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Im having a hard time decideing between an X800 and a 6800GT... I get both are good. Some people say the X800 will bet better ratings at 1280x1024 hands down... Advice?
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sevendevilhell said:nvidia is like the AMD of the video card market: slightly better architecture, better overclockers, and better innovation on the technology. but the company just isn't quite as organized as its competitor, so they fall behind in the business race.
Nephewkp said:Perhaps you could wait til the x850 is released. I am sure an ati card with 16 pipelines will kill nvidia in terms of performance.
Sentential said:in OpenGL. nV romps ATi in all catagories by a factor of 2 fold in OpenGL games.
.Your call
Sentential said:Its really your call. ATi and nV both have their stregnths and weaknesses. Example:
-nV-
(Pros)
*Better chip yeild, ie better overclocker
*The most balanced GPU on the market
*Best drivers on the planet
*Most stable / free of graphical glitches
*"TWIMTBP" "The Way its meant to be played" (game company agreements that optimized for nV hardware)
*Fantastic OpenGL support
*Digital Vibrace (colors look sharp and fantastic...almost surreal)
* Ultra-shadow II (helps in games with high number of shadows)
*Pixel Shader 3.0
(Cons)
*High power draw
*High heat
*IQ is inferior to ATI unless modified with drivers
* Too Balanced to the point where it hurts peformance. (never is much faster or slower than ATi)
* IQ issues with shadows (also fixable)
* Slower when used with AA / AINSO (another IQ issue)
ATi
(Pros)
*Best IQ...hands down
*Blistering fast even with high levels of AA / AINSO
*Temporal Anti-alaising (doubles AA with no peformance loss, *ie removes jaggies)
*Low power and heat
*Extrodinarly fast in DirectX
(Cons)
*Poor driver stability
*Extremely bad yeilds and poor overclockers (especially bad on RAM)
*More Expensive
*Horrible OpenGL support (1/2 as fast as nV in games like Quake4 and Doom3 and KOTR2)
*No pixel or vertex 3.0 support whatsoever
*Poor stock cooling
Sentential said:(Cons) *Poor driver stability
Sentential said:Its really your call. ATi and nV both have their stregnths and weaknesses. Example:
-nV-
(Pros)
*Better chip yeild, ie better overclocker please clarify.
*Best drivers on the planet
*Most stable / free of graphical glitches
*"TWIMTBP" "The Way its meant to be played" (game company agreements that optimized for nV hardware)yet in many cases, ATI cards beat the NV cards in TWIMTBP games...including UT2004
(Cons)
*High power draw
*High heat
*IQ is inferior to ATI unless modified with drivers please clarify.
* IQ issues with shadows (also fixable) please clarify....I mean, you say that nVidia drivers are the best, and are free of graphical glitchs, are you now saying they need work?
ATi
(Pros)
*Best IQ...hands down
*Blistering fast even with high levels of AA / AINSO
*Temporal Anti-alaising (doubles AA with no peformance loss, *ie removes jaggies)
*Low power and heat
*Extrodinarly fast in DirectX
(Cons)
*Poor driver stability please clarify...how can ATI have the best IQ, yet poor driver stability? are you saying the drivers don't alow the games to run?
*Extremely bad yeilds and poor overclockers (especially bad on RAM) please clarify.
*More Expensive again, please clarify. don't just make false claims. I'm watching this one closely.
*Horrible OpenGL support (1/2 as fast as nV in games like Quake4 and Doom3 and KOTR2) first off, only the x800 cards have "tripple buffering" in OpenGL, the 6800's do not. thier is no way your going to tell me that my in game framerate with Doom3 was 100% slower then yours. you know what I was getting, I know what you were. please clarify, or give examples.
*Poor stock cooling please clarify.
As I said before.....OpenGL and DirectX are completely different engines. nVidia is FAR faster in OpenGL games like Doom, and KOTR, and Neverwinternights. ATi is faster in DirectX, its as simple as thatwanab said:thats 2 times in back to back posts that you claim Nvidia is 100% faster yet the tests show about 20% or less advantage.
/me thinks i smell something.
can anybody guess?
...try 6 months ago. My 9800PRO had all sorts of stability problems playing games like America's Army, Call of Duty, and Farcry. All went away once I got my 6800GTCalsonicGTR said:How many years ago was this? ATI has had top notch drivers for their products for some time. nVidia's drivers havent been WHQL approved for some time now, so I fail to see how they are that much superior to ATI's (at least in the Windows world)
. Yes thats what Im saying. ATi drivers from my expericne are buggy as hell.mica said:are you saying the drivers don't alow the games to run?
Sentential said:...try 6 months ago. My 9800PRO had all sorts of stability problems playing games like America's Army, Call of Duty, and Farcry. All went away once I got my 6800GT
Sentential said:*Extremely bad yeilds and poor overclockers (especially bad on RAM) batboy's x800XT coudlnt even do PE speeds
Sentential said:*More Expensive GameVE and newegg have the prices of GTs significantally lower than the x800PROs. I have yet to see 5 PROs that cost under $380. Ive seen almost a dozen GTs taht do
Sentential said:*Poor stock cooling Look at how wimpy their cooling is! ATi has *never* been know for their excelent stock cooling solutions. Come on lol . The only decent HSF ive seen ATi put out is the one they have on the x850XT, and it needs it