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Well, maybe you'll see our side when DFI treats you like that too.
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Meathead said:Well, maybe you'll see our side when DFI treats you like that too.
Meathead said:nah i was lazy and didn't quote I meant soundx but you posted right before me
bnsinclair said:One of the tech support's gripes was that I didn't have the minimum specified parts for the mobo. Specifically, he didn't like my RAM (admittedly, it is Geil value RAM) nor my PSU. First the RAM, no where, and I mean no where on DFI's site does it say that you need to spend $200 on great RAM to run the board. No disclaimer what so ever. And even if I do have value ram, shouldn't it work but not as well as other brands? A Porsche arguably has a better engine than a Kia, but that doesn't mean that putting regular gas in the Porsche means it won't run! I could understand if I was trying to OC my system on value ram - that would be wrong. But the system should be stable with all ram and work wonders on expensive ram. He also attacked my PSU, which was only rated at 430W. He ridiculed me for not having a 480W. My problem with that complaint is that DFI's own manual for the board says that the min is 400W - so building it the way that I did was spec. Nonetheless, his answer to my every question was that he wouldn't help me until I brought my system into his level of "spec". What a friggin' joke. Thanks pal.
I didn't like DFI Staff pushing for OCZ PSU's as well. We all know that if an OCZ PSU blew up, it was used in conjunction with a DFI-board. Why not push for a Fortron Bluestorm AX-500A? Have any of you ever heard of a Bluestorm blowing up?Get a DFI board and learn what you can on your own. I use DFI exclusivly and yet wouldn't listen to a single word AG says. First thing that tipped me off is that I supposedlly need a 500w PSU (OCZ ... hint hint) regardless that my whole rig (now a dual-core) only draws 150-200w (measured via Kill-a-Watt) and memory on their list (there's some collaboration between them and OCZ... which I have as well.) So... as much as I like their gear, I don't trust them and nor should anyone.
This fussing and whining you speak of occurs largely due to the feedback the customer recieves from the rep. A clear conscise, yet friendly reply would do wonders. Although many avenues are available for help, people would rather visit an "OFFICIAL FORUM". So your argument of "if you don't like it...don't visit" is quite unhelpful. Some people buy DFI products because they expect on-demand support among other things. To tell them they are in safe hands and then proceed to flame them as being stupid, is a terrible thing to do!deception'' said:Having said this, why should AG pay attention to the complaints of the few when the majority have no issue? My whole point is that (a) there are better ways to get ones point across and (b) all this fussing and whining is literally falling on deaf ears.
his psu doesnt meet minimum specs
if you guys take time to read the CRITICAL sticky threads, you'd try to make sure you have the right parts to even meet minimum specs
I can tell you that the psu that came with his case is not meeting minimum specs without even getting an exact part#
that doesn't solve the issue of why 6/23 does not work and 3/10 does...but when you break the rule of:
only update your bios if the bios you are updating to fixes a specific issue that you are having
then you take your chances...everything works in 3/10 bios...but not with 6/23 bios....therefore you stick with a working bios.
there are about 20 different bioses floating around for this board...im using the 7/04-2BT bios on my NF4 Lanparties right now (never liked 6/23 myself)
I never had issues with USB devices plugged in when testing the 6/23-3 and 6/23-2 bios versions. I tried with digital camera, usb memory stick, usb2.0 hdd, usb gamepad, usb bluetooth device.
Do a search around the forums and google for the 6/23 bios causing these usb issues...you might find a hit with someone that had the exact issue you did and solved it, or you might be the only one having this issue.
Audioaficionado said:He is knowlegable but doesn't share much with "stupid idiot n00bs". They can just go and get up to speed through the stickies and seach for old posts before bothering him or his forum. At least that's my impression based on what I've seen of his posts and stickies. Good info but with that attitude.
Super Nade said:Hello mate and Welcome to the Forums!
First off, a PSU should not be compromised upon. I would gladly spend the extra $'s to get a good PSU. Now,you can pick a PSU from the B List, i.e the Fortron Bluestorm AX-500A (in my sig). You should be able to pick it up for about $80. The reason those guys are harping on a nice PSU is because this board has shown a large degree of inconsistent behaviour when overclocked, if the PSU is not good enough.
This is true with any board. You are asking for trouble if you use a crap PSU. Another aspect is the name brand following. The reason people recommend established companies over non-established ones is simple...long term reliability.
A Fortron is less likely to blow up than a no-name brand with the same specs. That, in essense what what he and ExRoadie were trying to get across, which I hope you understand, is a very fair argument. Ex-Roadie is a very knowledgable guy and usually has his facts spot on.
Ofcourse, there is always ocforums if you need any help
S-N
Super Nade said:A Fortron is less likely to blow up than a no-name brand with the same specs.
jack_dfi said:In order to deliver a better service through DFI-street.com, we will make some function change from now on.
Robert Smith aka Rgone will become the main moderator in this forum, and Travis Hill aka Angry game will be focusing on other directions such as instructional video, OC Database, and other good new functions catering to our users to provide them with even more help and information. We still welcome your comment and advice to both of them.
In addition, we will re-open the "Ask DFI" section.
Please use it to let us know if there is anything we need to improve.
This section will be reviewed by DFI management regularly.
Thank you,
Jacky