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Tankguys, any word on if this may end up including the DC opty's also? I need a 165
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You tend to contradict yourself in the above by the belowTankGuys said:You know it's funny, a big part of me didn't want to post this at all because I *knew* people would think that.
To prove otherwise though, I point out two big things:
1.) I was already out of stock when I posted it. i.e. I didn't have anything to gain by making people rush out and buy them
2.) If you go to my store, you'll see my prices are exactly the same now as they were a week ago, even on the 165's which I *do* have coming in.
Actually, I don't give much credibility to vendos in general, so if I'm quite hard on you, do forgive me. The fact that you are a member of some sort of vending firm does not help your credibility in my eyes. But this is the sort of pseudonews that tends to cause a momentary panic in the market, causing the appropriate jump in prices. One vendor is not sufficient.So please don't think I made this thread to scare people into buying... because I've not put myself in a position to gain anything from that. My entire point was that I know some people were still on the fence, and I wanted to warn you guys in case you still wanted one. That way, you may still be able to buy one from ANYWHERE while you still can.
I also repeat that I'm still not positive that this is true, I'm waiting to hear more info. I don't have any source I can cite or anything, this is just rumors I've been hearing. This wasn't privileged information I got from my AMD rep or anything for which I signed an NDA. It's entirely possible that I shouldn't have mentioned this, but I thought you would all want to know
I don't really see how some people who use the Opteron on their desktop would 'tarnish its image'--in fact, it demonstrates that AMD has produced a versatile CPU. Quite the opposite, IMO.Finally, I can see why AMD would be doing this. As many have mentioned, the Opterons are better than the A64's and yet they are cheaper... so I imagine sales of the A64 have plummeted. Yes, the enthusiast market is semi small, but you must also note that these things are sold out everywhere, meaning that there are at least enough people buying these to blow out inventory everywhere, so it can't be *that* small of a market. Finally, the Opterons are server grade chips, and it's important for AMD to maintian the great image of these chips as "server" parts, elsewise they lose some allure to the SI's. By having these chips out to the retail market, they kill thier A64 line, and tarnish the image fo the Opteron... both of which are bad ideas. You could argue that they should just raise the price of them, but let's not forget people were still happily buying the 146's for $230.
Rumors...are just that. Rumors. Quite speculative.In any case, I'm still not sure this is true so it's merely speculation at this point. I sure hope it's not true, but we'll see.
Captain Newbie said:You tend to contradict yourself in the above by the below
Captain Newbie said:Actually, I don't give much credibility to vendos in general, so if I'm quite hard on you, do forgive me.
Captain Newbie said:The fact that you are a member of some sort of vending firm does not help your credibility in my eyes.
Captain Newbie said:But this is the sort of pseudonews that tends to cause a momentary panic in the market, causing the appropriate jump in prices. One vendor is not sufficient. See also the recent Katrina/Rita oil price jump, and any time there's any speculation in the oil market, price goes up. Thus the quite skeptical eye.
Captain Newbie said:I don't really see how some people who use the Opteron on their desktop would 'tarnish its image'--in fact, it demonstrates that AMD has produced a versatile CPU. Quite the opposite, IMO.
TankGuys said:You know it's funny, a big part of me didn't want to post this at all because I *knew* people would think that.
To prove otherwise though, I point out two big things:
1.) I was already out of stock when I posted it. i.e. I didn't have anything to gain by making people rush out and buy them
2.) If you go to my store, you'll see my prices are exactly the same now as they were a week ago, even on the 165's which I *do* have coming in.
So please don't think I made this thread to scare people into buying... because I've not put myself in a position to gain anything from that. My entire point was that I know some people were still on the fence, and I wanted to warn you guys in case you still wanted one. That way, you may still be able to buy one from ANYWHERE while you still can.
I also repeat that I'm still not positive that this is true, I'm waiting to hear more info. I don't have any source I can cite or anything, this is just rumors I've been hearing. This wasn't privileged information I got from my AMD rep or anything for which I signed an NDA. It's entirely possible that I shouldn't have mentioned this, but I thought you would all want to know
Finally, I can see why AMD would be doing this. As many have mentioned, the Opterons are better than the A64's and yet they are cheaper... so I imagine sales of the A64 have plummeted. Yes, the enthusiast market is semi small, but you must also note that these things are sold out everywhere, meaning that there are at least enough people buying these to blow out inventory everywhere, so it can't be *that* small of a market. Finally, the Opterons are server grade chips, and it's important for AMD to maintian the great image of these chips as "server" parts, elsewise they lose some allure to the SI's. By having these chips out to the retail market, they kill thier A64 line, and tarnish the image fo the Opteron... both of which are bad ideas. You could argue that they should just raise the price of them, but let's not forget people were still happily buying the 146's for $230.
In any case, I'm still not sure this is true so it's merely speculation at this point. I sure hope it's not true, but we'll see.
Nathan0490 said:looks as if newegg has pulled all single core 939 socket optys from there shelves.... check it out.
stereo555 said:God , Iam still awaiting my 146 order . May cancel my 146 order and opt for a 165/170 just incase ..... (hard to do with $Christmas$ around the corner )
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