YMMV , several people have been picking up the Radeon 9600se from B&M Best Buys and they have 9600pro's in the box. Also comes with a free half-life 2 when it comes out. I picked one up today and it is a 9600pro in my box. BTW, the Best Buy here didn't even have a spot on the shelf for the 9600se , they had just got them in and they were in a pile on top so you may have to look for them.