graphics card quandry x800pro x800xl

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

so there you have it, im pretty sure if you got a power connector on that thing and feed it more volts or the same amount as the XT it would perform like one

Lifthanger · Feb 22, 2005

one theory would be :

manufacturers give their XL cores the least possible amount of voltage.
If they would easily overclock to ~475MHz sales on the higher rated cards like the XT and the pro would go down. That's something the don't want to happen of course.

I can see the headline on ebay: "Ati X800XL Pro XT PE at 500MHz"
hand selected overclocked XLs and crap.
Well.. just some thoughts.

// sorry for being semi off topic

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

Lifthanger said:
check out post #59 and the following
link
core:400@476
mem:500@579
on MCW50-T

this is without a powerconnector

I saw that. So an X800XL with a peltier performs a little worse than an X800 Pro on air.

I'm thinking its the new manufacturing process. Name one time in the history of computing when a die-shrink went 100% smoothly.

Also, my card does a solid 595 without the voltmod.

Lifthanger · Feb 22, 2005

I just wanted to answer the question above because initially everyone thought this card is powerstarved.
Looking at the consumed wattage, I'd also say that this die shrink didn't went perfekt.

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

oh i didn't realise that it was a pelt

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

NinjaZX6R said:
I was about to ask the same exact question. Someone answer him PLEASE!

-Collin-

Why exactly are you looking for a new card if I may ask? 6800GT's on average seem to top both, or at least come real close.

Dermen · Feb 22, 2005

ZZF has the powercolor X800 XL with VIVO and power connector for $369 plus free 2nd day shipping.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320891

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

That's the same price as an X800 Pro...

pwnt by pat · Feb 22, 2005

This is all well and good but please keep in mind that I am not interested in maximum overclock, only mild one if that. This thread should be what would my money be better spent on, a car with 16 pipes stock or one that has a chance of 16 and increased performance but a chance it won't either?

However, since the XL supposedly doesn't clock very well, should I take it as far as possible with the silencer, then the pro might be the better choice, especially if it flashes to an xtpe. I just wish I could find a used one for sale but they are too new I guess.

pwnt by pat · Feb 22, 2005

or someone who would be willing to do me a favor and get me a pro at a reduced rate, maybe for my old mobile proc as an addon??? hehe

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

the regular Pros don't have a good chance of flashing to XT

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

Hehe dude, does this count as "rivaling" yout clocks?

ATiTool threw it into the 670's, then crashed, this looks stable, still very tentative, but exciting for me at least. 1.575 vgpu on air.

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

lol, i've gotten mine up to 685mhz, have you tried modding your card to 16pipes? nice OC though :thup:

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

Have tried and failed

I'll settle for the quickest x800pro on the forums for now though.

175mhz overclock...not something you see every day...

Perhaps in my dreams I'll get to torture a card like yours. :thup:

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

i take you tried the hardmod too?

Gautam · Feb 22, 2005

Yeah did try that initially in fact, 0% chance without the hardmod, but its a no-go. Late model BBATi, no chance at all. :-/

bobmanfoo · Feb 22, 2005

OIC, still a nice OC none the less

pwnt by pat · Feb 26, 2005

Kay, need an update as I'm going to order in the next day or two. x800xl vivo or x800 pro and hope to flash?

sean478 · Feb 26, 2005

dont order the best oc card would be the x800 pro vivo its precicely the same as the x800xtpe and can reach a oc of 540 core and 590 mem with stock cooling with the x800xtpe bios flashed to it and ive seen it going for 380$

pwnt by pat · Feb 26, 2005

Well, I did say that I wasn't going to be doing much of an overclock IF ANY. If I got the pro, I'd flash it for all 16 pipes and that would probably be it....

Got a link to that card and can you almost garentee it will flash?

EDIT:
Either of these it?
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...ore_Code=M&Product_Code=190526&AFFIL=FRG&NR=1
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...Sku=P262-3012&SRCCODE=GOOPROD&CMP=OTC-FROOGLE
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merc...ore_Code=M&Product_Code=190652&AFFIL=FRG&NR=1

*MUST BE PCI-E* Monarch has an "X800 pro vivo AGP" for $400.
The cooler doesn't matter as the card will be getting Tweakmonster ramsinks and either a VGA or ATI silencer, whichever doesn't do the ram...

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