2.2 or 2.26?

[SoL]

I am going to use a Innovatek water cooler on my next system. Will an overclocked 2.2 with RDRAM run faster than an overclocked 2.26 with DDR? I'm shooting for 3-3.2 GHZ.

Is it true that RDRAM isnt stable when you're running over 150 mhz fsb? The 2.26 will be in the 170 range.

Which motherboard and ram speed will work best?

Thanks,
SoL

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[pacino]

Originally posted by SoL
I am going to use a Innovatek water cooler on my next system. Will an overclocked 2.2 with RDRAM run faster than an overclocked 2.26 with DDR? I'm shooting for 3-3.2 GHZ.

Is it true that RDRAM isnt stable when you're running over 150 mhz fsb? The 2.26 will be in the 170 range.

Which motherboard and ram speed will work best?

Thanks,
SoL

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First off, WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here we go:
- 2.26B for sure.
- Abit BD7II or Asus P4B533.
- Corsair xms 3000 DDR.

Heard, seen & tested these combos, amazing results, needles to say what people were reporting here with'em :) .. Good LUCK!

[pacino]

ooops, 4got to answer one more query, YES, RDRAM starts to hold you back @ 120~125FSB .. DDR will be the best choice if you're overclockin' this baby :)

[SoL]

Cool thanks, any more opinions on this? And how much better would it be if I went with the 2.4 533 mhz fsb?

Thanks,
SoL

[SoL]

Ohh and I'm curious, you having a 2.2 running at 3.2, what would be the advatages if you had a 2.26 instead?

Thanks,
SoL

[pacino]

Originally posted by SoL
Ohh and I'm curious, you having a 2.2 running at 3.2, what would be the advatages if you had a 2.26 instead?

Thanks,
SoL

Faster FSB:

2.2 = 22 x 100 = 2200Mhz
2.26 = 17 x 133 = 2261mhz

I got my 2.2 when northwoods ever first came out, I think I'm lucky to have it this high, and maybe kuz of my cooling (CPU is always in subzero temps) ..

[Turbo]

Well my RDRAM aint holding me back, but I'd love to see how well a DDR system would fare against my system at the same fsb. I'm getting 3034 Mhz (178 Mhz fsb) stable on air with RDRAM at 3x with my 2.26 cpu. SiSandra mem scores are in the 37xx/37xx range and the default 3dmark2001se score is quite a bit over 14k, so I don't feel my RDRAM is holding me back. Rather on the contrary IMO. I don't know if you guys are 3dmark haters or lovers :D but regardless, if you take a look at the top 50, you'll see a LOT of Abit TH7-II's (with RDRAM) in there.

[jdmcnudgent]

heres what you do, now this is only my opinion, but, if you want ddr, get the 2.26b chip, but if you want RDRAM, got with the p4t533-c mobo, and the 2.2a. now here is the tricky part, you need a real lucky 2.2a to get to your goal, 137 fsb, to hit 3.0 gig. get either 2x128 sticks, or 2x256 pc 800 RDRAM, and go from there. this board has the good drcg chips and you will more than likely be able to run the mem at 140 fsb x4 if your chip will do it, and with that mem bandwidth, you wont get it with ddr.:D

[jdmcnudgent]

Originally posted by jdmcnudgent
heres what you do, now this is only my opinion, but, if you want ddr, get the 2.26b chip, but if you want RDRAM, got with the p4t533-c mobo, and the 2.2a. now here is the tricky part, you need a real lucky 2.2a to get to your goal, 137 fsb, to hit 3.0 gig. get either 2x128 sticks, or 2x256 pc 800 RDRAM, and go from there. this board has the good drcg chips and you will more than likely be able to run the mem at 140 fsb x4 if your chip will do it, and with that mem bandwidth, you wont get it with ddr.:D we tried the setup mentioned in the quote, and the 2.2 maxed out at 125 fsb, and needed ungodly v core to get there. you will need a real lucky 2.2 to get it up.:(

[Placid]

Originally posted by Turbo
Well my RDRAM aint holding me back, but I'd love to see how well a DDR system would fare against my system at the same fsb. I'm getting 3034 Mhz (178 Mhz fsb) stable on air with RDRAM at 3x with my 2.26 cpu. SiSandra mem scores are in the 37xx/37xx range and the default 3dmark2001se score is quite a bit over 14k, so I don't feel my RDRAM is holding me back. Rather on the contrary IMO. I don't know if you guys are 3dmark haters or lovers :D but regardless, if you take a look at the top 50, you'll see a LOT of Abit TH7-II's (with RDRAM) in there.

Here is a ddr board at about the same speed as you.

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3397065

Comparing with trusted freinds I find rdram gives about 300 more points in 3dmark when as close to identical as possible systems are used.

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Placid


Here is a ddr board at about the same speed as you.

http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3397065

Comparing with trusted freinds I find rdram gives about 300 more points in 3dmark when as close to identical as possible systems are used.

Yeah that's a really good score there. But really it's a bit of comparing apples and oranges. At this cpu speed overclocking on the GF4 gives a significant increase in speed, and mine'll only do 320/740, while this guy is at 347/781. For reference overclocking my GF4 from 300/650 to 320/740 gives almost 1000 points extra with my cpu at 3034 Mhz, while overclocking the cpu from 2900 Mhz to 3034 gives only about 200 points. However I agree that differences are slim once DDR hits 200+ Mhz.

I like what you say about "trusted" friends, I feel the same way about comparing benchmark results. Anyway here's my result, which is very similar I might add :D http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3780590 I can't wait to get a NV30....... :p

[PhobMX]

Hi ppl, im after the very same means sol does, so i just wanna point out if i understood well all this talk.

2.26--> RDR pc800 samsung oc'ed @ pc1066 or either buy pc1066???
2.2--> DDR whatever...

I wanna go after RDR cuz thats the point of pentium 4 (well, thats what i think). After some research ive chosen also Abit TH7II (no raid cuz im fine with ATA 100), but i wont get the water cooling kit right now, im about to spend $1450 on a whole new computer so i can't afford that baby atm :( . Thats why i want to know if i cant get the money for pc1066s, would it be acceptable (and without risk) to just buy pc800 and oc em, ive heard people that has huge ocs with this method succesfuly.

My point is that im a little short on money, so i have to stick to the cpu stock fan for a little while. I'm not stupid, i wont oc the cpu to 3ghz with it, but 200 or 300 Mhz would be just swell for the mean while. Also, i asume i also have to buy an extra outake fan for the case, am i right??

Ohh, this might sound stupid, but is it worth the extra money to use that artic silver thingy??? Cuz i might use it only once, with this cpu.


Thnx for your time

P.S.: Yes, im an oc n00b :p , but sure ive read quite a bit. I dont even know how to mount a cpu on to the mobo :D , Well i have a friend that will help me to do that :)