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Thread: AMD X2 3800+ or 4200+???
10-04-05, 08:33 AM #1
AMD X2 3800+ or 4200+???
If you can purchase an AMD X2 3800+ and X2 4200+ at the same price $360, which one do you get beside X2 4200+ is a good deal at that price? I want to know which one is better in overclocking and overall performance since X2 3800+ has Toledo Core w/ half L2 disabled, thanks for helping!
10-04-05, 08:38 AM #2
from what ive read....
the chache makes very little difference, so go for clock speed.
now guessing the 3800 is 2.2 and the 4200 is 2.4...
i would go for the 2.4 cause even a marginal / moderate OC on that would likley be better than a moderate / respectable OC on the 2.2,
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10-04-05, 08:53 AM #3
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3800+ seems to have a better overclock potential from reading other threads.
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10-04-05, 09:03 AM #4
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If both are the same price get the 4200. Overall they OC about the same and with the 4200 you have a 11x multi so there is more flexibility when overclocking.AsRock Z97 OC Formula I7 4790K DELIDED W/CLU4.firstname.lastname@example.org 16 GB Team Xtreem 2666
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10-04-05, 09:04 AM #5
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FYI the 3800 clocks at 2.0GHz and the 4200 at 2.2GHz. They hae the same cache size. Some 3800 are toledo cores with the extra cache disabled and some are manchesters which have the the 512x2 cache to begin with. (The toledo cores may be slightly better overclockers) If you can get a 4200 for that price that is one great deal. Once you OC there would probably be no big differences between them but the 4200 would get you a higher stock speed and an 11x multi, which could come in handy. All in all it's a pretty close call. Good luck with whihever one you pick.
10-04-05, 09:48 AM #6
I say get the 3800+. If you OC you will most likely not be using the 11x mult so it won't be needed. The 3800+s are also great OCers and in the end that is what counts, not stock speed. That is unless you plan on keeping it at stock, but if you do what are you doing in an overclockers forums
10-04-05, 10:19 AM #7
where i bought my X2 4400+ (Fry's Electronics), the 3800+ was the same price as the 64 4000+ (about $370), and the 4200+ was only $20 cheaper than the 4400+(about 500)... so basically my choice was the 3800+ or the 4400+........ i chose the 4400+ because its a Toledo core and has 2x1Mb L2 cache. So, in your case if the prices for the 3800+ and the 4200+ are the same (idk why, but i doubt it) go with the 4200+..... if you can get it for $370. good luck !
10-04-05, 03:17 PM #8
$360 shipped on Retail AMD X2 4200+ is a very good deal, I guess X2 4200+ for me then hope I will be good overclocker
10-04-05, 06:15 PM #9
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10-04-05, 07:12 PM #10
On the X2 3800+ multipliers: The maximum 10x multiplier is set by the CPU not the motherboard? When I saw the 10x multiplier in the BIOS I assumed changing the BIOS might allow a multiplier over 10x, am I incorrect?
10-04-05, 07:29 PM #11
10x multiplier is applied to CPU itself not motherboard, unless you are lucky that you can find unlock multi CPU or else you have to stuck w/ 10x multiplier on X2 3800+
10-04-05, 09:35 PM #12
I'll need to research before I start overclocking. Just messing around last night I pushed the FSB to 220 at 10x and the X2 ran perfectly. I know there is a search function, but does anyone know of any information on over clocking an X2 with a DFI Ultra-D MB?
10-04-05, 10:47 PM #13
Both are pretty much the same core. Only difference is the 1x multiplier, same cache size as well.
Since that was already stated a few times in this post, I'd say go for the better core, X2 4200+. Most people get the X2 3800+ over the X2 4200+ because of price/performance ratio. Both cores are the same in terms of performance, and both can probably OC to about the same max speeds on air, so thats why most rather save the dollars and not get that 1x multiplier.
But since you can get the X2 4200+ at the same price as the X2 3800+, then of course go for the better core for the same price.Antec P182 w/ 3 Yate Loon D1SL-12
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10-05-05, 12:04 AM #14
I have an E6 X2 3800 and it is clocked at 260x10 with 166 divider running solid from what I see so far after a nice 40 minute HL2 gaming session. I paid 330 shipped for mine off ebay
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