550e@733 or c700@1000, which is better?

Hi, I have been running a 550e at 733 on my msi 6309. just bought a c700 for a friend (who wont oc) and was wondering how it would run in my 6309. runs perfect at 95x10.5 at 1.7 default voltage. Only thing is pci bus is 32mhz, mem is 126mhz, agp 64mhz. was wondering which chip I should keep. also tried the celery at 100x10.5 . it would boot but would give me errors before desktop appeared at 1.75 voltage. how high is safe with cpu temp hovering around 35c.

i had a celery 700 and i couldnt get it past 876, i now have a 550 PIII and the speed difference (faster) is clearly noticable. there was a rough equation that said like this: PIII700 = C1000, which means a p3 700 is about equal to a celeron 1 ghz (which hasnt been invented yet), but if u can get the 550 upto 733 then go for it, it will be faster, because of the cache, which is 4x greater and PIIIs are high end compared to celerons, and 35 is a great WORKING temp for a celeron, but idle? cooking it on the stove would just make what would happen come sooner (AKA way to hot for idle)
hope this helped

I thought the p111e only had 256k cache, 2 times a celery?

When the 566 celly first came out, firingsquad did a comparison.
A celly566@952 was slower than a p3 650e, in ALL TESTS.
Dont trust sandra, those numbers mean nothing.Real world performance is whats needed.
Stick to the p3.

ok, I now have the c700 running at 100x10.5 @1.9 vc. the mem is at 133 pci at 33 agp at 66. every thing is running the same. the only diff between chips is the 550e@733 has 256k cache compared to c700@1060. with 128k cache. which is faster?

stick with the PIII
but u might want to do some bench marks, i suggest SETI@Home, get a work unit, compile the whole thing, find out how long it took u with one processor, then plug the other one in and do the same, which ever one takes shorter, stick to that processor, but i suggest the PIII because it has more cache and the pIII will come out on top! id stake my limited rep on it

btw celeron700s have 128k cache, PIII550E has 512, aka 4 times more

Endeavor (Jun 24, 2001 06:49 p.m.):
btw celeron700s have 128k cache, PIII550E has 512, aka 4 times more

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550e only has 256k cache

the way it goes is that a celeron is usually about as fast as a p3 clocked 15-200mhz slower except in sandra which is a load of crap for benchmarking.
so the celly at 1ghz will be as fast as an 800-850mhz p3, now are you sure the 550 will only overclock to 733mhz as if you could get that up to 800mhz then it would probabally be faster due to the extra bus speed, if you have a 150mhz fsb then this would give 825mhz which would make the p3 a better option, thats if the chip will do it as it is likely a cA2 core which can be a pain to overclock.

gdog (Jun 24, 2001 02:46 p.m.):
When the 566 celly first came out, firingsquad did a comparison.
A celly566@952 was slower than a p3 650e, in ALL TESTS.
Dont trust sandra, those numbers mean nothing.Real world performance is whats needed.
Stick to the p3.

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haha. is someone on crack here. phil is is about on the dot with his numbers. my celly 566@954 runs aboout on par or faster than my friends p3 800 in about everything.

Sandra's figures are stupid, it's like they just look at your cpu clock speed and make a number from it. 10 seconds to benchmark a cpu and it gets the same numbers almost everytime? come one it can't be doing much.
What I said about the -150-200mhz thing is one of the reasons I recomend p3's over a celeron sometimes, with the celeron 800 and p3 so closely matched in price you then have to turn to performance, and the 700 whips the celeron everytime, you get a 33-50% overclock from the p3 and only a 20-33% from the 800, so at the max and min overclocks you are looking at about a 10-20% speed increase for the p3 over the celeron, and at about the same price differance as well plus you get to run at spec bus speed or slightly over where as the celeron usualy ends up below the 133mhz fsb