if you are thinkin of the ones on newegg definetly get the 1800+. they are the new tbred A stepping AIUGA whereas the 1700+ are the old AIRGA.... the 1800+ with the new stepping overclocks a little higher.
this is just a guess from readin other ppls posts on this and various boards (cause i have never used a tbred before only palominos) bt w/ the 1700+ and air cooling maybe 1850mhz and w/ the 1800+ and air cooling a little over 2ghz.
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