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What exactly is needed to RMA an intel p4? I've heard that both the retail box upc and the heatsink fan are required to RMA the cpu.
Please let me know,
Steven
jdmcnudgent
06-23-02, 02:57 PM
good luck, they are you gonna give you the third degree. but the box and fan.:D
jazztrumpet216
06-23-02, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
good luck, they are you gonna give you the third degree. but the box and fan.:D
They do ask you some questions about how you've found that the processor is defective and perhaps if you've overclocked it but they don't put your butt on the barbie about it. I RMA'd a PIII a while back and they were fairly nice about it; I told them what was wrong and they told me to ship it back. I had a replacement PIII Coppermine-T in 2 days. All in all, Intel has the best RMA department I've seen yet. Box, fan, and anything else that came with it... they prefer it as close to how you bought it as possible but box and fan should be fine, just make sure the CPU is protected.
OK thanks for the info. Looks like I wont be buying a processor off of somebody then.
-Steven
jdmcnudgent
06-23-02, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
They do ask you some questions about how you've found that the processor is defective and perhaps if you've overclocked it but they don't put your butt on the barbie about it. I RMA'd a PIII a while back and they were fairly nice about it; I told them what was wrong and they told me to ship it back. I had a replacement PIII Coppermine-T in 2 days. All in all, Intel has the best RMA department I've seen yet. Box, fan, and anything else that came with it... they prefer it as close to how you bought it as possible but box and fan should be fine, just make sure the CPU is protected. well, they grilled me, and i knew why the cpu was not working, a pin broke off, and i played dumb on the phone, and when they got the cpu, i got a new one back in 2 days, next day air.:D
jazztrumpet216
06-23-02, 05:07 PM
OK, all they did for me was ask what the computer did upon boot up and if we'd done anything to determine that it was the processor. He just said it sounded like the L2 cache and gave me an RMA number. Oh well. I'm sure they have many techs there and everyone goes about their job differently. Either way, box and fan.
oRIDDLERo
11-28-02, 01:32 AM
Damn My 2.66 just died! only had it at 1.7v Do they replace your CPU with a OEM piece of junk? Im going to miss this chip it was great to me. One day apps just started flacking, it degraded over 3 days and no longer can boot past the bios. Even with the clock down to 2.0Ghz and defaul all the way around!
AntmanMike
11-28-02, 02:23 AM
They told me I only needed to send the CPU, because they check the CPU against a database, so the box isn't required, as they already know it is a boxed CPU. They replace it with the exact same model, though a different assembly line.
UnWishedLegacy
11-28-02, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by gofastman
Damn My 2.66 just died! only had it at 1.7v Do they replace your CPU with a OEM piece of junk? Im going to miss this chip it was great to me. One day apps just started flacking, it degraded over 3 days and no longer can boot past the bios. Even with the clock down to 2.0Ghz and defaul all the way around!
PLEASE don't tell me your gonna try to RMA that thing!!? Link In Sig
Anyway- whats wrong with OEM kit- just means you dont have as much crap cluttering the place.
UnWishedLegacy
11-28-02, 02:58 AM
Steven (SS284), Many places (not just Intel) prefer EVERYTHING sent back to them- box, fan, heatsink, thermal pad, antistatic bag, social security number, passport, left kidney....... :rolleyes:
They will tell you everything you need to know when you call for an RMA number, but be as detailed (and as truthfull) as you can- like if you replaced the stock HSF with a better one, mention it, will show that you kept heat to minimum (but also shows that you go poking around your PC's guts- it s 2sided coin).
If you RMA an item for whatever reason and they find that it wasnt broken by "natural" means (assuming you overclock your chip)- you could get black-marked by Intel (and by connection- possibly other comanies too). You never know when a clean sheet will come in useful.
Good luck
BTW- what do you think killed your chip?
oRIDDLERo
11-28-02, 04:49 AM
You Clocked It...? Then You Bought It!!
LOL
No Thanks, ill have a new CPU Please.
[OC]Lucifer
11-28-02, 09:10 AM
Make us all pay for your new cpu. If you killed it by clocking, you dont deserve a new cpu!
oRIDDLERo
11-28-02, 09:23 AM
Live long and Prosper you silly Do-Gooders I am getting a new chip, If you and your thousands of other users $400 chip fries I will gladly pay the overhead caused by us burned chip RMA folk. [OC]Lucifer you should change that to [OK]nice-guy, lol
If you would like i will paypal you a penny witch will easily cover 100 fold if not 10,000 times the amount my case hurt you financially next time you buy a CPU :rolleyes:
...Only the strong survive, get with the program.
Caffinehog
11-28-02, 09:48 AM
My paypal address is barchok@uakron.edu.
I'll be waiting.
Truth is, if you killed it yourself, RMA'ing it is no different than stealing it. If intel got really ****y, they could probably charge you with a minor misdemeanor. Food for thought.
I know it's disappointing when you buy something that everyone else is getting to go a mile, and it dies before you can get it that far. But this is one of the hazards of overclocking. If you don't want to take that risk, don't overclock. And you can reduce that risk if you simply don't try to push it to its max.
oRIDDLERo
11-28-02, 10:04 AM
If I had the time to program a web app that could paypal a penny to each of the users on this board who bitch and moan about RMA’s and overclocking (No New Members, and proof of purchase of a new processor required) I would do it in a second (up to say $200 max say for safety purposes ) I am sure I could recruit a few pennies from other who are tired of hearing this same old story. :rolleyes:
I bet all you outgoing “you break it you buy it” folk are actually in the closet, and would happily bring their Geforce card back to comp USA after the memory failed somehow after a “Safe” 2 MHz Overclock rationalizing with: It was only 2 MHz… “It should have been specked to that speed anyway” in your minds. :eek:
In my opinion I feel this subject is best left untouched. Those that RMA, know what they are doing and just don’t care. :argue: Your badmouthing them is not going to change anything. A misdemeanor is not food for thought for me, it is more like a humorous consideration.. :beer:
Anyway enough ranting from me, time to go eat thanksgiving dinner. I Don’t mean to make enemies as I am sure we all work better together as a collective, yet I am tired of the lip service from all you who wish to appear to be made of gold.
Burning Phoenix
11-28-02, 11:25 AM
I'm sure you read the arguement in the other thread about RMAing so you know how i feel.
They sure the hell are not going to lose any money!
When i RMAed my last P4 which was a year ago they only asked how i knew it was bad. I told them i tried it on another working system. Simple! No third degree. They only requested the cpu and said the heatsink and fan were not required for return. So guess what i now have an extra heatsink and fan. The return was very quick as mentioned above. I buy everything Retail boxed for the 3 year warranty rather than OEM 1 year.
UnWishedLegacy
11-28-02, 12:33 PM
from CaffineHog (from the linked thread)
One of our founding fathers said it best. "Those who value their privilages over their principles will soon lose both."
Shuttle no longer accepts RMA's, it's up to the reseller to eat the cost.
Hard drive warrenties are down from three years to one year.
The way things are going, it will soon be, "You bought it, it's yours."
Were you one of those people who said "What the **** are they thinking?" when IBM decided to reduce warrenty periods with no reduction in the retail cost?
Will you whine when an RMA consists of 5 premium rate phone calls, a full, written explanation & description of your system, a 2week wait for your replacement which will end up being a refurbished chip from Mr Dell's reject pile?
if you answered YES to these question- then GET OVER IT!!
Its YOUR fault that we are all being penalised. And if you have a spare $200 to pay-pal "each of the users on this board who bitch and moan about RMA’s and overclocking" then why bother pleading innocent to Intel- you could BUY a bigger and better chip and use your burned out one as a paperweight/ornament.
RMA by all means- but at tell them how much you fried it before your system went down on you!
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jazztrumpet216
11-28-02, 12:43 PM
I'm sick of seeing all of this. For God's sakes this was a thread from June, why on God's green earth was this resurrected? This is another damn debate with the O.E.M. and it's time enough some of us shut our mouths rather than try and impress our values upon others. It will not change their minds and only leads to flame wars. The sig links show where YOU stand on the issue and that's all that is necessary. We are not a police force.
So please, EVERYBODY, for the sake of my sanity, LET THIS THREAD DIE.
Johnny Knoxville
11-28-02, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by T.Toy
Were you one of those people who said "What the **** are they thinking?" when IBM decided to reduce warrenty periods with no reduction in the retail cost?
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Western digital and maxtor reduced warranties, don't think IBM did
If you want to RMA a chip you overclocked then do it, i personally think it's wrong, but people shouldn't be harrassing you. :rolleyes:
kamilkluczewski
11-28-02, 12:54 PM
Lets not have another "war" about this topic, why argue? The thread began about whats needed to RMA a chip. All you need is the chip, cooked, uncooked whatever. Thats all you need, call the Intel guys, tell em what h'append and get your new one. PERIOD!
But do let us know what you get and how it OC's ;).
Peace,
Kam
oRIDDLERo
11-28-02, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by kamilkluczewski
Lets not have another "war" about this topic, why argue? The thread began about whats needed to RMA a chip. All you need is the chip, cooked, uncooked whatever. Thats all you need, call the Intel guys, tell em what h'append and get your new one. PERIOD!
But do let us know what you get and how it OC's ;).
Peace,
Kam
Mods, Apologies for the small good vs. evil battle… LOL let the thread die, as long as the angels know where I stand
UnWishedLegacy
11-28-02, 01:46 PM
As much as I loath to back down- Jazz has a point, It should have occured to me when I noticed that after GoFast's post- the thread starter didnt post anything else. I never look at the dates- but now that I have, everything clicked... the thread was ressurected by GoFastMan for the purpose of starting a flame war with the stupid members of OEM (namely ME) that would retaliate.
This goes to show that we (O.E.M) NEED a code of conduct about these things.
New thread to come- keep 'em peeled.
kamilkluczewski
11-28-02, 02:16 PM
So then AMEN to that. God bless our differences and lets get overclookin!!!
The End.
oRIDDLERo
11-29-02, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by T.Toy
the thread was ressurected by GoFastMan for the purpose of starting a flame war with the stupid members of OEM (namely ME) that would retaliate.
I am truly sorry but I could not let this one go…
I have never and will likely never bring a post back to life to start a flame war. I simply could not search for the word “RMA” because it is only 3 characters (I really hate this search rule… ever try searching for 2.66, 3.01, RMA, Hot, Etc?) I simply Entered the forum and kept scanning the pages one at a time until I found An RMA thread myself that I felt could use a little more info on the subject
Case Closed.
gofastman is entitled to his rightful opinion and should be not be flamed for it. If he purchased the processor and it's still under warranty, he can RMA it if he choses to do so (given that Intel complies with his request).
Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
I'm sure you read the arguement in the other thread about RMAing so you know how i feel.
They sure the hell are not going to lose any money!
When i RMAed my last P4 which was a year ago they only asked how i knew it was bad. I told them i tried it on another working system. Simple! No third degree. They only requested the cpu and said the heatsink and fan were not required for return. So guess what i now have an extra heatsink and fan. The return was very quick as mentioned above. I buy everything Retail boxed for the 3 year warranty rather than OEM 1 year.
I'm loving it guys. keep telling how your screwing "the man"
You think Intel security does not monitor these forums. :rolleyes: :D
I resolve to just laugh at you guys who pull this stunt in the future. You all know where I stand. :D :D :eek:
Tell us more boys!! :eek:
oRIDDLERo
11-30-02, 05:07 AM
Member of the Anti-Unethical Overclockers Army! :rolleyes:
So Intel why not attempt to do something about it... Get a court order to obtain my IP, then do the same to obtain my Contact info from My ISP Account, then legally attempt to match the ISP account name then prove that an individual user of that household RMAed a chip with Intel (that was proven overclocked beyond a reasonable doubt of course... (hey it could have been a power surge that increased that voltage) Have Fun, hey that was my other 2.66 system I was talking about on the forums guys) Have fun trying to prove I did.
Estimated Cost to Intel for time for physical and technical investigation in addition to legal fees per case... Hmmm around $5000 minimum (Just an estimated guess) per case compared to the $200 it cost to make the chip... Not good business.
Cost for the family lawyer to defend against some lame misdemeanor should the need arise: $500-$1000 hell I would probably just plead guilty with no attorney and pay the fine... lol
An army is supposed to accomplish tasks in an organized fashion, it seems all you do is make lame flame posts... I think the old saying fit perfect here: "A penny for you thoughts", or perhaps "A penny for your loss" LOL!!!
As some of your own members would say: “it's time enough some of us shut our mouths rather than try and impress our values upon others”
Let the Thread die, ill buy you an ice cream with sprinkles. lol
P.S. at this point I think it may be my MB that died so there might not even be an Intel RMA. :beer:
Or i guess ill just RMA it if i have to in enter Jim Bakers name down the street to avoid any possible connection to my IP then so be it. ;)
[OC]Lucifer
11-30-02, 11:29 AM
Lets not start this again. Stop atagonizing each other, agree to disagree, and change the subject ok??
Johnny Knoxville
11-30-02, 11:36 AM
all OEM do is start flamewars :rolleyes:
jazztrumpet216
11-30-02, 11:43 AM
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! :mad: :argue: :mad: :argue:
WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ISSUE UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER AND IT WON'T GET US ANYWHERE, SO KNOCK IT OFF, EVERYBODY!
oRIDDLERo
11-30-02, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by jazztrumpet216
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! :mad: :argue: :mad: :argue:
WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ISSUE UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER AND IT WON'T GET US ANYWHERE, SO KNOCK IT OFF, EVERYBODY!
AGREED LOL
[OC]Lucifer
11-30-02, 12:36 PM
And I challenge anyone to find a thread where I started a flame war. :) I havent, and never will.
oRIDDLERo
11-30-02, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by [OC]Lucifer
Make us all pay for your new cpu. If you killed it by clocking, you dont deserve a new cpu!
We will be the judges of “what we deserve"
DONE.
Originally posted by gofastman
We will be the judges of “what we deserve"
DONE.
:D :D :D :D
William
11-30-02, 04:14 PM
The discussion of anything illegal is prohobited on the forums including RMAing overclocked components, which regardless of your stance on it, is illegal.
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Originally posted by gofastman
We will be the judges of “what we deserve"
DONE.
And don't go around starting ****. We all know why you brought this thread back from June.
This IS a private forum. What the administration says goes....no questions asked.
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