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    Ocabiltiy of a Intel Pentium M 745 1.8 GHz, 400MHz FSB, on-die 2MB L2 Cache

    Model# BXM80536GC1800F
    Item # N82E16819111160
    Specifications:
    Model: Intel Pentium M
    Core: Dothan
    Operating Frequency: 1.8GHz
    FSB: 400MHz
    Cache: L1/32K+32K; L2/ 2MB
    Voltage: 0.956V-1.052V
    Process: 0.09Micron
    Socket: Socket 478
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2


    I'm thinking that if the pin trick can work for this (like it does for the other p4 m's) and make it automatically at 200mhz that this baby would BE SICK!!! it made on a 90nano process so that might mean TONS of heat, but if it was wc, i dunno, it sounds like a REALLY sweet chip to me.

    What do u guys think? I am really right now

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    That's a Pentium M, not a P4-M. The microarchitecture is completely different. Aside from the fact that you'd have an extremely hard time getting it to work in a standard P4 motherboard, it wouldn't overclock to the speeds you're thinking. It would probably go to 2.2Ghz on air and maybe 2.4-2.5 on more advanced cooling. This good news is that it wouldn't spew out heat at the rate a P4 does.

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    good point but even 2.4 on water it would really kick but. Think about it, it'd be better comparable to like a 3.6 to around 3.8 intel chip.
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    Well it's still an Intel chip, whether you're talking about a P4 or a P-M.

    X86-Secret overclocked a Dothan to 2.4Ghz when it first came out. The performance was indeed impressive. But the real trick is getting it to work in a desktop system with evenly matched components.

    http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/c...n/dothan-7.htm

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    wow that is pretty impressive and geez those were some low temps. Hmm it didnt really say HOW to get a dothan working on a desktop. Any ideas people?
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    if you can do it the only way i can think of is to take the socket off the mobo and make a converter like powerleap makes and reroute the pins to match the P-M pin layout... but we are talking lots of work...

    *edit*
    if you know someone that can get you one of these.... then hook me up too! someone posted this a while back i had to find it.....

    http://developer.intel.com/design/in...s/pentiumm.htm
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    do you actually own the chip?

    i read the results from the 2.4Ghz comparison awhile back - looked pretty good. If anyone can get this chip to work on a desktop board with DC memory, it will really shine. After the prescott 'debacle' (but getting better) Intel is supposed to bring these babies to the desktop in a year or so.
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    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...C-pr1c3grabb3r


    its already here... where have u been... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfarid
    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...C-pr1c3grabb3r


    its already here... where have u been... lol

    it wont fit normal desktop boards. currenty its meant for mobile computing only. some very rare expensive MuATX boards have been released for it, but nothing too serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newegg
    Voltage: 0.956V-1.052V
    Process: 0.09Micron
    Socket: Socket 478
    i thought these chips were socket 479

    The P4-M was socket 478 compatible - only lower voltages etc. I really thought these P-M would be a different socket.

    read http://www.overclockers.com/tips00593/ - i think the socket 478 from newegg is a typo
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    hmmm i dunno, maybe... ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfarid
    hmmm i dunno, maybe... ..
    where have you been
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    lol, yea i hear this guy named saaya over at xtremeresources forum is in the process of designing a bridge so that one could use a dothan on their desktop... he's like 50% done...
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    Pentium 4M != Pentium M, both in terms of socket and approach. Don't know what the PM uses as a socket, but it does maintain the same signal interface (not pinout) that the normal P4s use. You would have to do some major hackage to get it to work in a desktop board
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    not major hackage but rerouting pins would be time consuming...... A P-M is based off of the P6 core not even close to P4's core... Yes though a P-m will work with current chipsets they just need to match the PIN LAYOUT of P4's mobo's.... but why overclock one of those? you would be better going with one of the .9micron 1mb versions....

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