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get the 9500pro and the ram it's the best coice don't waste any extra money on the 9700 when you can overclock it to those speeds and more
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Purchasing Card Today 4600 or 9700
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OC Noob said:
a SINGLE number in the BIOS was different...it was 44 instead of 45 i believe. He comapired the 9500 Pro BIOS, to the 9700 Pro BIOS, say the different number, changed it, and BAM, overclockable 9500 Pro. Check it out at the Rage3D forums under the "Radeon tweaking and overclocking" section...its a sticky
pip said:
But u still dont get the performance of the 9700 at the same clock speeds
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Evnas said:
Cool!
About the 9700 and 9500 pro. I agree. You can't O/C the 9500 pro's bus from 128 bit to 256 bit so the 9700 is still a solid card that won't be outperformed by the 9500 pro, but is the gain in performance worth the extra dough...thats your call.
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I tell you what, I have the 9700 Pro, in fact I was the first person on MO in the US and Europe to have one and post a score with it (I paid $446.95 for that luxury, which I could get a 9700 AIW with now) for you to have a 2000+ and 512DDR to get 10k is rediculous. With my 1700+ and 256mb PC3200 (clocked at PC2700 due to older motherboard) at CAS3 everything stock speeds I got damn near 13k
Btw new Catalyst 3.0 drivers are awesome, and now with the release of a full version of DirectX 9.0 the hardware support for it just makes me smile.
Btw new Catalyst 3.0 drivers are awesome, and now with the release of a full version of DirectX 9.0 the hardware support for it just makes me smile.
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1. your geforce2 pro is a fine card. why even upgrade that? I have a geforce2mx and a geforce2 pro would be considered a heck of a fine upgrade!
2. forget overclocking the radeons there locked!
3. if your gonna get a new card get the 64mb geforce4 ti4200 its only $120 or so and about 50% faster than a geforce2 pro if neither cards are OCed.
4. get a 512mb stick, youll thank me by saving your last dimm slot. and I think 512mb is now cheaper than two 256mb sticks
2. forget overclocking the radeons there locked!
3. if your gonna get a new card get the 64mb geforce4 ti4200 its only $120 or so and about 50% faster than a geforce2 pro if neither cards are OCed.
4. get a 512mb stick, youll thank me by saving your last dimm slot. and I think 512mb is now cheaper than two 256mb sticks
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1. A 9700 would be 2-3x times faster, with DX9 support to boot.
A 9500 would not be far behind.
2. Apparently you can... if you update the bios with a hacked one, see WARP11's posts at www.rage3d.com
3. Of course your right, BUT when you go to crank up the AA and Ansio, it will die, the ATI 9500-9700s don't. Also he stated he only wants to run at 1024x resolution, so the added eye candy the Radeons can throw into the mix would be much better for him.
4. Also right...
I basically disagree with your video card choice though.
A 9500 would not be far behind.
2. Apparently you can... if you update the bios with a hacked one, see WARP11's posts at www.rage3d.com
3. Of course your right, BUT when you go to crank up the AA and Ansio, it will die, the ATI 9500-9700s don't. Also he stated he only wants to run at 1024x resolution, so the added eye candy the Radeons can throw into the mix would be much better for him.
4. Also right...
I basically disagree with your video card choice though.
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Just wait till February and grab a Geforce FX, at least that's what I'm doing. 
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dreamtfk said:Just wait till February and grab a Geforce FX, at least that's what I'm doing.
And then be out-trumped by the R350 a month later
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Overclocker550 said:
1. umm, have you played any newer games? see how well a Geforce2 Pro handles UT2003 or Rallisport Challenge, even MOHAA and Americas Army give it trouble....I know because i had one....and the 8500/Geforce3 cards are almost twice as fast as a Geforce2 Pro, a 9500Pro would be approaching 3-4 times the performance
2. as has been said, this is easily fix
3. decent card but a 9500Pro runs a LOT better with AA and Aniso making yur games beautiful
4. sure
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AKDUDE said:
1. no games utilize the extra features and for speed he said he only runs 1024x768. right. ill run my games in 1600x1200 or higher and get like 200fps(once I get a faster cpu lol)
2. hacked bios? hmmmm "hacked" sounds so dirty. youd void your warrenty and may also compromize stability.
3. who needs AA it just blurs the edges. hi res rules, always did always will unless your stuck with a puny 15" LCD or monitor LOL
4. we all agree
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Overclocker550 said:
1) If u think u can run 200fps in any game with a GF2, ur very sadly mistaken, no matter how fast ur CPU is.
2) Ive got the BIOS on my 9500 Pro...runs 100% stable and the card overclocks quite nicely
3) High res just makes everything smaller...anything higher then 1280x1024 is to small IMO...and thats also the highest my 17" monitor can do (its 6 years old now, hehe)
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Overclocker550 said:
1. I highly doubt that a Geforce2 Pro can run Ut2003 at 1024x768 with high detail settings, forget DoomIII and other games in the future..
2. if you overclock, you can flash a bios
3. exactly, i have a 17" monitor and at 1280x1024 (my highest res) i only have a 60hz refresh rate, i would rather run it at 1024 with AA on if i can still use VSYNC and have no tearing with high fps
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how times have changed. quake3 is kinda an old game, a tnt can run 1024x768 in 16 bit color smoothly. for 32bit, a tnt2u does the job. a geforce2 pro does 1600x1200x32 bit color at 50fps. I should get ut2003 or what about unreal2, is that game out too?
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Overclocker550 said:
lol....indeed and i am very happy....after playing UT2003 QIIII looks like crap lol...and i think Unreal 2 will be out in february
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Yeah Unreal II will be a sweet game, looks like it has nice graphics too Yep, should be out on 2/4/2003.
Yep, should be out on 2/4/2003.
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Overclocker550 said:
1. I understand about the features, but however, many DX8 games are coming out, and are out, and the GF2 isn't even a DX8 card....
I don't you will run games at 1600x with a GF2 at 200FPS...
2. Its not that hard... we are hard core modders, flashing a bios is childs play... ask any kid on this forum.
3. AA does not "blur" the edges on a Radeon card, it only makes them crisper and less jagged. 2D and 3D quality are a step above the GF2/3 cards, especially with AA and Ansio turned on. TO see a game like BF1942, running at maxed details, @1200 or 1600x, with all the eye candy turned on is amazing.
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so a geforce3 is the real directx8 supported card? wont newer drivers give directx8 to old cards anyway, at least in software emulation?
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