View Full Version : Vote Intel vs. AMD!
Biohazard
06-14-02, 04:36 PM
Wots best for you the Intel users?
AMD or
Intel?
Get Voting!!!
jdmcnudgent
06-14-02, 04:44 PM
i dont really know what your saying, but i like intel my self.:D
Yeah, I'm sorry that doesn't make too much sense, but if you're saying what I think you're saying I like Intel more.
I've used both, and will end up swapping back and forth a few more times before it's all over....
That said, I like the system I have now better than any of the PIII/Celeron systems I've had in the past, but I have never owned a PIV, which would be a better comparison. I like Intel for the chipset support, and the lack of heat with overclocking, but I'm really starting to like AMD for the sheer power of these XP chips ;)
Well, when you go to the Intel crowd and post a poll of AMD vs Intel, majority will pick Intel.
My two cents are it depends on the system. Both manufactures have their strenghts and weakness. IE: P3-S being one hell of a speedy chip, but very pricey (200.00)... A XP has great performance as well but can't really match up to a 1.6a OCed nearly 1000 mhz.
Therefore, it depends alot on technology. I am neutral but right now Intel is winning the war, and will be till the Clawhammer's (Hopefully).
Yodums
well put yodums, i go for amd my self, but i wouldn't hesitate to try pentium except the chips alone are $500, you can build 2 xp machine for the price of just a pentium cpu...
Biohazard
06-14-02, 05:48 PM
i no its nuts! and all over a heat protechtion!
tainice
06-14-02, 06:16 PM
i am happy with both AMD and Intel systems. However, i am leaning toward AMD more cuz they fold faster than any of Intel i ever owned (i have not tried PIV yet, btw. the rest of PII, III, celeron and tualatin are simply no match.)
jazztrumpet216
06-14-02, 08:20 PM
Honestly? I don't care. I have a mild preference to Intel but since have started using my (albeitely HOT running) new XP chip, I've liked what this thing has to offer. For me, it could really go either way. So, being totally honest, I think it depends on what you're lookin' for.
CSHawkeye81
06-14-02, 08:37 PM
intel for me now then wait for the hammers then might consider my options.
Originally posted by drdingo21
well put yodums, i go for amd my self, but i wouldn't hesitate to try pentium except the chips alone are $500, you can build 2 xp machine for the price of just a pentium cpu...
You can get the the ram and mobo for the same price as an XP mobo and ram being the same, and the chip is a slight difference keeping in mind those Northwood overclock like crazy..
I have been tempted by AMD before but my vote definately goes to Intel.
rogerdugans
06-14-02, 09:22 PM
I like Via:D
Originally posted by Mobile20
Via eh? hmf. lol
Batman@
06-14-02, 09:53 PM
Personally, I have liked AMD for like the past year or so, but lately I have been leaning heavily towards the p4, because the the stability of the chipsets, and the overclocking ability of the northwood. I'm trying to raise money, and get my own p4 rig soon enough.
I think we just set a forum record...an AMD vs. Intel thread, 17 posts, and no flames or otherwise stupid/useless comments against either manufacturer...hmmmmm :eh?: I'm not sure what to think.
Where is Skip, and what have you aliens done with my beloved forums? :eek:
Burning Phoenix
06-14-02, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by takiwa
I think we just set a forum record...an AMD vs. Intel thread, 17 posts, and no flames or otherwise stupid/useless comments against either manufacturer...hmmmmm :eh?: I'm not sure what to think.
Where is Skip, and what have you aliens done with my beloved forums? :eek:
What i've noticed from such past threads that usually end up in the debates section usually 99% of the time AMD users start the fight. So I tend to think Intel users are more respectful to the others. This is posted in the Intel section so you see my point. Go post the same thread in the AMD section and see what happens.
rogerdugans
06-14-02, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
What i've noticed from such past threads that usually end up in the debates section usually 99% of the time AMD users start the fight. So I tend to think Intel users are more respectful to the others. This is posted in the Intel section so you see my point. Go post the same thread in the AMD section and see what happens.
I think thats it right there: I spend more time in the AMD sections because I have more AMD machines- they were better bang for the buck at the time. Note what I said: Bang for The Buck.
Anyway, there are many, not all, but many, people with AMDs that are wild about their chips being THE BEST....the folks in the Intel threads are less likely to be so fanatical. And more likely to appreciate both.
The system I like the best is my Intel Duallie...and I would like to get a Northwood, if it ever fits into my ever-tightening budget.
And I like Via: just having them making cpus gives Intel and AMD something to think about.......:D
Silversinksam
06-15-02, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Yodums
Well, when you go to the Intel crowd and post a poll of AMD vs Intel, majority will pick Intel.
Yodums
OMG, I hate to admit it, but I actually Agree with Yodels.....
Due to this amazing development, I expect an Asteroid to Stike Earth in the next 3 months :D
AntmanMike
06-15-02, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Silversinksam
OMG, I hate to admit it, but I actually Agree with Yodels.....
Due to this amazing development, I expect an Asteroid to Stike Earth in the next 3 months :D
naw, 2 months.
Btw: A picture from the front
http://hardware.clanpages.com/war.jpg
Lt. Max
06-15-02, 02:32 AM
hahahaha antman. lol
thats quite funny. u do it urself?
wonder if that will really hapen some day...
Rasputin'sLiver
06-15-02, 04:22 AM
I am currently using both but I must say that I am delighted with my p4 1.6a at 2.704 ghz! Performance like that is hard to dislike.
For now, Intel rules! :cool:
-> debates forum? (if you post a vs b in a-forum what do u expect to be the result...)
Malakai
06-15-02, 05:43 AM
im an either way, i like AMD and i support them, and i really think by the time Tbred mass shipping steppings hit, they will o/c very well....
but RDram 1066 from samsung isnt gonna cost too much, and as soon as Abit makes their new mobo based on the intel 850E(?) chipset, needless to say id be dumb to not at least check the reviews;)
if i could get the ram to 1200mhz and whatever p4 to 3+ghz, than maybe i will try intel for the 1st time,but this is all on the unlikely possibility that all Tbreds released in the next month wont o/c for crap, and also on the price of the 2.0a or faster northwoods
Malakai
06-15-02, 05:46 AM
most of my debateful agressive posts in the debates forum on Intel vs AMD are when Intel zealots post incorrect info on an AMD chip.....like pre-production CPU's o/c'ability is gonna determine the real chips possibility's. im really a friendly guy, honest;)
and Burning Pheonix, i take much offence to your post above about the AMD people starting the arguments, its a debate forum.....
hmm, what might people do there, agree on everything???
krazykraut
06-15-02, 08:36 AM
AMD strictly bang for buck:D :D
CSHawkeye81
06-15-02, 11:18 AM
cant really say that no more i paid 125 for my cpu that does almost 2.8 ghz.
Rasputin'sLiver
06-15-02, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by CSHawkeye81
cant really say that no more i paid 125 for my cpu that does almost 2.8 ghz.
Exactly! I don't feel like I got ripped off for my 1.6a @ 2.7 for $138.00. If that ain't bang for the buck what is?
Stupid trolling thread. As to the answer to your question, f**k cares. Get what you like. That's what I do anyway...
Exactly! I don't feel like I got ripped off for my 1.6a @ 2.7 for $138.00. If that ain't bang for the buck what is? Yeah, the bang for the buck really only applies when you were comparing a lower-end Celly or Duron to an XP or P4 when they first came out. Now that prices have dropped and stabilized, it's a toss up.
I would think from our prespective here at overclockers.com, that going with either manufacturer would be a toss up, based on the system as a whole. We overclock everything, not just the processor. Yes, the XP's are fast, but the DDR makes the system! Yes, the Northy's o/c to hell and back, but RAMBUS is God! And what good does all that do you if your vid card only goes to 138FSB before crapping out? The point is, I think we are all intelligent enough to know that the cpu isn't everything, but rather one important part of the bigger picture. I would think that memory and chipset options would be more important than the chip manufacturer, for me at least.
AMD has their advantages in the market that they push onto the consumer, and so does Intel. Both serve a purpose, although marketing sometimes makes that purpose hard to see.Without AMD, Intel would have never developed the Northwood. Without Intel, AMD would have never developed the massive IPC capability of their chip. Without one, we wouldn't have the other.
If you have loyalty to a chip manufacturer, take a look at the reasons why, and more often than not, those reasons will have something to do with another part of your system that isn't manufacturerd by either company. We build systems as a whole.
Just wanted to put this debate/question/arguement/whatever in a little different light...
Stupid trolling thread. As to the answer to your question, f**k cares. Get what you like. That's what I do anyway... Very informative...thank you for your input...
Yup you can't compare bang of the buck when you get a chip like the 2.26b and oc it to 3gig w/ an FSB of 180-ish.
Originally posted by laja
Stupid trolling thread. As to the answer to your question, f**k cares. Get what you like. That's what I do anyway...
Very helpful posts...:rolleyes:
There's more to buying when we can discuss things and debate things over.
Rasputin'sLiver
06-15-02, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by takiwa
AMD has their advantages in the market that they push onto the consumer, and so does Intel. Both serve a purpose, although marketing sometimes makes that purpose hard to see.Without AMD, Intel would have never developed the Northwood. Without Intel, AMD would have never developed the massive IPC capability of their chip. Without one, we wouldn't have the other.
Very good point. The fact that these two heavyweights are prodding each other into developing better and less expensive parts is a plus for us all. Glad to have the competition in the marketplace.
Malakai
06-15-02, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by laja
Stupid trolling thread. As to the answer to your question, f**k cares. Get what you like. That's what I do anyway...
*sigh*
shoulda knowh someone would flame soon enough
funnyperson1
06-15-02, 04:12 PM
whichever offers me bang for buck and ocing fun....at this point i like the 1.6A....in the future...who knows...
Darryl_D
06-15-02, 05:22 PM
for me I'm a direhard Intel fan (but i have given amd a chance, and from that little xp 1600+ i grew a large amount of respect for amd chips and those that own them (as oppossed to my die you amd loser die die die attitude beforehand... waaay before i came to this forum that was...)... I have to agree with you all that Intel is one expensive mother f*****! And their chips are usually 25% more than an equivalently rated xp but as of right now Intel is dominating the market, and let's not forget the 80% share they have as opposed to amd's only 20% marketshare.... (MY FAULT NOW I MADE PEOPLE THINK THIS WAS A DEBATE WHEN THIS REALLY WASN'T OOPS LET'S GET BACK ON TRACK HERE).. The reason i like the intel is because setting a system up for them is a no brainer! you have the ram the psu the case the cpu the motherboard (hmmm am i missing something?) oh yea the video and the sound card.. plug everything in and wahbam! you got yourself a system that'll last you a good 3-4 years!
CSHawkeye81
06-15-02, 05:51 PM
yeah i build more amd systems for ppl but if they are a noob or one of those ppl you just wanna make them happy then i go with intel.
jdmcnudgent
06-15-02, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by CSHawkeye81
yeah i build more amd systems for ppl but if they are a noob or one of those ppl you just wanna make them happy then i go with intel. make me go intel.:beer:
Wallacebw
06-15-02, 07:41 PM
HMMMM post a vote between AMD and INTEL in the INTEL FORUM... thats fair..:D
BTW my answer is intel:p
Brian
CSHawkeye81
06-15-02, 09:23 PM
why should i you are already there.
I've always owned intel and I just trust them a lot.... They've always been stable and had decent overclocks... I just have it in my head that when I buy Intel I'm buying a quality chip. When I think of AMD I still think of the K5 and K6 days, although I know they've come a long way since then....
goodolamd
06-16-02, 08:06 AM
personally i vote for the girl in jdmcnudgent avatar
:D
seriously I will only use Amd untill they pull a Willamette on me like Intel did.Im surprised everyone has forgotten about that.
CSHawkeye81
06-16-02, 10:00 AM
same here, who is she???
jdmcnudgent
06-16-02, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by CSHawkeye81
same here, who is she??? her name is leann, and she is the best looking model from the fredricks of hollywood catalog. she is soooooo hott. she is also a fitness instructor from a old show called fitness beach.:D
Darryl_D
06-16-02, 10:58 AM
lol jd is stalking her! Don't you got a wife jd???
Rasputin'sLiver
06-16-02, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Darryl_D
lol jd is stalking her! Don't you got a wife jd???
You know he has 2 kids from the fathers day thread where you called us grandpas! But who needs a wife anyway especially if you can have the Fredericks model!:burn:
jdmcnudgent
06-16-02, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Darryl_D
lol jd is stalking her! Don't you got a wife jd??? yes, that is my wife.:D
Darryl_D
06-16-02, 11:38 AM
yes, that is my wife. then i should probably tell you she's been sleepin around with me :D .... what was this thread for again? oh yes intel vs amd..... hmmm yea.... GO INTEL GO!!!!
CSHawkeye81
06-16-02, 12:52 PM
ROFL :D
Rasputin'sLiver
06-16-02, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
yes, that is my wife.:D
OT, I know, but do you think those are real? In any event they are spectacular!;)
Darryl_D
06-16-02, 04:14 PM
ewwwwww gramps your waaaaayyyy too old to be lookin' at those!
Rasputin'sLiver
06-16-02, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Darryl_D
ewwwwww gramps your waaaaayyyy too old to be lookin' at those!
Go to your room, sonny.:mad:
jdmcnudgent
06-16-02, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Rasputin'sLiver
OT, I know, but do you think those are real? In any event they are spectacular!;) yes, they are real, real nice.:D i seriously think that they are, and if they are not, would you care?:D
Caffinehog
06-16-02, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Darryl_D
lol jd is stalking her! Don't you got a wife jd???
Can I stalk her too?:)
Rasputin'sLiver
06-16-02, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
yes, they are real, real nice.:D i seriously think that they are, and if they are not, would you care?:D
Nahhhh, not in the slightest! I'd love to be the one to test their authenticity though......:burn:
Rasputin'sLiver
06-16-02, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Caffinehog
Can I stalk her too?:)
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Nice avatar, bro!:cool:
I really liked my p4 untill I strted folding:D
Malakai
06-16-02, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by gipat
I really liked my p4 untill I strted folding:D
lol, thats my main AMD hook, those FPU's are unstoppable
lol, thats my main AMD hook, those FPU's are unstoppable My main AMD hook was the DDR, and I'm glad I have gotten to experience it. This system kills my 1.1a hands down. I was looking at the 1.6a, but the system would have been too much for my budget (I got this mobo, chip and DDR for $224.00 shipped). Plus, I don't know what Intel has up their sleeve, and I would rather wait on the evolution of the P4 than to get caught in the middle of the developement. RDRAM wouldv'e been nice, but I am very happy so far with the out-of-box stability that this AMD system has shown. I didn't expect quite so much, so it was a very pleasant surprise. I will probably build an Intel system again around the first of the year, but right now I have 2.4GHz+ performance, and I hardly spent anything at all! I'm happy :D
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