 21,000 btu a/c sitting 3 feet from my pc...hmmmmm, will the wife let me cut the a/c and mod it to my pc....naw.....

thanks for the input.....

If you do get it to work out, lemme know. It sounds uber-l33t=)

Who knows, one day put the computer in a waterproof case. Put that in the middle of an aquarium with fishes and the sort. Caption:

"These fish power a 2GHz computer that does folding."

Not true, but who's gonna know?

hmmmm

why not waterproof the components assembled,,,,without the case, and use all thet wired mess as caves and scenery in my tank.....oooooooooooh, i gotta dig the f***in' compaq out of the trash and get some sealer,,,,,lol

fish wastes (Nitrite, etc) and feces, and algae and other microorganisms (plus bacteria and other chemicals such as aqua-plus), would lower the heat capacity of the water.